phat le rappeur
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 October 2014 23:41 (nine years ago) link
Willing to give it a pass as long as the kid doesn't put on blackface xp
― 龜, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 00:11 (nine years ago) link
i haven't seen the movie napoleon dynamite since it was released in theaters 800 blog years ago but i just thought of it for some reason and remembered that there is a part when one of the characters dates a black woman with a "black"-sounding name and this is supposed to be inherently hilarious. not a question, really. that was racist. i feel horrified that when i first saw that movie as a high school freshman i liked it.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 04:55 (nine years ago) link
borat came out around that time too i think. and team america: world police. were audiences and critics more tolerant of racial stereotypes in mainstream comedies ten years ago?
― Treeship, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 04:58 (nine years ago) link
i can assure you there was nothing hilarious about napoleon dynamite
― outback bumfuc (electricsound), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 05:07 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_th4LsV9kEboth xp and not xp
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 05:08 (nine years ago) link
were audiences and critics more tolerant of racial stereotypes in mainstream comedies ten years ago?
critics maybe
― you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 11:55 (nine years ago) link
My highschool classmates didn't care that much. I'm sure the kids there now read thinkpieces and are at least aware of terms like intersectionality if it isn't literally part of the curriculum. In my ed classes they are telling me to teach definitions of racism and sexism as interlocking sytems rather than discrete individual attitudes directly to high schoolers
― Treeship, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 12:10 (nine years ago) link
Treesh do you enjoy the comedy of Tom Green
― 龜, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 12:17 (nine years ago) link
they made the fake fat belly painted onto the t-shirt white instead of black
that's a… sign of racial sensitivity i think??
― j., Tuesday, 7 October 2014 12:19 (nine years ago) link
Probably more a reflection on their expected target demo
― 龜, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 12:28 (nine years ago) link
otm
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 13:42 (nine years ago) link
Tom Green, that's a name that really takes me back
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link
can i have that hamburger necklace however
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
hey, this is racist AND sexist:
http://flavorwire.com/480990/pete-pete-was-all-white-people-slimed-author-mathew-klickstein-on-why-ren-and-stimpy-was-better-than-clarissa-and-nickelodeons-diversity-problem
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link
re: borat, Napoleon Dynamite, Team America
All these films are horribly racist and I complained about them at the time here on ILX and people argued/disagreed w me about all of them
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link
Shakes did you ever change your mind abt ken jeong in the hangover
― 龜, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
a lot of classic "it's okay to make fun of [insert ethnicity]" excuses
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
Thinking about it now, I guess so...? It's not quite Long Duck Dong level but it is a caricature. That movie in general has diminished in my eyes.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link
I originally bought into the idea that Borat was more about revealing the societal problem of racism or sexism in others through his character and therefore was a little profound in a way, though looking back those were just side effects of a movie was that quite clearly racist
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link
Borat is almost entirely about playing off of the racism in others, is the thing. Whether it works or not is up for debate but that's pretty clearly the intention.
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
From DJP's link:
There are worlds where white guys get shit, too. I’m starting to do stand-up comedy now and it’s hard to go up there and talk about how hard it is to be a guy. People don’t wanna hear it! A girl can go up there and talk all she wants about how hard it is to be a girl, and she gets applauded. These are obviously some of my own personal views and aren’t as important, but I’m bringing up this stuff because it’s all very malleable, it’s very flexible.
Man, when are white men finally gonna get a fuckin' break?
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
Klickstein comes off like a turbo douche in that interview
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
imo the biggest crime of Borat is using Kazakhstan, an actual place, as a stand-in for the other because it was a convenient stand-in
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
well I dunno if he could've booked all those interviews or appearances or w/e using some fake country so I guess he kinda had to
― Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link
Well, OTOH, a Kazakh director made an unofficial sequel to raise the country's image and the punchline to the movie was "Hey, these guys aren't even really Kazakh, they're Jews from Romania" so . . .
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link
^^^
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
If I were Indian or Jewish, for exampleIf I were Indian or Jewish, for exampleIf I were Indian or Jewish, for exampleIf I were Indian or Jewish, for exampleIf I were Indian or Jewish, for exampleIf I were Indian or Jewish, for exampleIf I were Indian or Jewish, for example
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
and it's not that there aren't rabid anti-semites in Kazakhstan - I'm sure there are - but caricaturing them that way, the entire character of Borat, is totally racist
xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
he portrays their entire culture as backward, incestuous, nothing but poor dumb peasants etc.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link
every generation gets the Yakov Smirnoff they deserve
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link
I love how dude sets the stage by pretending that massive hit "Clarissa Explains It All" was only retroactively appreciated due to Melissa Joan Hart's star turn on "Sabrina, The Teenage Witch" and then jumps whole hog into "oh btw I'm a virulent racist too, let me show you all the ways I suck" with zero prompting
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
Wow that Pete & Pete interview went downhill rather quickly.
― pplains, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
Blah blah blah pure, fervent nostalgia blah blah blah ren and stimpy melissa joan hart blah blah blah whitewashed suburbs blah blah blah SPEAKING OF WHICH….
― pplains, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
In for a dime, in for a dollar.
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
Holy shit, wow did that interview go downhill
― Nhex, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
Like he just keeps digging the hole for himselfAt least he's being more openly racist in his nostalgia. WHITE PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE TOO, YA KNOW
― Nhex, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link
Imagining this full grown guy watching kiddie shows all day and getting mad that they have Indian characters.
― King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
Admit I got a good chuckle out of the little spiteful footnote that confirms the obvious that yes, Clarissa Explains It All was immensely popular
― Nhex, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
I'm gonna spend the rest of my day going up to Indian people and asking them if there's a reason they're Indian
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
Love the concern trolling about "sure, the character and voice actor are Indian, but why can't the producers be Indian too? Otherwise it's just racist." GREAT IDEA I'M SURE THEY'LL BE HIRING LOTS OF MINORITY DIRECTORS/PRODUCERS ANY SECOND NOW.
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
he is definitely rarin' to share his opinions
They’re doing it just for that reason: “Hey, here is the Jewish character” or “Hey, here’s the Indian character” or “Hey, here’s the token black,” which I think South Park does so amazingly well. For example, I’ve worked very closely with people with disabilities, volunteering, sometimes paid, and I love what South Park does. They show those characters as quote-unquote real people. They fight, they cuss, they take drugs. They do everything all the rest of the kids do. That’s great.
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:05 (nine years ago) link
I don't know anything about this Clarissa show, but I don't understand why the lead had to be a girl. Couldn't it have been written by men and star a boy? Seems kind of contrived.
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link
People WIth Disabilities: They Fight, They Cuss, They Take Drugs.That's Great.
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1493227/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
this guy made a docu about Kids of Whidney HighI am sure in the kindest of spirits
― King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link
I am feeling personally vindicated that a lot of my dating red flags (grownup obsessed with childhood entertainments, enjoys Kids of Whidney High) coincide with him being an odious bigot when given the chance to reveal it
― King Clone (Crabbits), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:10 (nine years ago) link
yes this was amazing
― 💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link
YESSSSS But anyway, back to Pete & Pete, the best show on television.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link
Why was it the best? I can't really tell you that, it was just genius, better than anything else. It had a certain...ineffable quality (of whiteness and maleness). But definitely the best show ever created.
― Orson Wellies (in orbit), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:34 (nine years ago) link
how the hell did you have cable tv as a kid?!?
― ⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link