Bryan Ferry -- Avonmore

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Funny to read that same world-weary-when-he-was-young statement about Leonard Cohen earlier this week.

the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link

First listen is giving me a sort of Bete Noire vibe.

cpl593H, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 17:30 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

New interview:

http://soundcheck.wnyc.org/story/bryan-ferry-release-new-album-after-four-years/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

is he awake

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

Are any of us

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link

not a question?

Mark G, Thursday, 16 October 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Stream now live on NPR

http://www.npr.org/2014/11/09/361384563/first-listen-bryan-ferry-avonmore

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 November 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link

Definitely pitched in between Bete Noire and Mamouna in terms of energetic/enervating slickness but it has some nice twists from "Soldier of Fortune" on in the arrangements and how he sings the choruses. Title track is almost his "Oh people are all about 80s soundtrack music to urban thrillers now well here's your theme song" move.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 November 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

A couple of tracks, "Midnight Train" in particular, have had their vocals and chords lifted from early nineties outtakes.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 November 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link

If that's the album cover, that picture looks even older than that. Maybe as old as mid-70s.

cpl593H, Monday, 10 November 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link

The font in the album cover also seems totally lifted from "Avalon"

cpl593H, Monday, 10 November 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link

Misread the album title as Bryan Ferry--Awesome

the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Monday, 10 November 2014 19:20 (nine years ago) link

I haven't listened to it yet, but I have a feeling I know but it sounds like.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 November 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

A new Ferry album is sort of like a new AC/DC or Ramones album by now.

cpl593H, Monday, 10 November 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

I think I like it more than Olympia (which I liked) though. Some songs remind me of Frantic.

cpl593H, Monday, 10 November 2014 21:16 (nine years ago) link

I'll agree the back half is better.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 02:27 (nine years ago) link

Interview at the Quietus

http://thequietus.com/articles/16665-bryan-ferry-interview

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 November 2014 13:59 (nine years ago) link

That's a great piece. Should have ended before the live review stuff, though.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 November 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link

EUREKA

In many ways, your story – the Bryan Ferry story – is all about a steady progression from a dark and witty parody of elitist sophistication towards the real thing.

BF: Well, yeah.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 13 November 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

There's a video for Loop De Li:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a0_ko3Vr68

The main guy looks pretty much like Tara Ferry to me.

cpl593H, Thursday, 20 November 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link

Vivaroxymusic says it's not Tara. I like the video, though. Not what I was expecting.

cpl593H, Thursday, 20 November 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link

Title track on this is awesome.

A couple of tracks, "Midnight Train" in particular, have had their vocals and chords lifted from early nineties outtakes.

Def. sounds like a Mamouna outtake. He uses so many guys—and so many of the same guys—on every record it's hard to be sure. But "Midnight Train" and "Lost" have Andy Newmark on them and I believe he was on that record.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 28 November 2014 03:30 (nine years ago) link

Title track on this is awesome.

Absolutely! It's my favorite on the album.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 28 November 2014 03:32 (nine years ago) link

It boasts fewer players than the recent albums, and for the first time since 1994 he dominates the songwriting and keyboard credits.

sw00ds and I discussed the album:

http://rockcritics.com/2014/11/26/roxymania-back-from-the-dead/

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 November 2014 03:37 (nine years ago) link

I was wrong – Newmark wasn't on that. So much for that theory.

Here's another: Ferry has the anti-career. I mean, in one respect he's been making the same record for thirty-plus years. But look a little bit more closely and there are little sidebars. The Dylan album. The big band stuff.

And then there's all the jumping around. Around the time of Mamouna he starts acknowledging that he's been in a rut since Avalon and saying his best work was on the Eno Roxy records. So then he begins recording conscious returns to that era of his career on Frantic and in other moments. Then just as he seems to be hitting his stride over the next decade the Avalon stuff comes back into vogue with guys like Terje, Hell and Lindstrom so with Olympia he returns to that era which he continues even more self-consciously on this one.

It's an anti-career. Or career without a trajectory anyway.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 28 November 2014 03:59 (nine years ago) link

It has always been a weird ride for Ferry, if you think about it. He started his career with not one, but two cover albums. Then on his third, he goes for covers and new versions of his old stuff. And then he went with one of the first band reunions ever. None of these things were as common back then as they are today.

cpl593H, Friday, 28 November 2014 12:54 (nine years ago) link

Pretty sure those cover albums were practical, in that he had to save his songs for Roxy. It wasn't until Roxy went on hiatus that Ferry solo started to be mostly solo Ferry tracks, right?

