Rolling Metal Thread 2014

holy shit I just saw them last night in NYC and I totally agree they were an absolute revelation, they deserve to be huge.

I also posted a rad youtube of a show from earlier this year in the grind thread where they close out their set with a pretty sweet cover of Zero; unfortunately that did not happen last night

Wow, they're really good. And name your price downloads on bandcamp btw.

Instead of signing fucking wrestlers

You know I love Cloud Rat and they deserve all the above, but that UltraMantis Black record is pretty good (of course if anything, Relapse is doing it b/c most of the band is Pissed Jeans, not b/c the singer wrestles for CHIKARA).

indie rock chicks doing black metal

C'mon, really? Black metal is hardly in need of protection from girl germs. And any genre that started out in fucking face paint has no "authenticity" to protect.

^So OT fucking M it hurts

Let's not go overboard here, if Relapse had signed the dude from ex-Cops doing layered chanting over unremarkable BM instead, I highly doubt reactions would be much more favourable. And a band like Astarte was pretty widely respected, if the reactions on Tristessa's death are any indication.

but the post in question wasnt dismissive of the music but of the person making it.

well yeah, the idea that someone from any cultural/musical etc background 'shouldn't' make black metal or any other type of music for that matter is fucking stupid.

Full disclosure: I haven't heard Murkyr yet, but I think corpse paint is idiotic

Corpse paint is amazing when it's being worn by Immortal, the black metal tag team that never were.

If Relapse was so proud of the origins of that project, why was it not touted by the label? Why the secret?

Mystery helped pique press interest. Also allowed for people to hear the music before decrying it as "false".

xp omg yes this is the first time a metal act was ever secretive.

Let's not go overboard here, if Relapse had signed the dude from ex-Cops doing layered chanting over unremarkable BM instead, I highly doubt reactions would be much more favourable. And a band like Astarte was pretty widely respected, if the reactions on Tristessa's death are any indication.

If Relapse was as proud of it, why didn't they just say she's from Ex-Cops?

I actually like the Myrkur quite a bit. I don't understand the need to hide who did it (unless the horrible reception that the Vverevvolf Grehv album made them gun-shy about promoting alt-rockers delving into extreme music, but it didn't when it came to releasing it in the first place?); that is the gimmickry that annoys me. And I didn't like the UltraMantis Black to be honest (though I like Pissed Jeans).

Cloud Rat is exactly the kind of band that Relapse should be working with (assuming the band wanted to work with them): prolific and really fucking tight, have done a lot on their own and can use a bigger label to get them to the "next level" (more people to hear their actually pretty thoughtful lyrics).

Meh. It's a gimmick. I appreciate a good back-story, but "Ex-Cops chick makes awesome black metal record" is a fine story on it's own. If someone cries that it's "false," you think they appreciate being led astray to begin with? They're lost causes anyway.

It's marketing, and if you really think that "indie person makes metal" isn't a huge turnoff for a lot of black metal fans you're just plain wrong.

FYI: don't call her a "chick" after saying in the post before that it's funny how someone latched onto your use of "girl" as derisory.

Sorry you're butthurt about "chick." I used it colloquially, not as an insult.

Marketing = "Indie rocker makes black metal record."
Lame = "Let's play a game about who made this black metal record."

You don't get it. That's okay.

And don't be an ass.

But thanks for not using "broad" too.

Yeah, I don't get it. "Ass" is much nicer than chick or broad. Because reasons.

Colloquial.

http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/1917/01/1917_1263510806.jpg

Kill them now.

guys,

Cloud Rat's Neil Young cover is really great, btw

not going to wade in on black metal and authenticity per se as I've kinda made my own mess of things where that is concerned

but as far as black metal and gender goes, it seems like an either-way-you-lose dynamic- keep your gender a total secret and cultural invisibility and a tacit male-gendering of the genre continues; show your female gender and enter the maelstrom of judgments and disputes around how female musicians are marketed / ought to be marketed / are under the microscope from the get-go because of that very tacit male-gendering in the first place

haven't heard the record, wish I could just go in knowing nothing really and just take it on its own terms

it's a good record that speaks for itself imo, give it a shot

There needs to be a feminist black metal movement so that it can be called "third-wave black metal".

Couple of older records I'm enjoying this summer:
Black Wreath - A Pyre Of Lost Dreams (funeral doom by the Saturnus dude)
Basarabian Hills - In The Stillness Of The Codrii (Moldovan ambient metal, total Lustre-worship)
Aquilus - Griseus (excellent folk BM not too far from Agalloch)
Walknut - Graveforests And Their Shadows (the band name suggests the members are hiking enthusiasts, but this is excellent Russian atmospheric BM)
Todsgelichter - Angst (well-produced, very varied, German prog-leaning BM)
Galdr - Galdr (blown-out sounding depressive black metal, much better than last years Ancient Light From The Stars)
Shape Of Despair - Shades Of... (dreamy funeral doom, has been recommended to me lots of time and the hype is justified)
Murmuüre - Murmuüre (claustrophobic improv industrial meets (black?) metal)
Lantern - Subterranean Effulgence (cavernous death metal)
Hordes - Songs To Hall Up High (this is pre-Countess black/doom from 1992, no-skills raw as fuck, demented vocals and all drenched in reverb and bizarrely, flanger effects)
Hellveto - Galeon/Hellveto (overambitious Polish orchestral black/viking metal)
Grisâtre - Esthaetique (awesome French depressive black metal)
Doom:VS - Dead Words Speak (doom doom doom)
Dub Buk - Мертві сорому не ймуть (seems to be their least rated album among fans but I really enjoy this weird epic folk thrash/black)

Murmuüre - Murmuüre (claustrophobic improv industrial meets (black?) metal)

listening now, this is great. Just read one review that compared it to Coil, and that kind of thing almost makes more sense than hearing as a black metal record

yeah, that record is quite good. it's a shame there hasn't been another for a few years (even under another alias, as far as I can tell).

glad to see people finally catching on to cloud rat
another band to watch that's currently touring is pyka from CT, fierce grindcore with femme/trans themes http://pyka.bandcamp.com/ holler @ it

NO MERCY: Suicidal Records To Re-Release Widespread
Bloodshed (Love Runs Red) From Legendary Crossover Act

Suicidal Records is proud to announce their plans of re-releasing the entire collective works by legendary crossover outfit, NO MERCY, this October.

