Doesn't seem that hard to me: U2 shows up in my phone shuffle, and I hate them, so fuck you Apple and U2. The fact Apple had to enact a fix just to let me get rid of the songs = album is worse than spam. The thought process that just because it was free means I have no right to complain about it, or even be grateful, is very typical of large corporations. They have an agenda, they push it, they deal with the consequences later (presumably after the money has been made). In this case, it looks like even Apple/U2 knows they screwed up.
― Dominique, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link
they deal with the consequences later (presumably after the money has been made)
i.e. there are no consequences
― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
i mean there's recalibration sure via the wrong people getting punished.
― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
x-post
from their perspective, none that matter nearly as much -- theoretical consequences like customer satisfaction, reputational loss don't usually stand in the way of big initiatives
― Dominique, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
oh my god you guys, U2 are on my spotify!
― Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link
NO ESCAPE
― sleeve, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link
they on my rdio, too!
― Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
they missed a trick IMO by not forcing this onto our devices & computers in Apple Lossless so that ppl who were making out their storage could be really fucked
― arthur treacher, or the fall of the british empire (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link
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― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link
How much to not get another U2 album?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 18:43 (nine years ago) link
applause xxp
― sleeve, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
I knew I bookmarked this thread for a reason
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― Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
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― plax (ico), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 19:20 (nine years ago) link
Let's be honest if it wasn't U2 and it wasn't shit even by their shitty standards, it wouldn't have pissed people off half as much.
― OutdoorFish, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link
Apple are proud to team up with Guns n' Roses
― Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link
Dunno. If Vampire Weekend had done this, 95% of the world would have gone 'huh?', but those final five percent would have been FURIOUS.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link
I think it would have gone down badly (if not as widely publicized) for any band because you couldn't initially get rid of the files. I think it would have been fine for U2 had they just given users the option of downloading the thing, instead of attaching it to their libraries, borg-style. In a way, they're trailblazers in this, because they taught every other band what NOT to do.
― Dominique, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link
loving everybody acting like extended family at christmas - "good lord, your nice cloud provider buys you a u2 album and all you can do is complain. you should be nicer to that conglomerate, or maybe next time they won't buy you anything."
― da croupier, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
why u hurt apple's feelings
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
They should've force fed the world a new Dr. Dre album. They already bought Dre anyway iirc.
― ambient yacht god (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
I thought you could get rid of the files, but you just couldn't get rid of the 'purchased' label?
― Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
― ambient yacht god (Le Bateau Ivre
nah forget about Dre
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link
Show some respect Alfred, he is - after all - still D.R.E.
― ambient yacht god (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link
re: “it isn’t a big deal—”
Apple isn’t Google or Facebook. 83-92% of Google’s revenue is advertising. Likewise, 88-94% of Facebook’s revenue is advertising. Less than 4% of Apple’s revenue is advertising. You can’t compare Apple with Google and Facebook when discussing privacy issues. They have completely different incentives.
― Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link
I guess it is now back to Metallica's turn to do something so publicly obnoxious that people find even more reasons to hate the band, since Kiss, Kanye and U2 have had their say for this quarter.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/metallica-to-issue-27-live-albums-by-end-of-2014-20140917
― da croupier, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link
In other Metallica news, the band recently set a Guinness World Record for touring, earning the distinction of being the first group to play all seven continents. "Seven continents in one year with Antarctica being the gig of a lifetime...." Frontman James Hetfield said in a statement earlier this month. "Yes, 120 scientists and competition winners. Not to mention the 300 very curious penguins!"
― da croupier, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:57 (nine years ago) link
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iRant—
I don’t think it’s a privacy issue. But it was stupid.
My impression is that middle-managers have wrecked Internet Software and Services—the unit behind iTunes and the iTunes Music Store.While the other teams, Software and Hardware Engineering, exist without management and retain strong engineers, Internet Software and Services hasn’t. Because they’ve been unable to foster a productive engineering culture, product management was introduced. It’s a mess.
Internet Services e.g. the App Store, iTunes and the iTunes Music Store, and Maps, should encourage culture, but they’ve become a wasteland of miss-matched priorities and technology that’s been adopted and abandoned. Apple Pay, iAds, and Messages share resources and priorities—that’s fucked up. And it’s unnecessary.
