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― mookieproof, Friday, 26 September 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
uh didn't he already write a book that did that
― j., Friday, 26 September 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link
sure, but now someone else is writing another one
― mookieproof, Friday, 26 September 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link
met a nice avian at a party tonite who demurred at pynchon but enthusiastically boosted this chap and his corrections
lol I mean, no
― pretentious over rated bloody old rubbish (imago), Saturday, 27 September 2014 03:13 (nine years ago) link
reasonable effort but i challenge u to create the most condescending post
― mookieproof, Saturday, 27 September 2014 03:18 (nine years ago) link
o fuck off
― pretentious over rated bloody old rubbish (imago), Saturday, 27 September 2014 03:19 (nine years ago) link
that do
fwiw we bonded over dickens, and I'm wasted, and go fuck yourself, what the fuck happened, u used to be chill but for the last year or so str8 up asshole
― pretentious over rated bloody old rubbish (imago), Saturday, 27 September 2014 03:21 (nine years ago) link
wait was that not a joke? i honestly thought it was! but good lord
met a nice avian at a party tonite who demurred at pynchon but enthusiastically boosted this chap and his correctionslol I mean, no
ffs
― mookieproof, Saturday, 27 September 2014 03:39 (nine years ago) link
ur collectively gonna have to do more than that to win me over to team franzen
― pretentious over rated bloody old rubbish (imago), Saturday, 27 September 2014 03:44 (nine years ago) link
only posted here coz someone recommended him to me & by some coincidence the thread was bumped. ignore me, I know nothing and am shitfaced. just seemed to me a weird preference but I've only seen Franzen in extract form so w/e he might be great. don't saddle me with ccondescending tho ffs, it is simply preferences in isolation
― pretentious over rated bloody old rubbish (imago), Saturday, 27 September 2014 03:49 (nine years ago) link
lol fair enough as i am also hammered
― mookieproof, Saturday, 27 September 2014 03:55 (nine years ago) link
Kathy Acker got there first:
"Jonathan Galassi, president and publisher of Farrar, Straus & Giroux, described “Purity” as a multigenerational American epic that spans decades and continents. The story centers on a young woman named Purity Tyler, or Pip, who doesn’t know who her father is and sets out to uncover his identity. The narrative stretches from contemporary America to South America to East Germany before the collapse of the Berlin Wall, and hinges on the mystery of Pip’s family history and her relationship with a charismatic hacker and whistleblower."
― scott seward, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link
TIME Magazine cover to come
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
http://bookriot.com/2015/02/14/jonathan-franzen-parody/
JF: Really. Well, I don’t spend time on those media, and you can see why. Why would I want to go there? To some extent I feel it means I’m doing my job, which is to try to tell the truth. You know, no prophet is welcome in his homeland. If I am indeed a polarizing figure here, it is certainly true that I am not a polarizing figure in Europe.
http://booth.butler.edu/2015/02/13/a-conversation-with-jonathan-franzen/
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 February 2015 08:06 (nine years ago) link
dude's a prophet.
Bad answer, but the question was kind of crappy to begin with. I don't know what a gracious answer to this would be:
SL: You do seem to be, amongst writers, a polarizing figure. I don’t mean to be offensive, but it seems to be that you are the writer other writers love to hate. Why do you think this is?
Best thing probably would have been to not answer.
― jmm, Sunday, 15 February 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link
Jonathan Franzen, arguably the best living American novelist
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 February 2015 14:18 (nine years ago) link
What's to argue?
― Up the Junction Boulevard (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 February 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link
http://www.3ammagazine.com/3am/mislaid-an-interview-with-nell-zink/
in case like me you are liable to see franzen blurbs and become suspicious
3:AM: It’s well known than Jonathan Franzen wanted to promote your book, but were there challenges in that?NZ: There’s the challenge that I’d get lost in the shuffle, but then I was coming from having absolutely no reputation at all, good, bad, or otherwise.It was certainly very helpful to have this connection with him because he’s sort of click bait. When people write about me they’ll find a way to mention him so they can tag their post with his name.The net effect has been very positive. I mean it’s not like I’m a dyed-in-the-wool Franzen fan. People who are sceptical about his work might think, “Oh, she sounds so interesting, but if Franzen likes her she must secretly be really square.” I can understand that, I really can.I think of stuff like Freedom as deeply reactionary work. But I’ve been hammering on his head for a while and I think [Franzen’s next novel] Purity is different. Probably Purity will be a flop or something. But I think in Purity he stretches out a little bit and you see that he does have occasional critical thoughts about how the world works, and he’s not just trying to get families back together. Because family’s much more important than anything in the whole wide world… There’s a little more to him than that.
NZ: There’s the challenge that I’d get lost in the shuffle, but then I was coming from having absolutely no reputation at all, good, bad, or otherwise.
It was certainly very helpful to have this connection with him because he’s sort of click bait. When people write about me they’ll find a way to mention him so they can tag their post with his name.
The net effect has been very positive. I mean it’s not like I’m a dyed-in-the-wool Franzen fan. People who are sceptical about his work might think, “Oh, she sounds so interesting, but if Franzen likes her she must secretly be really square.” I can understand that, I really can.