Founded by Mike Clark in the mid-'80s, before he became a part of the dominating Suicidal Tendencies, NO MERCY only released one album amidst touring regionally on the West Coast in the band's short-lived history, yet those songs left an impressive impact on the scene forever. With Clark handling all guitar duties, joined by bassist (and O.G. Suicidal artist) Ric Clayton, drummer Sal Troy, and Suicidal's Mike Muir on vocals, Widespread Bloodshed (Love Runs Red) was engineered by Palm Neal and produced by Mike Muir, and after being originally released on LP and cassette by Suicidal Tendencies' own Suicidal Records in 1987, now, over two-and-a-half decades since it's been available, the label will reissue these timeless anthems in upgraded quality.

Remastered by "Big Bass" Brian Gardner at Bernie Grundman Mastering in Hollywood, Widespread Bloodshed (Love Runs Red) will be released in the US on October 28th (also Mike Clark's birthday) on CD, download as well as traditional black vinyl and picture disc LP versions. The record will see release in Europe the day before on CD and digital only.

Stand by for preorder links and more on the reissue of Widespread Bloodshed (Love Runs Red) in the coming days.

Widespread Bloodshed (Love Runs Red) Track Listing:
1. We're Evil
2. Crazy But Proud
3. Master Of No Mercy
4. Day Of The Damned
5. Controlled By Hatred
6. I'm Your Nightmare
7. Widespread Bloodshed-Love Runs Red
8. My Own Way Of Life
9. Waking The Dead

http://www.cvltnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/No_Mercy_Metal_-_Widespread_Bloodshed_Love_Runs_Red.jpg

Pretty great album and one of my favorite album covers of the era.

Never heard it at the time; very interested to check it out, especially since Suicidal Tendencies covered four of these songs ("Master Of No Mercy," "Controlled By Hatred," "[Choosing] My Own Way Of Life," and "Waking The Dead") on Controlled By Hatred...Feel Like Shit.

No Mercy album is seriously great.

Since it was discussed, here's a new video from Myrkur:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32KB0epn21E#t=67

Enyattens Barn

Compositionally, it's just kind of generic melodic black metal. It's fine, I guess.

In 2010, after eight full-lengths, the man behind Xasthur, Malefic himself, stepped outside the shadow of mystery and simply became who he was all along, Scott Conner. Rather than holing up in a cabin in the backwoods of Tennessee a la Vinnie Vincent however, Conner immediately set out to challenge himself to learn something that from his perspective had been the muse inside him all along: bluegrass. (VICE)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy0xidLh4nA

So I didn't get Uncle Acid & The Deadbeats tickets for the Philly show tomorrow and to my surprise, they sold out. I try not to buy tickets until I know I am able to get off work for obvious reasons, the hazards of working nights.

On StubHub they are asking $70 a ticket which is insane! I'm okay with a mark-up but that's probably triple the regular cost.

If someone can assist getting me into the show, that would be appreciated. The last time I asked for this kind of help here I was ignored but nothing ventured, right?

SF show also sold out and prices on Stub Hub equally insane. I assume Craigslist is way to go here?

glad to see people finally catching on to cloud rat
another band to watch that's currently touring is pyka from CT, fierce grindcore with femme/trans themes http://pyka.bandcamp.com/ holler @ it

Thanks for this, roxy; love that unhinged raging sound they've got.

Going for $90 for the Chicago show! Glad I managed to get a ticket already. xpost

Jesus, my fucking inbox. Today I got:

• the new Revocation (not too excited; the last album suck-diddly-ucked)
• the No Mercy reissue (much rawer than ST; Epic really sank some money into those guys in the late '80s, and it paid off)
• the new Job For A Cowboy (fucking amazing; they've gone full-on tech-death, lead bass and all - RIYL Atheist, Obscura, Decrepit Birth, et al.)
• the new Spiders (haven't listened yet, and they're probably my least favorite female fronted Scandinavian hard rock band, so it might have to wait a while)

So that explains why I've seen three JFAC posts on message boards in the past hour. Interesting. I can't decide if I like the initial track but it's undoubtedly better than anything from the album of theirs that I inexplicably bought at a Target.

http://www.metalsucks.net/2014/09/23/job-cowboy-release-new-single-announce-new-album/

Also heh at the top comment.

haha, that comment wins.

I've never been too moved by what little I've heard of Krallice or Castevet, and I've not heard Copremesis at all but apparently members of each of those have formed a thing that speaks my language -- weirdish dm of the Artificial Brain (and all their antecedents') variety.

https://soundcloud.com/blutige-magie/gath-smane-capillaries-of-augury

Actually that might be a little more straightforward than something like Artificial Brain.

Copremesis, however, from what I'm learning through youtube, is ... odd. Muay Thai Ladyboys, ya say.

sounds really good, and looks like it's Nick the Krallice bass guy plus the drummer from Castevet and then one other dude

ok I just listened to it 4 times in a row, it sure packs a lot of great stuff into 3 and a half minutes

kind of sounds like Bolzer played at 2x speed?