It is now time to fall in love with the King, Felix Hernandez

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And here I thought you guys would be complaining about the "narrative" events of the past week and how they will impact the voting:

-- Felix the clear CY winner, with Kluber right behind him
-- Felix blows up against Toronto, Seattle tanks their playoff chances, Kluber dominates in his final start and is looking like the frontrunner for the award
-- Oakland continues sucking, game 162 somehow ends up mattering for Seattle, Felix gets a shot at redemption for his team and a chance to upstage Kluber again

So Felix went from pariah who choked away the CY, to ace pitcher making the most important start of his career, all in less than a week.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 28 September 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link

He was removed from the game as soon as the A's won.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 28 September 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link

Aahhh - that's what happened.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 28 September 2014 22:54 (nine years ago) link

Close to a coin flip--for every point you make on one side, there's one on the other. I looked at the game logs and totaled quality starts using the same definition as Felix's streak: 7+ innings, 2 or fewer runs (earned or otherwise).

Kluber: 19/34
Felix: 22/34

Kluber wins on WAR and FIP, Felix on ERA and WHIP. Innings, they're separated by one out, K/BB and run support are also almost even. Kluber had the better September, for sure (after a poor start to start the month), and seeing as both teams were chasing a wild-card spot, I do think that matters. I'd probably vote for Felix for the reason I gave earlier: all things being close to equal, I'd rather vote for the established great player.

clemenza, Monday, 29 September 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link

Runs allowed depend on too many factors, so I like to look at Game Scores to get an idea of a pitcher's dominance.

Turns out that's more or less a wash too -- Kluber has more dominant starts (GSc > 80) but also more bad ones (GSc < 50), whereas Felix was more consistently good.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 September 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link

is this Cy Young going to com down to fielding? because that would be awesome!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 29 September 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link

three words for you: arm wrestling contest

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 September 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link

many cy youngs have come down to fielding bcz era is a team stat

which is why i vote for kluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubezzzzzzzzzzzzz

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Monday, 29 September 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

i would vote both Cys by FIP this year since Hamels is not in the NL top 5

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 September 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

4th youngest to 2000 K.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 10 May 2015 22:25 (eight years ago) link

Feller, Seaver, and Clemens the others? (Or maybe Blyleven.)

clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 00:24 (eight years ago) link

Only one of the four correct.

clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2015 00:25 (eight years ago) link

tied with orel for 70th all-time

at 29

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 May 2015 01:16 (eight years ago) link

Ryan surely

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 May 2015 01:31 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

wow

Houston - Bottom of 1st	SCORE
Felix Hernandez pitching for Seattle SEA HOU
Jose Altuve Strike (foul), Strike (foul), Altuve reached on infield single to shortstop 0 0
Preston Tucker Ball, Ball, Ball, Ball, Tucker walked, Altuve to second 0 0
George Springer Ball, Ball, Springer doubled to right, Altuve scored, Tucker to third 0 1
Evan Gattis Gattis grounded into fielder's choice to pitcher, Tucker and Springer scored, Gattis safe at second on throwing error by pitcher Hernández 0 3
Colby Rasmus Ball, Ball, Strike (looking), Strike (foul), Ball, Ball, Rasmus walked 0 3
Carlos Correa Strike (looking), Strike (swinging), Ball, Foul, Ball, Strike (looking), Correa struck out looking 0 3
Luis Valbuena Strike (swinging), Valbuena homered to right center, Gattis and Rasmus scored 0 6
Chris Carter Strike (looking), Strike (looking), Carter singled to left 0 6
Jason Castro Ball, Strike (foul), Castro homered to left, Carter scored 0 8
Jose Altuve Beimel relieved Hernández, Strike (looking), Altuve grounded out to shortstop 0 8
Preston Tucker Ball, Strike (foul), Ball, Tucker singled to center 0 8
George Springer Strike (swinging), Strike (swinging), Strike (swinging), Springer struck out swinging 0 8

johnny crunch, Saturday, 13 June 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link

The hell happened.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 13 June 2015 03:49 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

His bad stretch this year guaranteed it wouldn't be one of his better seasons, but he was great last night, and he'll end up with one of those filling-in-the-scenery type years that adds to his bulk numbers and strengthens his HOF résumé. Also making progress towards 300 wins, which, if it ever happens, will make him the latest guy to win 300 after it was obvious there's never be another 300-game winner again.

clemenza, Friday, 11 September 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link

I was surprised to see that he has 17 wins -- the second highest total of his career -- and has a good chance to win 20 for the first time. I wonder if anyone will write that Felix finally learned how to win (for a mediocre Seattle team that won't come close to making the playoffs) rather than only caring about his personal stats.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 11 September 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link

highly doubt felix will approach 300

felix is an interesting case. on one hand, he's been a poster child for the sabermetric movement almost since he broke into the league. on the other hand, a lot of his value comes from the old fashioned sense of being so durable and an innings-eater; his per-inning numbers are not really that special

usic ally (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 September 2015 02:38 (eight years ago) link

For the HOF, I imagine Felix will be fine with 225-250 wins. By the time he comes up for induction (2030 or so), pitcher wins will be a quaint relic.

