(don't leave my house or shop at A1 much though.)
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link
it's died down quite a bit but go to turntable lab or hang out in soho/east village and you'll still see a few Dilla Donuts shirts between a New Era and a pair of limited sneakers of some sort.
The only really great thing I know of to come out of the posthumous "cult of dilla" is the two mixes J Rocc made. Really good, search those. They even put out an album he never finished and supposedly hated ( iirc it wasn't Stones Throw that put it out though)
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Monday, 16 March 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
only time I met a guy with one of those t-shirts he was Australian also
― Local Garda, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link
i have seen these shirts
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 16 March 2009 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link
go to la. hate your life
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Monday, 16 March 2009 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link
saddam was wearing one when he was executed actually
― Local Garda, Monday, 16 March 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
weirdest thing is how he was mainly known as Jay Dee and maybe occasionally as J Dilla but after his death the latter really caught on (maybe cause people got tired of the Jermaine Dupri confusion) and now you seem to hear just "Dilla" like people are so fanatical they can just skip straight to the most casual shorthand.
― some dad (some dude), Monday, 16 March 2009 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link
http://rlv.zcache.com/j_dilla_dilla_dawg_jay_dee_pay_jay_tshirt-p235402046239251671t5tr_400.jpg
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link
you guys on this thread got good problems. all i can say.
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link
lolz there are like four other people I think of when I hear the name "Jay D/J Dee" besides Dilla and Jermaine Dupri
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link
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"big" "pac"
― Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link
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other peoples shirts
― ice cr?m, Monday, 16 March 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link
xxxxp I think the proliferation of "Dilla" came with all the hype around Donuts because it came out right when he dies and everyone jumped all over it because of that
― autogoblin (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link
OPS
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link
YAH U KNOW ME
― ice cr?m, Monday, 16 March 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link
i like slum village btw
"apples" "oranges" rev
― some dad (some dude), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
WWJD
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
this is a weird thread
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link
says the guy whose screenname is the equivalent of a "dilla changed my life" shirt
― some dad (some dude), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link
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not really sure how so
― Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I think there really is an instinct to speak of fallen heroes in the most familiar terms possible.
― Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
i think cuz pac & big, like oranges, are waaaay wayyyy better than jay dee, like apples.
u know???
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
rev, j dilla didn't die like a gangsta, so it's ok to be all 2006 is lame and shit
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
makes sense to me lol
i meant more comparing common nicknames of huge cultural icons to a guy who was barely known by any name for his best known work in his lifetime is shaky, but i guess i invited it with the part focusing on the 'casual shorthand' part (when the term i should've emphasized would be, say, 'posthumous re-branding').
― some dad (some dude), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
cult of serge, c/d?
all these french kids. hate life.
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
btw i started this thread with great conflict in my heart because as patrin is right to note "dil cosby / dil withers suite" is not only the best beatkonducta work yet, it's also an amazing listen
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 16 March 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean when he died i just barely knew of him for Slum Village and doing Jaylib and solo stuff, really had no idea he was responsible for all these Tribe/Badu/Janet/Common/De La/Q-Tip records I knew and liked/loved and mainly associated with 'The Ummah' or 'the Soulquarians' or whatever. so i'm not hating on the guy and i understand there was a brand/name recognition issue with his work while he was still living, it's just funny how he probably would have had no idea when he passed away that 2-3 years later people would be all Dilla this, Dilla that.
― some dad (some dude), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link
why people are on his dick for the shitty Tribe albums, Labcabincalifornia, and the post-Paul De La albums is beyond me. Common? ugh fuck that guy
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost - except meJay Dee a.k.a. Dilla a.k.a. James Yancey - c/d
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Dilla tracks vs dilla tribute tracks
― H3LP, Monday, 16 March 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
i wasn't on his dick for that stuff, i'm just saying that's the stuff i know and like (and sometimes love), don't really know the underground/instrumental shit that's inspired the cult.
― some dad (some dude), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
anyone heard the orchestra tribute to dilla album?
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
dillbussy
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
I can't tell if that's a custos or real.
― Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
no there's really an album out, they performed it in la a half a month ago dunno what its called
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean when he died i just barely knew of him for (Loose Joints) and doing (Dinosaur L) and solo stuff, really had no idea he was responsible for all these (Flying Hearts)/(Necessaries) records I knew and liked/loved (..) or whatever. so i'm not hating on the guy and i understand there was a brand/name recognition issue with his work while he was still living, it's just funny how he probably would have had no idea when he passed away that 5-10 years later people would be all (Arthur Russell) this, (Arthur Russell) that.
i mean when he died i just barely knew of him for (Bryter Later) and doing (Pink Moon) and (other) stuff, (..) or whatever. so i'm not hating on the guy and i understand there was a brand/name recognition issue with his work while he was still living, it's just funny how he probably would have had no idea when he passed away that 20-30 years later people would be all (Nick Drake) this, (Nick Drake) that.
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link
I've yet to see a Nick Drake changed my life shirt.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 16 March 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
n drilla
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, March 16, 2009 6:30 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
haa yes like it emerged directly from my heart piece rip dilla
― ice cr?m, Monday, 16 March 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
shakey congrats on not liking stuff
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Alex, the cult lives WITHIN THE SELF
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
the self is supposed to, i dunno, flog itself or something for repentence of not being around to know who died after they died or something like that.
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I have no idea what you are talking about.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link
alex, i'm just trying to get all pipecock on you and i'm failing ;_;
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link
most of the dilla stans make their own lil beats at home too - theres def some steve vai style technical aspiration thing going on
― ice cr?m, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
What do Arthur Russell stans? Write books about Arthur Russell?
― Alex in SF, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link
stans do, ahem
actually, start here, and then go hereThe Sa Ra Creative Partners Thread, finally...
