outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

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this is a very difficult article to read

apparently the problem is not money but organization and time

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:27 (five years ago) link

Oh jeez:


at what point is it ok for me to start panicking?

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:39 (five years ago) link

supposed to go to the state fair this weekend and have resolved not to touch any surfaces and to bathe myself in hand sanitizer after it is all over.

i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:43 (five years ago) link

the panic is hilarious. Especially from folks who drive on the streets of Dallas. You should be much more afraid of north Texas drivers than ebola.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:04 (five years ago) link

until there is an effective vaccine I consider ebola as a threat, but in the USA it is a long term threat, which gives the researchers plenty of time to develop that vaccine.

Aimless, Thursday, 2 October 2014 16:18 (five years ago) link

truly despicable imo for rand paul, a physician, to be saying things like this to score political points


k3vin k., Thursday, 2 October 2014 17:56 (five years ago) link


this is a very difficult article to read

apparently the problem is not money but organization and time

― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, October 1, 2014 7:27 PM (Yesterday

disorganization and lack of preparedness (not to mention distrust of medical authorities, belief in traditional healing, etc) are consequences of poverty, though. this was from a few weeks ago but i think it's a good primer


First, Guinea, Sierra Leone, and Liberia are resource-poor countries already coping with major health challenges, such as malaria and other endemic diseases, some of which may be confused with EVD. Next, their borders are porous, and movement between countries is constant. Health care infrastructure is inadequate, and health workers and essential supplies including personal protective equipment are scarce. Traditional practices, such as bathing of corpses before burial, have facilitated transmission. The epidemic has spread to cities, which complicates tracing of contacts. Finally, decades of conflict have left the populations distrustful of governing officials and authority figures such as health professionals. Add to these problems a rapidly spreading virus with a high mortality rate, and the scope of the challenge becomes clear

k3vin k., Thursday, 2 October 2014 18:08 (five years ago) link

rand paul, a physician

He's an ophthalmologist without board certification so this is something of a stretch, but yeah obv his statements are fear mongering nonsense.

does anyone know what's the hard libertarian faithful take on institutions like the cdc?

Nowitzki Shrugged (Clay), Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:24 (five years ago) link

viruses are information that wants to be free?

chemical aioli (Hunt3r), Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:55 (five years ago) link

It seems to be under control in Nigeria! Good news!

Slate: Spread of Ebola Appears to Have Been Stopped in Nigeria

Meanwhile, local health workers paid 18,500 face-to-face visits to repeatedly take the temperatures of nearly 900 people who had contact with them. The last confirmed case was detected on Aug. 31, and virtually all contacts have passed the 21-day incubation period without falling ill.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:58 (five years ago) link

wow, don't think i knew about paul's board certification controversy before this, that's pretty messed up. at any rate tho he's still a physician and should know better

k3vin k., Thursday, 2 October 2014 20:08 (five years ago) link

meanwhile in dallas officials seem to be handling things well

the late great, Friday, 3 October 2014 07:53 (five years ago) link

from cnn.com

Cleanup delayed
As concerns grow over how many people he may have exposed to the deadly virus, a plan to sanitize the apartment was delayed late Thursday.
Brad Smith of the Cleaning Guys, the company hired to sanitize the apartment, said they do not have the proper permits to transport hazardous waste on Texas highways.
Smith said authorities sent them away late Thursday before they entered the apartment and told them to come back with proper permits. It's unclear how long that will take.
"The permit is being processed through DOT (Department of Transportation) because it is a special permit," Smith said.
"This is a unique situation. Once awarded our hazmat teams will be allowed back inside to do their jobs."

the late great, Friday, 3 October 2014 07:54 (five years ago) link

CNN: Dr. Irwin Redlener, a professor at Columbia University's school of public health, called the handling of the quarantine "hair raising."

the late great, Friday, 3 October 2014 08:06 (five years ago) link

<3 cnn.com

the late great, Friday, 3 October 2014 08:06 (five years ago) link


i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 3 October 2014 21:26 (five years ago) link


Aimless, Friday, 3 October 2014 21:52 (five years ago) link

Let me know when DC ebola fatalities exceeds http://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-fatalities

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Friday, 3 October 2014 22:12 (five years ago) link

RIP Thomas Eric Duncan

, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:43 (five years ago) link

My office sent out an Ebola advisory note to everyone today advising that we don't travel to countries with outbreaks. Thanks for the tip guys! I guess I should reconsider that vacation to Liberia.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:46 (five years ago) link



mookieproof, Friday, 10 October 2014 03:20 (five years ago) link

I mean, ebola is transmitted through fluid contact, so it might, or it might just make you a prepper

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Friday, 10 October 2014 03:32 (five years ago) link

How long can ebola just hang out on surfaces and remain contagious?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 October 2014 13:59 (five years ago) link

Also, have any of the usual right wing subjects started calling him Barack Ebola?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 October 2014 14:02 (five years ago) link


mookieproof, Friday, 10 October 2014 14:42 (five years ago) link


example (crüt), Friday, 10 October 2014 14:53 (five years ago) link


k3vin k., Sunday, 12 October 2014 19:29 (five years ago) link

Are ebola patients always protected by dancing police officers?


