that seems like a pretty apples/oranges comparison. a ridiculous Cage movie is not a ridiculous Shyamalan movie is not a etc.
― some dad (some dude), Monday, 16 March 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link
The Happening 2: Knowing
― DavidM, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
ST had ambition. This has sprocket holes.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
is 11/07/2000 was one of the dates?
― now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Monday, 16 March 2009 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm sure Richard Kelly was attached to this after Donnie Darko. His version also had a time capsule but it was meant to be all about the kids' drawings of major disasters rather than numbers. Still potentially terrible but not as blah-looking as this.
Nic Cage's argument defence for this kind of thing used to be one-for-the-art, one-for-the-money but I don't know what's happened to one-for-the-art since Lord of War.
― Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 16 March 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
has Proyas' Dark City cred finally run out then?
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Monday, 16 March 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
[that seems like a pretty apples/oranges comparison. a ridiculous Cage movie is not a ridiculous Shyamalan movie is not a etc.
Richard Kelly involved in both apples and oranges
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 March 2009 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link
this is definitely closer to shyamalan than southland tales territory. very different kinds of failures.
no seriously i LOLed several times in the theatre. it's unbelievable. it feels like it was financed by a church group.
― s1ocki, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link
dark city cred? what are you people, roger ebert?
― da croupier, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link
oh wait there's only one poster who keeps bringing up the glory of dark city, nevermind
― da croupier, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link
haha dark city was pretty bad but at least it had some kind of thing going on... this is so hackish on every single level... such a transparent biblical allegory (no spoilers but holy shit you will LOL when you see what i mean)... i mean i thought i, robot was a turd but this takes the prize.
― s1ocki, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link
so where does this rank amongst previous nic cage wtf films?
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link
my bad, it never occurred to me for a second that Richard Kelly would've been attached to a $50mil budget Nic Cage movie.
― some dad (some dude), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link
As someone who sat thru Next I'm not sure the drug has been synthesized that cd willingly get me thru this one.
― Last Exit to Steve Brookstein (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Even if he saves the world, nic cage will still look miserable. He reminds me of Droopy.
― jel --, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Still, yeah, I'll see this film. Oh look the numbers have been drawn to look like a DNA helix...
― jel --, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
the really important question here
― filipino wilson (jeff), Monday, 16 March 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Hopefully up there with Wicker Man.
― jel --, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link
just below wicker man.
― s1ocki, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link
I recently rewatched that and it was still a barrel of laughs, holds up well
― da croupier, Monday, 16 March 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Cage Takes Up Hang Gliding
17 March 2009 12:10 PM, PDT
Nicolas Cage is planning a break from acting to pursue a more extreme pastime - as a licensed hang gliding pilot.
The Leaving Las Vegas star is entranced by the idea of soaring through the air with a pair of his own wings.
And he's looking for a break between films so he can travel to the Swiss Alps, where the actor has learned he can become certified to fly in just two weeks.
He says, "It's probably one of the most beautiful things a man can do. You're just soaring in the sky like an eagle... It's less dangerous now. They say it's not as bad as racing cars and it's probably no more dangerous than riding a bicycle, so I'm ready to get my pilots license."
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
"ive already accomplished everything i want to in the world of absurd movies. now im looking for a ridiculous way to die."
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link
http://monroelab.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/Daedalus-and-icarus.jpg
― da croupier, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
lolebert
"Knowing" is among the best science-fiction films I've seen -- frightening, suspenseful, intelligent and, when it needs to be, rather awesome.
Still love the guy, but don't believe him.
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Thursday, 19 March 2009 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link
more like BL0W1NG
― eman, Monday, 23 March 2009 04:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I just saw a thing about Nick Cage, in which he's talking about how his remake of "The Wicker Man" is so horrifying that people will have nightmares for weeks afterwards and how it's a zillion times better than the original. So he's a big fucking liar. I hate the fucker, he's a crap one-dimensional actor who's (at best) fair at picking "big" movies (the National Treasure crap, for instance) and hasn't had a good role in years. And looking back, those seemed a matter of luck more than anything. Plus, he's pig ugly. Fuck him.