― jaxon, Friday, 5 March 2010 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link
*there*
― jaxon, Friday, 5 March 2010 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Cult is dud, Jay D is pretty classic (though a bit of a mixed bag). This is one of those things that I'm grateful that my brother was super into backpack shit in SE Michigan, so he knew Jay D (mostly through the Subterraneous crew and Slum Village folks), and I got to meet him a couple of times. He was a pretty chill guy, but "Dilla Changed My Life"? Not so much.
― 'Bout time to change the display name to something clever (I eat cannibals), Friday, 5 March 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
ya i've read and loved the pretentious rn'b thread, but i think this is something at least slightly different; i'm really thinking hip hop and slow head-nod instrumental hip hop. i read a rap review a while ago where the writer said something to the extent of "the production is refreshing in an era where every undie rap producer just recycles old dilla beats" and i thought 'hey i wouldn't mind it if everyone sounded like that.' thing is i just haven't heard enough it, and so far am not convinced that so much of it exists.
― samosa gibreel, Friday, 5 March 2010 03:34 (fourteen years ago) link
ok yes sa-ra is exactly what i was talking about, thank you.
― samosa gibreel, Friday, 5 March 2010 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZZZ_SG-boE
― PappaWheelie V, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link
that was pretty great
― jaxon, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Dilla's Donuts began simply enough, in summer 2005, as an idea to turn a particularly good demo beat tape into a full-length release. We think we can safely say it has since became a classic hip-hop album, one of the defining works of the artist's life. This box set includes the album on seven 45s and a bonus 45 with "Signs" from the long out-of-print Donuts 'Fan Club 45' b/w DOOM & Ghostface's "Sniper Elite & Murder Goons" - two tracks over Donuts beats which were recorded in late 2005 prior to the original release of the album. These two tracks were released digitally in 2008, but have never before appeared on vinyl. Side D contains the "Donuts Outro/Intro" appearing as an interlude at the beginning of "The Diff'rence" which dates back to the first, original sequence of the album.
groan
― the late great, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
I love Donuts, classic chillwave
― brimstead, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
classic
― the late great, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
This box set includes the album on seven 45s
why do they do this? who buys these?
― flopson, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
soulstrut is tumbleweeds right now b/c the entire board is running to the record store
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 14 January 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
i dont know but apparently already sold out pretty much everywhere already, though i suppose at $40 it works out to only $5/disc so i guess not total robbery
― the late great, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
I was just going to do a donuts poll yesterday
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
the cult is 'annoying' but more annoying is being broke, having ants in my kitchen & not getting a call back from a chick i like
sometimes ppl around here are way too subculturally butthurtwahhh nerds are corny
― ridin down the yellow brick road in the yellow 6-4 (deej), Monday, March 16, 2009 5:17 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
all of those problems have been solved but the dilla cult still exists
mea culpa
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
this really is an amazing time capsule thread, can't believe velko posted in it
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
tbh madlib changed my life
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 @jrocc that beat isn't from a 1 thru 5 batch, it's from "another batch" 1998.
Waajeed AKA Jeedo @Jeedo47@kylebeats @jrocc I don't really give a shit to honest.
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 @jrocc to each his own.
Waajeed AKA Jeedo @Jeedo47@kylebeats No it's not to each his own. That's the problem. There are facts to this and dudes be freestyling like they know what it is.
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 i know, that's my point. I'm a stickler for facts and details.
Waajeed AKA Jeedo @Jeedo47@kylebeats What facts? Did you get a beat tape from Dilla?
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 are you confusing me with someone you don't know?
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 and why attack me for correcting an obvious mistake? who doesn't know that's 98?
Waajeed AKA Jeedo @Jeedo47More and more annoyed by you so called "Dilla Heads" You really don't have a fuckin clue which I did B47 Breaks in the 1st place.
― Andy K, Monday, 14 January 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
ha awesome
― The Reverend, Monday, 14 January 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
wow this thread all over the place
anyways would have been 45 today rip beat maker
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
this was very touchinghttps://www.instagram.com/tv/CZebNF9hQvt/?utm_medium=copy_link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:40 (two years ago) link
There's a new book too:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/01/arts/music/j-dilla-time-book.html
Charnas also clarifies the story around “Donuts,” an instrumental album that Stones Throw Records released right before Dilla’s death that has become a key entry point for new generations of fans. It’s been said that Dilla recorded “Donuts” in the hospital, embedding messages for loved ones in his compositions as the end approached. In reality, “Donuts” was born from one of the many beat tapes he had made. It was largely edited and extended by Jeff Jank, who worked at Stones Throw, and completed months before Dilla died.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:48 (two years ago) link
Just picked up the book yesterday, though I haven't started it. Looks fantastic and there seem to be a lot of beat diagrams sprinkled throughout. Can't wait to dig in, though I've already got two fellow ilxors books on the "next to read" pile first.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 21:22 (two years ago) link
Charnas' book was really good, I appreciated the mix of biography and deeper dive into how he put the beats together.
Listening to the Welcome 2 Detroit Instrumentals this morning and it sounds really good.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link
Just starting Dilla Time now, hells of excited to immerse myself in it.
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link
Yeah, some of the music theory stuff can be a little "extra" but Charnas is a gripping and thorough storyteller. Book is great.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link
I'd like to read it, but I feel like if I ever hear read anyone going on about Dilla's unquantized drum programming feel, it will be too soon.
I think even Questlove, who was of course a primary evangelist, said recently that the way Dilla constructed musical parts out of micro-sampling (single notes, tiny sounds) has been overlooked compared to the drums stuff.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
im trying to start my own cult of quik
― zzz (deej), Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:29 PM (thirteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
this worked kinda
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link
I need to read the charnas book
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link