I think he has a decent chance, though. He'll have 143-145 at the end of his age-29 season:

Clemens -- 152
Maddux -- 150
Seaver -- 146
Sutton -- 139
Carlton - 133
Glavine -- 124
Ryan -- 122

(No point in even listing Johnson, who didn't have his first really good season until he was 29.) I know that covers different eras, and that at least a couple of those guys go back to 4-man rotations. But he's in line with Maddux and Glavine, and much closer to the former than the latter. If he can bounce back to last year's form, he has a shot; if this year is the beginning of slow decline, no.

clemenza, Saturday, 12 September 2015 13:14 (eight years ago) link

Or let's say bounce back halfway; last year was good enough to be something of a blip.

clemenza, Saturday, 12 September 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

Felix is going to the bullpen. Servais informed him before the game.

— Ryan Divish (@RyanDivish) August 10, 2018

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 10 August 2018 05:44 (five years ago) link

I had no idea he'd been declining so badly

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/exile-for-king-felix/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 August 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

at least he got that funny strikeout of beltre the other day (before beltre went deep on him) : /

mookieproof, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:05 (five years ago) link

figured this day was coming but it sucks that it happens the one year the Mariners are actually kinda good

this sorta happened to Verlander too but he bounced back, maybe there's hope for the ol' King. he's only 32!

frogbs, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link

Gets a spot start tonight because Paxton is on the DL

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 August 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link

Should have been traded at the end of the 2016 season. He’s been worthless this last couple years.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 20 August 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

eight months pass...

felix hernandez, 2016-2019

434 IP, 77 GS
26-31, 4.79 ERA, 4.96 FIP, 4.43 xFIP, 1.36 WHIP
7.44 K/9 (19.1 K%), 3.27 BB/9 (8.4 BB%)

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Sunday, 12 May 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

so what you're saying is that he'd be the no. 1 starter for the 2019 orioles

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 May 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

Since his debut in 2005, Félix Hernández has made more starts at T-Mobile Park than any other pitcher at any single ballpark.

On Thursday, he will make his final start of the season at T-Mobile Park.

More: https://t.co/91j2vZb9lf pic.twitter.com/Lq4dX4IV5u

— MarinersPR (@MarinersPR) September 23, 2019


Seattle's first glimpse of King Félix. 👑#HappyFélixDay #TBT pic.twitter.com/fsxOEAAFUo

— Seattle Mariners (@Mariners) September 26, 2019

Andy K, Friday, 27 September 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link

is he officially retiring – or is everyone just assuming he's done?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 27 September 2019 01:27 (four years ago) link

Likely done with the Mariners. He has said that he doesn’t want to retire.

Andy K, Friday, 27 September 2019 02:31 (four years ago) link

An appropriate send-off from the mariners offense.

JoeStork, Friday, 27 September 2019 04:06 (four years ago) link

Since Felix’s 2010 season, there’s only been 5 pitchers who pitched 240 innings in a single season. Wainwright, Cueto, Price, Shields, Verlander. Except Verlander, it seems like they’ve all come to regret it.

I think Cueto and Price in 2014 will be the lasts.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 27 September 2019 06:07 (four years ago) link

Royalty. Loyalty. 👑 pic.twitter.com/gF39tVU5Bz

— Seattle Mariners (@Mariners) September 27, 2019

Andy K, Friday, 27 September 2019 11:54 (four years ago) link

nine months pass...

the bulb in my living room lamp went out. i was going to replace it, but it has a dimmer switch and it looks like i don’t have any dimmer bulbs. i’ve tried screwing in a standard bulb but it popped after just a couple days. i figure i’ll hold off until i can go buy the right bulb

— Jon Bois (@jon_bois) July 3, 2020

Check out the replies.

JoeStork, Friday, 3 July 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

:D

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 July 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

He’s got a strong dog game
https://i.postimg.cc/Jz7LHxDR/IMG-2906.jpg

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Thursday, 25 May 2023 22:49 (ten months ago) link


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