― deedeedeextrovert, Monday, 23 March 2009 04:50 (fifteen years ago) link
The Dance (2010) (announced) .... Billy 'The Kid' Roth The Sorcerer's Apprentice (2010) (filming) .... Balthazar Blake Season of the Witch (2010) (filming) .... Lavey Astro Boy (2009) (post-production) (voice) .... Dr. Tenma G-Force (2009) (post-production) (voice) .... Speckles Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans (2009) (post-production) Kick-Ass (2009) (post-production) .... Damon Macready
― kingfish, Monday, 23 March 2009 04:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Nicolas Cage ... Speckles (voice) Penélope Cruz ... Juarez (voice) Bill Nighy Sam Rockwell ... Darwin (voice) Steve Buscemi ... Bucky (voice) Will Arnett Tracy Morgan ... Blaster (voice) Zach Galifianakis ... Ben Kelli Garner ... Marcie Tyler Patrick Jones ... Connor Mini Anden ... Christa Niecy Nash ... Rosalita
― kingfish, Monday, 23 March 2009 05:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Release Date:16 July 2010 (USA) more Genre:Drama | Fantasy more Plot:A sorcerer (Cage) leaves his workshop in the hands of his apprentice (Baruchel), who gets into trouble when the broomstick he's tasked to do his chores for him somehow develops a mind of its own. | add synopsis
― kingfish, Monday, 23 March 2009 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Release Date:2010 (USA) more Genre:Drama | Sport Plot:A dramatization of the life of one-time champion prize fighter Billy "The Kid" Roth, who has volunteered as a boxing coach for over 40 years in the prisons of Louisiana. | add synopsis
Nicolas Cage ... Billy 'The Kid' Roth 50 Cent
more
― kingfish, Monday, 23 March 2009 05:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Dave Lizewski is an unnoticed high school student and comic book fan who one day decides to become a super-hero, even though he has no powers, training or meaningful reason to do so
― kingfish, Monday, 23 March 2009 05:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Season of the Witch (2010) (filming) .... Lavey
wtfffffffff remake of halloween 3??
― eman, Monday, 23 March 2009 05:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I am actually curious about "Kick-Ass" and excited about the Herzog-directed "Bad Lieutenant."
This, however, s1ock is dead-on abbout - it is awful bible-thumping bullshit, and worse, it's boring. I'll give Proyas this, though: the man can stage an action sequence.
Anyone else notice that Richard Kelly has a writing credit on this?
― Simon H., Monday, 23 March 2009 05:08 (fifteen years ago) link
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090221133114AAES3Wz
― eman, Monday, 23 March 2009 05:10 (fifteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know1ng
Initially believing that the last event will kill only 33, John eventually re-examines the numbers. He discovers that the final digits are not "33", but actually "EE" written backwards, and the upcoming event is a massive solar flare that will kill "Everyone Else."
― aaron d.g., Monday, 23 March 2009 05:16 (fifteen years ago) link
everyone else cummings
― eman, Monday, 23 March 2009 05:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I guess I'm the only person in the world who saw Garage Days
― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 23 March 2009 07:02 (fifteen years ago) link
― eman, Monday, March 23, 2009 5:18 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
<3
― 20 HOOS poppin steens on kawasakis (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 23 March 2009 07:05 (fifteen years ago) link
that's pretty creative as far as porno knockoff titles go
― i stole a metal dude's t-shirt in richmond just to watch him cry (latebloomer), Monday, 23 March 2009 07:24 (fifteen years ago) link
saw it too, elvis. not very good, but i imagine a damn sight better than this.
xxpost
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Monday, 23 March 2009 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link
oh my god guys this movie!
― he sounded italian enough to give me something (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Monday, 23 March 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I just saw a thing about Nick Cage, in which he's talking about how his remake of "The Wicker Man" is so horrifying that people will have nightmares for weeks afterwards and how it's a zillion times better than the original. So he's a big fucking liar.
I don't think he's a liar, he's just completely insane.
― Event Horizon (Nicole), Monday, 23 March 2009 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link
That's why the whisperers didn't save him.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 23 March 2009 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link
"Only SANE people get to ride on the wheel."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 March 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
seriously, i mean...i would put this in the same league as the happening or butterfly effect.
― he sounded italian enough to give me something (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Monday, 23 March 2009 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link
thee league of why would you see any of these?
― Past a Diving Jeter (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 March 2009 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link
If Nicolas Cage's fetus doesn't commit suicide at the end of the Knowing, it cannot be in the same league as the Butterfly Effect.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 23 March 2009 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe that'll be in Knowing: The Director's Cut.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 23 March 2009 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link
ok SPOILERS:
FETUS SUICIDE V THE APOCOLYPSE?
― he sounded italian enough to give me something (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Monday, 23 March 2009 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Look seriously how can a movie which ends up concluding that world is a better place without Ashton Kutcher be all bad? I admit the idea of Nicolas Cage being incinerated has promise, but do we all have to die too?
― Alex in SF, Monday, 23 March 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link
(xx-post)
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 August 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Beauregard sounds like a name for an alien that needs punchin' ha!
They didn't predict the disasters, they made them happen, probably as a training exercise for the big one at the end.The sensitivity to the numbers means these are humans who are compatible with alien DNA or something. This is just a snippet ofalien radio they are able to pickup -- the kids get other messages, too, it's just that the movie is focused on this security leak.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 24 August 2009 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
"They didn't predict the disasters, they made them happen"
you making that up!
