bill simmons IS bill simmons IN the book of BASKETBALL

In some quarters, there's skepticism that Simmons is worth so much money. ESPN executives apparently gripe that Simmons' pet project brands on the web — Grantland and FiveThirtyEight — aren't doing very well.
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Grantland has been pretty weak lately - with the redesign they seem to put out a lot less content than Deadspin.

When did the guy from Rancid take over AOL?

Grantland has been pretty weak lately - with the redesign they seem to put out a lot less content than Deadspin.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, October 5, 2014 4:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

After a crazy weekend of playoff baseball, there were two baseball stories up on the front page today. There's an entire 2014-2015 NBA preview section.

yes but baseball is a terrible sport

in depth preview is kinda more their steez than game recaps tho, but yeah you would think they couldve come up w some #longform way to explore the baseball playoffs, also may just be a lil lag after the weekend in the baseball coverage

baseball is already longform enough #americaslasttime

lol true

well they'll def have a big thing from rany about the royals up today but there's no way he could've turned it around in time for this morning

I wish GL was just NBA articles, TBH. Actually, just Zach Lowe.

And Molly Lambert

ya grantland for me is 90% zach lowe, i keep a bookmark to his author page, but they have some other cool stuff sometimes too

wesley morris is pretty cool, read him in the boston globe for years

ya hes good

Jonathan Abrams features are almost uniformly incredible

Zach Lowe is an incredible perpetual machine of NBA analysis but I am already kind of tired of his writing this season, feel like he needs to son of bazerk CHANGE THE STYLE a lil bit but then again when he tried to fit into the grantland pop culture reference style early on it veered dangerously into poochie on a skateboard territory

yeah wld prefer if he just honed it down a lil

also hes kinda boring rn prob because were in the very boring part of the offseason

He def recovered once he embraced his inner basketball shut-in but it's funny when he comes back from a vacation suddenly armed with four year old breaking bad references

Yeah I kinda think they could have just let him write less abt some minor contracts instead of having to pad the last months worth with three intro grafs abt the upcoming TV deal and rising cap

Kinda like the entire entertainment press wasted thousands upon thousands of words chinscratching abt a crouching tiger sequel no one gives abt

ya we really dont need all these hot takes

it's like w/the internet and media moving faster, instead of at the end of the day the big stories being written for the following day's paper, now all day long you see new stories popping up on websites every fifteen minutes that fifteen minutes later are completely forgotten.

lowe is at times the best basketball writer we have and at others the most unreadable. he's just unbearably square

no love for bill barnwell?

eh what is there to say about football really, it's a watching sport

barnwell is terrible

http://nytimes.com/2014/10/15/sports/bill-simmonss-return-sets-intrigue-in-motion-at-espn.html

“Knowing what I know now,” Lerer said, “I think he should say: ‘I had a breakdown, I didn’t mean what I said. I’m back at ESPN and I love it.’ ”

lol otm

I am not partial to Simmons but if Grantland goes the way Sports on Earth just did I'll be very disappointed.

VIEWING ALERT!!!!! At 7 p.m. ET on Thursday (10/23), The Grantland Basketball Hour makes its triumphant debut on ESPN. Your hosts? Bill Simmons and Jalen Rose, who will be joined by Jeff Van Gundy, Doc Rivers, Michelle Beadle, and Zach Lowe

o gosh

I am definitely watching that and hating it

wait, what is doc doing there. he has a job

@BillSimmons
If Ned Yost had managed the Red Sox during the Pedro era, I'd be living in an insane asylum right now.

whatever, nba dude

not to mention grady little managed them for much of the pedro era and he put people in an insane asylum

for sure ned is not any worse than grady was

i had to go to the insane asylum more than once cause of that guy

http://sportingnews.com/article/4622943-bill-simmons-mike-and-mike-lebron-james-albert-pujols-grantland-espn-colin-cowherd

rip

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2014-11-06/bill-simmons-mike-and-mike-lebron-james-albert-pujols-grantland-espn-colin-cowherd?eadid=SOC/Twi/SNMain

trying that again

hoo boy

mad dad

he must really want out idk

dude would never last on the goon thread

can't believe anyone on earth could care about anything mike and mike says even if it's about them

big overlap in audiences tho which is i imagine the important part to bill and his desire to be hero worshiped by his base. there is a venn diagram i don't want to spend any time in the middle of.

not sure mike&mike have an audience

bill's just pissed that he always got in trouble for bashing other espn talent

ya prob

he shd go work for an actual journalistic entity that will worship him for the media star he is instead of for espn who make all their money broadcasting sporting events

like hes the most popular sports writer in the country but he will always mean less to espn than some rando college football game

on the other hand they pay him a shit load of money and let him have his own website documentary series and tv show

prob just stay on espn and stop being such a baby idk