If Apple spun-out iTunes and the iTunes Music Store from Internet Software and Services, staffed it with engineers who are passionate about the product and music, and treated the unit as an equal to the other three groups, it never would’ve happened. No one would’ve said “Hey, wouldn’t it be cool if we downloaded a new U2 album onto everyone’s Mac, iPhone, and iPad?” It was dumb decision made by people disinterested in their product and especially disinterested in music.
Blah, blah, blah …
― Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 23:01 (nine years ago) link
LOL. Oops.
― Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 23:02 (nine years ago) link
nah, otm
― imago, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 23:03 (nine years ago) link
xxxposts but framing it as a privacy issue and pointing out that one well-dressed Facebook already knows where you're hiding just seems deliberately obtuse.
It's not about "privacy," it's about the illusion of control of my digital living room. Like it's fine if Spotify wants to recommend the shit out of Iggy Azalea but if you drop her into my favorites and make her unremoveable you've gone too far without compromising my privacy in any way.
It's a clumsy overreach on apple's part at a time when the optics on reminding us that the landlord can enter our cloud spaces and rearrange the furniture are particularly poor.
It's lol that it's U2 and whatever but that's really beside the point.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 18 September 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link
Apple should really do commercials based on this, just run with it comedically, like you get home from a long day at work and iggy azalea or U2 or biebs or vampire weekend is just chilling in your living room, eating a bag of chips or whatever.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 18 September 2014 02:29 (nine years ago) link
I downloaded the album to my device today. I didn't realize that I was only streaming it before. So apple invaded my digital space with a few 10s of kBs of metadata.
― fruit ← ⟨“apple”, “banana”, “orange”⟩ (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 September 2014 02:50 (nine years ago) link
hey look, free dog shit i threw into your front window!
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 18 September 2014 02:51 (nine years ago) link
Would have made so much more sense to put it on the iTunes store for $0.00.
And yeah, I'm going 100% McLuhan because the medium is definitely dictating this message. If it's just going to be a free iTunes download, why even bother making an effort. Like everyone else, it feels like they procrastinated until the night before and then pulled an all-nighter. World peace or else indeed - sucker.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 September 2014 03:18 (nine years ago) link
Were the files put on your hard drive?
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 18 September 2014 03:24 (nine years ago) link
people must be really pissed when they receive email attachments
― fruit ← ⟨“apple”, “banana”, “orange”⟩ (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 September 2014 03:45 (nine years ago) link
Nope. I was genuinely curious to hear the new U2 album. Too bad that it feels like a b-side comp.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 18 September 2014 03:49 (nine years ago) link
'Raised by Wolves' is a jam
― fruit ← ⟨“apple”, “banana”, “orange”⟩ (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 September 2014 03:53 (nine years ago) link
I hate how 'This is Where You Can Reach Me Now' sounds like every Danger Mouse produced track ever, though.
― fruit ← ⟨“apple”, “banana”, “orange”⟩ (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 September 2014 03:55 (nine years ago) link
Oh, great. Now they also want to make their own Pono.
http://time.com/3393297/u2-apple-new-digital-format/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:13 (nine years ago) link
I love how the final three paragraphs are nothing but a dull financial report with a bit of gloss, but my favorite moment is this pathetic paranthetical:
(It bears repetition: many, many people really, really like U2.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 September 2014 12:32 (nine years ago) link
Oh it turns out it's an audiovisual format. BOUND TO SUCCEED.
http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/09/u2-and-apple-working-on-new-digital-format-that-will-tempt-people-into-buying-music-again/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 September 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link
It depended on the user’s iTunes Match configuration. It automatically downloaded on my Macs.
― fruit ← ⟨“apple”, “banana”, “orange”⟩ (Sufjan Grafton)
LOL
― Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 18 September 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link
speaking of bad analogies:
“It’s like everyone’s vomiting whatever their first impression is,” said Clayton at one point.
― katherine, Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link
"Ooh, Betty! Bleurgh!"
― Mark G, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:03 (nine years ago) link
oh man just wait until people start vomiting their fully formed opinionsx-post
― willem, Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link