― bnw, Monday, 24 August 2009 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, there's nothing in the movie to suggest they caused any of the accidents, they simply seemed to have an incredibly accurate way of predicting the future.
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 August 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah but but but all of these very specific dominos fell into place just for him -- a guy who actually wrote a paper about solar flares! -- to figure this stuff out. So either the movie is saying the universe is very deterministic and set all this stuff up, or the universe is so random that it set up this incredibly unlikely sequence of events that just happened to really screw with this one professor's head and make him think there was a big plan for the universe and not just some aliens that can see the future?
― you just geek'd up our director of D4Ls (some dude), Monday, 24 August 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link
It seems many of you thought the movie had some sort of Christian message because of the aliens' somewhat angelic apperance and because of the final scene, but I though it was the other way around: I interpreted it that the aliens had visited Earth before in ancient times, but back the people didn't know what to think of them, so they thought the aliens were angels (or gods or whatever), and remnants of their apperance had been kept alive in myths. So it's like in Erich von Däniken's "ancient astronauts" theory. Maybe the aliens had even tried to inform the ancient people about the coming destruction, but those people didn't quite get it, so they turned the predictions into various myths about the end of the world/apocalypse.
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 August 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
but it fits so perfectly! the numbers are just timestamps of covert ops.
it's an oblique hint, but it's there in the movie.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 24 August 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think the theme or message was Christian or spiritual at all, really, but the ending had a Noah's ark theme and the main character reconciling with his father who's a reverend, so I can't say people talking about that angle are just making it up.
― you just geek'd up our director of D4Ls (some dude), Monday, 24 August 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
The only direct reference to religion is Nick Cage's final comment, when he says knows there's something after death, but even that line could interpreted in many ways, not necessarily in a Christian way. Maybe he just meant he knows his genes (and humanity in general) will go on after the Earth's death, because his kid had just been taken by the aliens.
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 August 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link
(x-post)
Yeah, I know the Christian stuff was put there quite intentionally, but there's nothing to suggest an explicit Christian interpretation of the story. If the aliens really were angels, why didn't God show up at any point?
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 August 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah the christian themes are crucial to interpreting the predictions as de facto intentions in the sense that an omniscient god implies an omnipotent god -- His "KNOW1NG" is equivalent to making those things happen. Hence, the aliens made those things happen.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 24 August 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
It was pretty creepy when the boy and girl were shown frolicking through the fields. i was expecting pedo-bear to pop up.
― bnw, Monday, 24 August 2009 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link
They didn't make them happen, but there's no way they (or Nick Cage) could've stopped them from happening, because they'd already "known" about them 50 years before. The movie has very deterministic flavour.
― Tuomas, Monday, 24 August 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
'there's no way they (or Nick Cage) could've stopped them from happening, because they'd already "known" about them 50 years before.'
recast this idea in the form of christian apologia -- God knows about future suffering and apocalypse, yet why doesn't he stop it? SO IT IS WRITTEN, SO IT SHALL BE! In this way, God escapes culpability.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 24 August 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
and in the end, the same excuse works on Cage. The aliens could have easily taken him along to planet skittles, but they're all, "no sorry, not in the script, old chap" and Cage pretty limply takes it and goes home to mope with his preacher dad, goin "aw shucks, i guess you were right after all, it's not God's fault when bad things happen, just like it's not these angelians fault they wouldn't let me hitch a ride on their spacemobile, and I was angry all this time for nuthin."
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 24 August 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
There were four aliens...
― Spencer Chow, Monday, 24 August 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah but there were a few scenes where there just 1 or 2 were present -- those were Frank & Beau, the others weren't deemed worthy of naming
― you just geek'd up our director of D4Ls (some dude), Monday, 24 August 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Beau was the one that vomited light, obviously
this is the most xian fucking movie i've ever seen that doesn't have jesus as a character, yeesh
― 'steen suicide (don't drive it) (s1ocki), Monday, 24 August 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost, I mention four as in horsemen.
― Spencer Chow, Monday, 24 August 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link
@ Elvis Telecom - Larry Niven's "Inconstant Moon" was adapted as an episode of Outer Limits, and its available in its entirety at YouTube. Michael Gross (of sitcom Family Ties) lives out his last night waiting for a solar flare sunrise. Not bad as an adaptation, though its let down by low budget effects at the end.
― Derelict, Monday, 24 August 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link
this movie was ridiculously entertaining
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 24 August 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link
This movie cured me of my cold.I thought the bunnies might be a Con-Air reference, but what do I know...