Even then, I think the Ferry sound is, in its way, akin to what Peter Gabriel does: records a bunch of stuff with a bunch of people, session guys and guests, then spends months and weeks editing, arranging and assembling the results. I'm pretty sure he's said that his recording process is generally just him and one musician at a time; no two ringers are in the room simultaneously. That's sort of a stuffier version of Eno recording the same song multiple times with multiple groups of musicians then picking the best parts, except Eno goes toward playful anarchy and Ferry goes for precision.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 November 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link

On recording with Johnny Marr (and recording generally):

"I did the keyboards and Johnny Marr's playing the guitar. Then you hear Nile Rodgers enter on the chorus. Marcus Miller's playing the bass. I'm very happy with the way it turned out. I tend to start the thing on piano first. I do the sketch on piano. Normally, at home. Then I bring it to the studio later and then start turning it into something. I give them a free reign normally, because I know how sympathetic they will play. Over the years, you get to form really firm musical bonds with people. And I first worked with some of these guys and boys and girls back in '83, so we go back quite a long way."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/11/04/361155023/bryan-ferry-shares-new-songs-and-stories-from-his-upcoming-record

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 November 2014 14:30 (nine years ago) link

I love Ferry, but I do get a vibe that he realizes he can't do this forever and is making up for lost time with tours, albums, interviews, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 November 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link

If there's anything he can't do forever it's sing.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 28 November 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link

He could just stand on stage and look good.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 November 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link

Me thinks we're just about there.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 28 November 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link

eh, saw him earlier this year on the Bryan Ferry Rock'n'Roll Extravaganza/Good-Time Revue and he was just fine voxwise

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 28 November 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link

he did look good tho

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 28 November 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link

But some of the songs on the new album really sound like his voice is shot.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 28 November 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link

I'm really struck by how much his little reconnection with the ol' 70s bite that reemerged with Frantic, Dylanesque and (to perhaps a lesser extent) Olympia has been almost wholly subsumed once again by the Closet Smoothie.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 12 December 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link

Dylanesque is his worst album.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 December 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

Def his worst cover. Maybe Ferry is like Morrissey, where the less thought that went into the cover art the worse the album?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 December 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

this album is a pretty big drop from olympia IMO, because his voice sounds so shot. what's weird though is that reports are that he sounded fine in his live shows a few months ago...

akm, Friday, 12 December 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link

His voice sounded somewhat gone to me back in Frantic but I felt he turned that into a strength, especially in "Don't think twice".

cpl593H, Friday, 12 December 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link

tbh Olympia sounded drab and exhausted in 2010 too. We're talking about gradations of languor here, people.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 December 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link

There are things about it tho that sounded energized, creatively anyway – the Al Jolson-in-a-Gay-Club chorus to "Heartache By Numbers," the Avalon sample driving "You Can Dance." This one sounds like he's falling back into old habits. Again.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 12 December 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link

what is 'avonmore' in this instance? a quick gis suggests it's an irish brand of fresh custard, but i will begrudgingly consider alternative hypotheses

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Maybe it's about his crippling addiction to face creams ordered from catalogues delivered by door-to-door agents?

Welcome To (Turrican), Friday, 12 December 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link

/Dylanesque/ is his worst album.

It may well be but my feelings about "Positively 4th Street" are so strong that it probably colors my perceptions of the rest of it.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 12 December 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link

Digging into the Horoscope and Alphaville sessions for the first time to see if they reveals anything about his working methods with respect to Avonmore. Former maintains the skeletal funk that resulted on Mamouna, but almost entirely absent the ambient sonics. The latter finds him experimenting with all kinds of contemporaneous dance styles – drum n' bass ("You Can Dance"), hip hop beats ("San Simeon," oddly enough). Interestingly, both kind of end up in a very similar place by the end.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 14 December 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link

what is 'avonmore' in this instance?

Custard connection would be great and maybe even explain the vocal problems, sadly it seems to be just the studio location at Avonmore Road, Kensington.

the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Monday, 15 December 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

I just bought tickets today to see him in August! I haven't bought expensive concert tix on the day of release in forever, but Siren and Manifesto tours remain two of my most amazing concert experiences, and I'm figuring this may be my last chance to see him. I haven't really been keeping up with the last umpteen albums, but Avonmore is sounding good to me today, and recent setlists are very Roxy-retrospective.

You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Friday, 10 March 2017 19:13 (seven years ago) link

Unfortunately he played no Avonmore songs last night.

He did play "Zamba" though!

