rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

also, i wanted to bring this up: nazis eugenics hitler

T/S: Giant vat of sperm or the goop gun

goop gun just like taco bell

I do remember that clinics would regularly advertise in the newspapers around yale that they were looking for women who were willing to donate their eggs; Ivy League eggs carry a premium I think

The compensation was in the tens of thousands of dollars but someone told me that considering all the trouble / potential for complications of the egg donation process it ends up being a terrible bargain for the donor

Also remember reading a story about how clinics are refusing to accept donations from gingers because they are overloaded w ginger sperm and i guess nobody wants a ginger child?

BUT i do think you should be required by law to get inseminated at random.

― flatizza (harbl), Friday, October 3, 2014 1:19 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

What, like everyone?

xp disgraceful

Also remember reading a story about how clinics are refusing to accept donations from gingers because they are overloaded w ginger sperm and i guess nobody wants a ginger child?

people still using the word "ginger"?

only for things that are ginger

You must be a ginger xp

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/hurt-dave-seeing-red-697081

proceed gingerly

Shameful article xp

Didn't even include a picture so we could have a look for ourselves

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Clubs/Club%20Home/2009/3/12/1236897828691/Dave-Kitson-001.jpg

looks like a hot head.

i can see why he's getting all fired up.

I feel like red-haired people generally underrated and non-red haired people who try for red are overrated

this is the thread where I out my ginger-haired woman interests

ROLLING DAVE KITSON THREAD

Handsome but sounds like a right pain in the ass.

― Laurel, Monday, January 28, 2008 5:32 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Er. What was the question again?

― Laurel, Monday, January 28, 2008 5:32 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

vmic btw

:)

ROLLING DAVE KITSON THREAD

― zero content albums (darraghmac), Thursday, October 2, 2014 8:52 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well of course there's a thred about that.

Why isn't is ROILING DAVE KITSON THREAD?

TROLLING DAVE KITSON, RED

this is a key moment in ilx us-uk relations

nobody fuck this up

You must be a ginger xp

― 龜, Thursday, October 2, 2014 9:40 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Actually I'm a Gilligan.

BUT i do think you should be required by law to get inseminated at random.

Seeing as how people don't pick their sexual partners at random, but look for traits they find attractive, it feels a bit arbitrary to suggest that those who have to seek alternative methods of insemination should be forced to spin a big wheel. that only folks engaging in "traditional" insemination should have any authority over what genes they put inside themselves.

unless you're saying that NO ONE should get to pick their partner in procreation - in which case, good luck with that sci-fi shit

Brave New Spigot

Logan's Cum

rah

dysfallopian

xpost to harbl

yeah for this to be actual medical ~malpractice~ there has to be substantive harm, it may not be enough that an obvious (but totally benign) mistake was made

hence making the case that the "harm" is inherent to being a biracial kid in garbagetown USA

but like if the goal is just to shutter an incompetent sperm bank (and not to recoup losses that basically don't exist) then there are other ways to go about it I'd think

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omg rolling dave kitson might be my fave britisher thread, what a day

xpost to harbl

yeah for this to be actual medical ~malpractice~ there has to be substantive harm, it may not be enough that an obvious (but totally benign) mistake was made

― gbx, Friday, October 3, 2014 7:00 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hence making the case that the "harm" is inherent to being a biracial kid in garbagetown USA

but like if the goal is just to shutter an incompetent sperm bank (and not to recoup losses that basically don't exist) then there are other ways to go about it I'd think

― gbx, Friday, October 3, 2014 7:04 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree that the "wrongful birth" cause of action is probably a huge stretch, but there's also a breach of warranty claim, which is sort of interesting. If you go to a sperm bank that gives you the option of choosing donor traits, are you entitled to "get what you paid for"? I think you probably should be. I mean when you physically mate with someone, you have that option, even with racist motivations, so I don't really think sperm banks should function differently. What the appropriate compensation would be I have no fucking idea.

lol HL

it may not be enough that an obvious (but totally benign) mistake was made

I'm not...I don't want to argue at all with the racism call. But impregnating someone with sperm they didn't volunteer to get pregnant by is a lot closer to rape than anyone seems to be acknowledging. It's non-consensual impregnation. It's horrifying.

Imo to make light of that issue is to also condone other ways of taking control of their own fertility away from women.

this is prob glib but i have trouble thinking thru this cos the scenario of "lesbian couple in rural ohio delivers biracial child from sperm bank mixup" is giving me really insane "we live in a shitty david mamet play" vibes

xp Or I mean not explicitly CONDONE them but the logic of it also supports other invasions. Oh, she wanted a baby, she got a baby, she'll be happy once her (natural, feminine) maternal instinct kicks in. Mothers always love their children, and if not they're bad mothers and bad women, and it's their own fault. It's nothing WE did, we just gave her a baby (that her own body nourished and made space for and gave life to).

laurel otm

We support the right of women to choose whose baby they have when they know who the father is, and the checklist of traits in a sperm bank is basically the best proxy we have for that when they never actually meet/know the father. And imo those traits should include anything a woman wants to consider, even if it's race.

No, I think they're two separate problems--like Dan said, it would be best if they won this case for the precedent but weren't rewarded for singling out race as the key argument.

are they really gonna bring the race argument into court cuz that just seems stupid and unnecessary

Probably. The gas costs of traveling to a hair salon in a black neighborhood really add up.

i was really surprised to hear that they were only seeking $50k....?

How do you argue this without race? Like how would you show that it wasn't the donor she wanted? Not being rhetorical - is there other evidence that she got a different donor than she wanted?

I admit I dunno how these places really work but I would assume they picked a specific donor and that not getting that donor's sperm is all that matters

Not being rhetorical - is there other evidence that she got a different donor than she wanted?

from the chicago tribune article

After searching through pages of comprehensive histories for their top three donors, the lawsuit claims, Cramblett and her domestic partner, Amanda Zinkon, chose donor No. 380, who was also white. Their doctor in Ohio received vials from donor No. 330, who is African-American, the lawsuit said.

Cramblett, 36, learned of the mistake in April 2012, when she was pregnant and ordering more vials so that the couple could have another child with sperm from the same donor, according to the lawsuit. The sperm bank delivered vials from the correct donor in August 2011, but Cramblett later requested more vials, according to the suit.

Ah yeah, that seems kind of obvious now. Brainfart.

I agree that if I were her lawyer, the last thing I'd probably want to do is come into court saying "My client doesn't want a black child."