― Not the real Village People, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 11:58 (fourteen years ago) link
SPOILERS!!!I thought this was pretty good! I mean, the whole story made absolutely no sense at all... If the aliens knew what was gonna happen 50 years ago, why did they come up with such a ridiculously complex plot to save a handful of kids (I take it there were two kids in all of those space ships in the end, even though the two main kids were all we saw) right before the end of the world? Why not just slowly ship folks away during those 50 years, so they could've saved more people? And why come upt with such silly way of passing the information instead of just, you know, telling the truth right from the beginning? But if you get past all the plot holes, the movie was quite entertaining to watch. I hadn't been spoiled about the plot, so it was genuinely cool to watch a movie were you really couldn't guess what's gonna happen next (no way did I see the movie ending with the destruction of the whole Earth). And Proyas is still great at coming up with arresting and scary cinema; those accident scenes were genuinely disturbing, and the finale looked absolutely gorgeous!I think the Nick Cage is the best actor for these kind of films, because he can be totally earnest throughout the silliness. If the movie had had a nudge nudge wink wink, "you aren't really supposed to take this seriously" postmodern vibe, it would've just gone up its arse, and it would've been so much worse. You need to take it seriously for it to work, and Cage is perfect at portraying that seriousness. I mean, in the climax point of the movie the guy scrubbing paint away from an old cellar door to find out the cordinates scribbled to it by a school girl, which will lead him to the exact spot where space aliens will appear to rescue his son from the complete destruction of the Earth by the Sun, and when you write it down like this it's the stupidest thing you've ever heard, but when you're watching it on the screen you're there with him, and you totally believe in him, with all your heart, because he's Nick fucking Cage, and youre like, go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!!Because he's that good.― Tuomas, Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:45 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I thought this was pretty good! I mean, the whole story made absolutely no sense at all... If the aliens knew what was gonna happen 50 years ago, why did they come up with such a ridiculously complex plot to save a handful of kids (I take it there were two kids in all of those space ships in the end, even though the two main kids were all we saw) right before the end of the world? Why not just slowly ship folks away during those 50 years, so they could've saved more people? And why come upt with such silly way of passing the information instead of just, you know, telling the truth right from the beginning? But if you get past all the plot holes, the movie was quite entertaining to watch. I hadn't been spoiled about the plot, so it was genuinely cool to watch a movie were you really couldn't guess what's gonna happen next (no way did I see the movie ending with the destruction of the whole Earth). And Proyas is still great at coming up with arresting and scary cinema; those accident scenes were genuinely disturbing, and the finale looked absolutely gorgeous!
I think the Nick Cage is the best actor for these kind of films, because he can be totally earnest throughout the silliness. If the movie had had a nudge nudge wink wink, "you aren't really supposed to take this seriously" postmodern vibe, it would've just gone up its arse, and it would've been so much worse. You need to take it seriously for it to work, and Cage is perfect at portraying that seriousness. I mean, in the climax point of the movie the guy scrubbing paint away from an old cellar door to find out the cordinates scribbled to it by a school girl, which will lead him to the exact spot where space aliens will appear to rescue his son from the complete destruction of the Earth by the Sun, and when you write it down like this it's the stupidest thing you've ever heard, but when you're watching it on the screen you're there with him, and you totally believe in him, with all your heart, because he's Nick fucking Cage, and youre like, go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!!
Because he's that good.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:45 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is my all-time favorite tuomas post, by a country mile
― candice spergin (cankles), Saturday, 19 September 2009 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link
SPOILERS!!!!!!
I thought this film was great, like a '50's B-Movie with Biblical overtones. And Nic Cage wears the same blazer he wears in every other movie. Still didn't quite understand why the alien/angels saved such lame kids.
― (bracket name) (jel --), Saturday, 19 September 2009 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link
This movie provided an excellent example of Nic Cage's primary acting technique, namely YELLING HIS LINES AT OTHER CHARACTERS.
― she is writing about love (Jenny), Saturday, 19 September 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link
http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2009/9/25/9/andre-the-cage-8095-1253884320-2.jpg
― rent, Saturday, 26 September 2009 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Knowing director has a new film in development called Dracula Year Zero.
― Nate Carson, Saturday, 26 September 2009 02:09 (fourteen years ago) link
x-post HAHAHAHAHA YES! I saw this thread had been revived and said to myself pls pls let someone have posted the Andre/Nick pic. LOL.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Saturday, 26 September 2009 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wle7aaKAF0
ok people watch the v end of this^ shit (whole thing is amazing but only the end is KNOWING)
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 11 March 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Haha, they just swiped the whole scene from the movie!
― Tuomas, Friday, 12 March 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
haha yeah i remember that video came out like a week after i had rented Know1ng and had to like stop and rack my brain for a minute about where they jacked it from
― some dude, Friday, 12 March 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link