My review: https://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2017/03/10/now-theres-no-sense-in-falling-bryan-ferry-live/

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2017 19:14 (seven years ago) link

saw him a few months ago and he was great. played several Avonmore tracks, i think. plus loads of Roxy Music deep cuts. had a chance to talk to his sax player after the show too, apparently he found her via her previous band on myspace!

nomar, Friday, 10 March 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link

excellent version of "Stronger Through the Years" I heard too

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link

OMG this my first time hearing his cover of "Johnny and Mary!"

You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Friday, 10 March 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link

Very weird, put this on yesterday for the first time in a while, total coincidence! iTunes shuffle had given me the Todd Terje album first, which of course brought me back to this. But then it brought me back to Robert Palmer's "Clues," since I had heard his "Johnny and Mary" out and about the other day, which I rarely do. Usually it's the title track.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 March 2017 20:39 (seven years ago) link

I'm listening to Avonmore for the first time, at work on youtube, and I hadn't glanced at a tracklist, so both "Send In The Clowns" and this took me by complete surprise. This is beautiful, but his voice is a sad reminder of what a lifetime of cigarettes will do to a person.

You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Friday, 10 March 2017 20:56 (seven years ago) link

Reportedly he gave them up in the mid '80s.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 March 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link

To be fair, he's in his 70s, or was at least just about there at the time. He pretty much ... sounds his age.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 March 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link

He does on the rest of the tracks; I just thought "J&M" was particularly Leonard Cohen-esque, but some of that may have been purposeful.

You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Friday, 10 March 2017 22:08 (seven years ago) link

"Which Way To Turn" is a gorgeous track

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Saturday, 11 March 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PRJj73J-l8

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Saturday, 11 March 2017 21:22 (seven years ago) link

agreed

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 March 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link

On recording with Johnny Marr (and recording generally):

"I did the keyboards and Johnny Marr's playing the guitar. Then you hear Nile Rodgers enter on the chorus. Marcus Miller's playing the bass. I'm very happy with the way it turned out. I tend to start the thing on piano first. I do the sketch on piano. Normally, at home. Then I bring it to the studio later and then start turning it into something. I give them a free reign normally, because I know how sympathetic they will play. Over the years, you get to form really firm musical bonds with people. And I first worked with some of these guys and boys and girls back in '83, so we go back quite a long way."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/11/04/361155023/bryan-ferry-shares-new-songs-and-stories-from-his-upcoming-record🔗


Apropos of nothing, seems pretty clear that NPR mucked up the last line of this interview.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:27 (seven years ago) link

lol. i can see how that could happen in transcription but someone should have caught it.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 12 March 2017 23:56 (seven years ago) link

also: "free reign"

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 12 March 2017 23:56 (seven years ago) link

What'd folks think of Avonmore: The Remix Album? I just noticed it on Spotify and while it seems to have the usual cast of characters—Leo Zero, etc.—I immediately tuned in the Prins Thomas mix of the title track and am enjoying it.

I will say: despite the fact that I'm still not sure what to make of the fact that Ferry fell back into his 80s studio sound for the umpteenth time for his albums proper, for a 70-plus year old man, his commitment to remix culture is fairly impressive.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 13 March 2017 01:54 (seven years ago) link

I read an interview with Ferry a couple years ago where he said he doesn't listen to music at home, just like ambient soundscapes. Seemed like a Ferry thing to say.

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Monday, 13 March 2017 02:36 (seven years ago) link

eh Avonmore doesn't sound like a Return to the Velvet Fog -- too damn sprightly.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2017 02:47 (seven years ago) link

About half those songs would like a word with you, Alfred – esp. the title track, "Midnight Train," "Driving Me Wild"...

Big studio budgets are like Bryan Ferry's personal Death Star ... with the power of three interchangeable rhythm guitarists pulling him ever closer to certain, elegant destruction.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 13 March 2017 04:50 (seven years ago) link

He had as many as three guitarists and four keyboardists on consensus pick Frantic. What I like about Olympia and Avonmore is how his decision to be solo keyboardist focuses the songs. Some song are nothings ("Midnight Train" and "Soldier of Fortune" would be duds on any album).

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2017 12:13 (seven years ago) link

I find "Soldier of Fortune" to be nice change of pace on this record. "Midnight Train," OTOH, had been kicking around since Horoscope in the early- to mid-90s (featuring no less than NINE guitarists) for no apparent reason.