I think of stuff like Freedom as deeply reactionary work. But I’ve been hammering on his head for a while and I think [Franzen’s next novel] Purity is different. Probably Purity will be a flop or something. But I think in Purity he stretches out a little bit and you see that he does have occasional critical thoughts about how the world works, and he’s not just trying to get families back together. Because family’s much more important than anything in the whole wide world… There’s a little more to him than that.
― j., Wednesday, 1 July 2015 02:18 (eight years ago) link
Pretty suspicious of Nell Zinc, tbh.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link
The Wallcreeper was really good
― as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 11:58 (eight years ago) link
really? ok. i might take a look. she comes across like a grumpy teenager in interviews.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 12:40 (eight years ago) link
his new yorker piece about bird preservation and climate change was very nearly the worst thing I remember reading in that magazine
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link
I liked his short story in the summer fiction issue
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, her interviews would put me off, too, as would the Franzen connection, but fortunately I read The Wallcreeper before I knew about any of that stuff
― as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Thursday, 2 July 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link
my hero:
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/aug/21/jonathan-franzen-considered-adopting-iraqi-orphan-young-people
― scott seward, Friday, 21 August 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link
didn't think my hatred for this middlebrow bas' could grow any further.
― you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Friday, 21 August 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
Franzen getting sonned on twitter is not exactly a rare occurrence but I still love this:
But he insisted: “I’m not a sexist. I am not somebody who goes around saying men are superior, or that male writers are superior. In fact, I really go out of my way to champion women’s work that I think is not getting enough attention. None of that is ever enough. Because a villain is needed. It’s like there’s no way to make myself not male.”Speaking about a character in his forthcoming novel, Purity – a fanatical feminist who, among other things, forces her husband to urinate sitting down on the toilet to atone for his maleness – Franzen predicted that she would enrage his critics; in fact, she already has. “After all these years we finally get to read a man’s take on feminism,” tweeted the Canadian writer Anne Thériault. “Bless you and the hard work you do, Mr Franzen.”
Speaking about a character in his forthcoming novel, Purity – a fanatical feminist who, among other things, forces her husband to urinate sitting down on the toilet to atone for his maleness – Franzen predicted that she would enrage his critics; in fact, she already has. “After all these years we finally get to read a man’s take on feminism,” tweeted the Canadian writer Anne Thériault. “Bless you and the hard work you do, Mr Franzen.”
― one way street, Friday, 21 August 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link
i urinate sitting down on the toilet at night so as not to make too much noise because of an ilx post by roxymuzak
― flopson, Friday, 21 August 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link
that known man-hater, roxymuzak.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 21 August 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link
i don't think he was meaning that, although i may be wrong.
― you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Friday, 21 August 2015 23:25 (eight years ago) link
oh no, i'm very keen on roxy, it was not a slight on her or flopson, i was just being silly.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 21 August 2015 23:27 (eight years ago) link
apologies.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 21 August 2015 23:30 (eight years ago) link
michiko likes it - http://nyti.ms/1KI5cww
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 11:47 (eight years ago) link
Just glanced at Grantland takedown somebody posted on FB that seems pretty otm
― Exile's Return To Sender (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 September 2015 23:06 (eight years ago) link
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:15 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
didnt realize this was an excerpt, it worked stand alone 4 me
― johnny crunch, Friday, 4 September 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/the-franzen-of-it-all-purity-and-the-great-american-novelist/
i have broken my vow to never learn the plot of jonathan franzen's 'purity', i guess
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 5 September 2015 05:45 (eight years ago) link
cant you read ferrante instead i miss talking to you about books
― dead (Lamp), Saturday, 5 September 2015 06:02 (eight years ago) link
i saw someone at the bistro i had lunch at with this book on her table, she didnt pick it up once during her meal, preferring the company of her phone
tbf i'm not actually gonna read this
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 5 September 2015 06:58 (eight years ago) link
tbf she was probably making the right choice
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 5 September 2015 06:59 (eight years ago) link
anyway i am reading nell zink and that's already too close to franzen
http://i.minus.com/jbzHff8gxenJou.jpg
― abcfsk, Saturday, 5 September 2015 08:26 (eight years ago) link
i saw someone at the bistro i had lunch at with this book on her table, she didnt pick it up once during her meal, preferring the company of her phone― dead (Lamp), Saturday, September 5, 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― dead (Lamp), Saturday, September 5, 2015 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
#winningAtLife
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 September 2015 09:17 (eight years ago) link
Now imagining Franzen sitting right behind her and fuming.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 September 2015 09:23 (eight years ago) link
I loved that Grantland piece.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 September 2015 11:18 (eight years ago) link
yeah, it's kinda beautiful!
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 September 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link
I'm on vacation in Sanibel this weekend, and visiting the local bookstore I saw a copy of Purity. I held it up and said to the cashier, "You're gonna sell a lot of these."
She nodded. "Unfortunately."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 September 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link
ha!
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 September 2015 17:37 (eight years ago) link