StanM, Sunday, 12 October 2014 20:29 (five years ago) link

that's like a mile from where i used to live. ebola pls

i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Sunday, 12 October 2014 21:29 (five years ago) link

Plane grounded at lax for over two hours now bc a passenger is displaying flu-like symptoms and has had contact w someone from Africa. A twitter user @gingerhazing is one of those stuck on the plane and is livetweeting it

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 12 October 2014 22:59 (five years ago) link

twitter user and up and comic comics artist! Not to diminish her ebola paranoia liveblogging contributions

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Monday, 13 October 2014 00:01 (five years ago) link

Yes after posting that I swiped left on her profile and found that out. lol at how out of touch with my own field I am.

All clear I guess-- moral: do not barf in public if you or people around you have anywhere you need to be anytime soon

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Monday, 13 October 2014 00:04 (five years ago) link

boy, do some people really mistrust the federal government

the late great, Monday, 13 October 2014 00:11 (five years ago) link

and/or racist

stop me if you've heard this one

"they're doing it on purpose to seize power during a crisis"

or this one

"obama's endangering american lives because he identifies with africans more than americans"

the late great, Monday, 13 October 2014 00:16 (five years ago) link


i wonder if someone at the hospital didn't follow protocol, or if the protocols were lacking. either way: scary. feel terrible for the nurse.

I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 13 October 2014 01:17 (five years ago) link

the hospital claims she was, but they've been pretty disgustingly dishonest about a few things already so it's hard to take their word for it. i think i read something earlier today that said the CDC was disputing that this was the case. (and not to get too realpolitik, but i found it pretty shocking that the CDC would call out the hospital like that so quickly.)

that said it should be understood that caring for patients with ebola is not risk-free and that adherence to guidelines minimizes the risks of transmission but does not eliminate them. viruses are small and can thwart event the best-laid plans. even removing protective gear can be hazardous -- in fact it's thought that this is where a large part of the danger lies, in exposing oneself while taking off contaminated PPE

k3vin k., Monday, 13 October 2014 01:33 (five years ago) link

@gingerhazing says it turns out it was just a scare, passenger does not have ebola symptoms other than vomiting, did not actually have contact with anyone from west africa just someone from south africa (miscommunication).

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 13 October 2014 02:06 (five years ago) link

I was actually pondering how these workers can safely remove the suits, because whenever I use cleaning gloves I puzzle over how to take them off without just getting the same bleach on me that I was trying to avoid all along. Do they take some kind of shower in the gear first?

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 13 October 2014 02:07 (five years ago) link

iirc they spray the suits down with bleach solution before they take them off. and i think the way they take off the gloves and booties is to peel them off by rolling them inside out from the ends. there's probably some similar principle in how they get the suits off.

the late great, Monday, 13 October 2014 02:12 (five years ago) link



the late great, Monday, 13 October 2014 02:13 (five years ago) link


k3vin k., Monday, 13 October 2014 02:14 (five years ago) link

the thing with these things is that adherence is crucial to minimizing risk, but in practice it's just not realistic. there will be lapses. it's incredibly fatiguing to do over and over, and humans will make mistakes, even if their lives and the lives of their patients depend on doing it right

k3vin k., Monday, 13 October 2014 02:18 (five years ago) link

cf The Checklist Manifesto

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Monday, 13 October 2014 02:23 (five years ago) link

Though I don't doubt that the people treating the ebola patient used every tool available to minimize their exposure risk.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Monday, 13 October 2014 02:29 (five years ago) link

read today the number of new cases could reach 10k/week by december

that's pretty scary

the late great, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:00 (five years ago) link

Guess what? Another asshole head of state is implicated.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 00:18 (nine hours ago) link

BREAKING: Dozens of Florida hospitals have no available intensive care units, according according to data released Tuesday afternoon by the state. ICU beds are at capacity at 54 hospitals across 25 counties and 30 hospitals reported that their units were more than 90% full.

— Daniel Uhlfelder (@DWUhlfelderLaw) July 7, 2020

stet, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:03 (nine hours ago) link

really would like to know which ones, esp with my father....

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:05 (nine hours ago) link

ahh great, that includes Orlando. well, hopefully nobody I know catches a disease, gets in a car wreck, or gets shot

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:10 (eight hours ago) link

I am livid over this, not that I didn't know the hospital shortage was getting worse, but there are literally TWO fucking ICU beds in the county my fucking parents live in right now. and while this is happening, smug assholes are telling my teacher friends that if they don't want to return to work, they should find new jobs.

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:28 (eight hours ago) link

Every news bulletin has a public health expert on saying masks are a good idea. Can we get a mask order for Victoria? can we fuck.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 09:28 (thirty-nine minutes ago) link

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