Truth be told, "Lost" may be my secret favorite on this album – and Ferry is listed as the sole keyboardist on that one. So your theory may not be wrong.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 13 March 2017 12:59 (seven years ago) link

My jams are the title track, "Driving Me Wild" (on which he plays piano and chintzy organ), "Lost," and "One Night Stand." Oh - "Loop de Li" too. So that's almost half the album.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2017 13:09 (seven years ago) link

I don't think all the guitarists are indulgent in the way people think. Over the years Ferry enlists different combinations of players to tackle different songs slightly different ways, and in the end he cobbles together the various sessions into one final product. I think that's what takes him so long, not the tracking but the editing and reconfiguration. Like, I bet folks like Marr and Nile are rarely ever in the same room together, let alone the three (!) bassists on the title track. The irony is that the results are often so more or less similarly smooth, as opposed to, say, Eno's results with the same approach he pioneered. As early as "Warm Jets" Eno would take multiple stabs at the same song with different bands, and then pick and choose what makes it to the end, with gleefully chaotic results, like "Needles in the Camel's Eye," which are pretty clearly two bands playing the same song at once.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 March 2017 14:55 (seven years ago) link

I think that's what takes him so long, not the tracking but the editing and reconfiguration

oh he's admitted this

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 March 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link

See also: Peter Gabriel.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 March 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link

Nine Horses' (D. Sylvian, S. Jansen, B. Friedman) 'Snow Borne Sorrow' is the best '00s album Bryan Ferry never made.

Max Florian, Saturday, 18 March 2017 01:14 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

Elegant video, but it's the worst song on his worst album. I was so shocked when I first heard it that I imagined that if someone told me this was a parody, I'd think "how cruel, he'd never write a song this terrible!"

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 02:58 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQxEYigj9eA

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 03:19 (two years ago) link

6:45

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 03:21 (two years ago) link

Elegant video, but it's the worst song on his worst album. I was so shocked when I first heard it that I imagined that if someone told me this was a parody, I'd think "how cruel, he'd never write a song this terrible!"

― Halfway there but for you,

Nah. It can't be the worst when "Soldier of Fortune" or "Midnight Train" exist.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 09:34 (two years ago) link

Was this really released seven years ago? 😳

All this time on, the record sounds like what it is: a grab bag of leftovers from the Horoscope and Alphaville sessions, with a few new-ish things mixed on a 256-track Neve desk in his studio castle. Part of me wonders whether Alfred's dislike of "Soldier of Fortune" is that it is Ferry over a guitar a la Dylanesque, one of his least favorite--and most guitar-based--records. "Lost" remains pretty good. "Driving Me Wild" sounds like Dave Stewart may have had a hand in it (tho the credits don't reflect that). The title track is peak late-period Ferry, tho -- and while I'm less enamored with the dying-old-man "Johnny and Mary" and "Send In the Clowns" covers than others, I do enjoy them. The Mamouna retread twenty years on that no one was asking for.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 8 October 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link

"Loop De Li" is a fun single too.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 October 2021 14:00 (two years ago) link

"Loop De Li" is good, the title track is almost good, the covers are adequately sung but conceptually corny, the rest is weak to terrible.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 8 October 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

"Johnny and Mary" is conceptually brilliant.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 October 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link

"Loop De Li" is a fun single too.

Agreed, tho the version on Horoscope ("Your Love Has Died") is superior, largely bc of the comparative power of his vocal (Mamouna probably features his best late-period vocals -- you can hear a little smoke sneak in on Frantic). There are even a few achy "More Than This"-y moments which were stricken from the record around 1997. It's also mixed more skeletally, as was his wont in the early-90s.

Not sure if Trower was involved by that point, but both the voice and mix are superior on the Horoscope "Midnight Train," too -- which still isn't one of his stronger compositions but suits Ferry's urban funk era much better a la "NYC" than the heavy beated return to it two decades later.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 8 October 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link

I have no idea what led Ferry to Trower or even about Trower's sideline as producer, but he was the best collaborator outside of Eno that Ferry could've asked for.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 October 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link

"Johnny and Mary" is conceptually brilliant.

I don't think it works as a dirge, all the pathos in Robert Palmer's version comes from the contrast of the downbeat words and the sprightly tempo.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 8 October 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link

I think it's ... fine as a dirge? But yeah -- I think the Ferry version is both more sophisticated but also less complex, if that makes sense.

I have no idea what led Ferry to Trower or even about Trower's sideline as producer, but he was the best collaborator outside of Eno that Ferry could've asked for.

Yeah, me neither. But Taxi was the first Ferry solo record I bought -- I picked it up when it came out. And even then, I was struck by how it was his simultaneously his Lothario Smoothie persona that shot him to superstardom as well as kind of weird, distant and not particularly commercial. It's still one of my favorites of his.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 8 October 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

yall hear this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U32k9zabDjE

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 8 October 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link


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