I stand, throwing my arms in the air. “Who is this for? Whose life does this fit into?” I ask.
― Nhex, Saturday, 13 September 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
new b
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 14 September 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link
.. oard description
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 14 September 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link
Had a really fun multiplayer experience last night.
People have mentioned that the game doesn't start until level 20, but actually level 20 is a soft level cap. Once you get there, you can only improve your level by getting better loot and upgrading it, so advancing becomes even more loot-dependent than you might guess initially.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
I'm into this game, but I still can't get over how little loot there is, considering that the entire game after the soft level cap (took me 12-14 hrs to get to lvl 20) is a loot grind. You grind out the dumb currencies you need to buy legendary armour, then you grind up the armour, then you do it again, forever. I don't have any legendaries yet and probably won't even become eligible to buy some for a week or more of schlepping through playlists.
The gameplay is really fun, so the whole enterprise probably won't become a big drag anytime too soon, but you compare it to Diablo or Borderlands and there doesn't seem to be enough incremental progression to really hook you. The differences between the weapons and armour sets aren't much, or aren't obvious, and functionally speaking it can be hours of gameplay in between meaningful loot drops/purchases. Who needs that? Not to mention that the weapons and armour all level up, so switching from a maxed-out weapon or piece of armour to a new, "better" one usually means a slight stat/function REDUCTION. So improving your shit doesn't really feel fun at all, or at least not with any of the immediacy that makes these games worth playing. The way Destiny is set up it literally feels like WORK to make real progress. "Just two more hours and I can afford that new pair of gloves I've had my eye on..."
― antexit, Thursday, 18 September 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
i was reading about that first raid they just released, looks interesting. just not rly into the time-consuming thing of mmorpgs. lol @ poopsock
― 💻 👀 (am0n), Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
I sort of like that the loot is harder to come by. In Borderlands I constantly was throwing away stuff that I just got, but in this game there is a real benefit to sticking with a particular gun or piece of armor. And when you outgrow it you can still put it in the vault for your other characters. And yeah, your non-upgraded stuff won't be as good initially, it's true.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 18 September 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link
"other characters," god forbid
― antexit, Sunday, 21 September 2014 23:52 (nine years ago) link
I'm up to level 21 now. This article is verrrry otm
http://killscreendaily.com/articles/destiny-mayve-fixed-loot-cave-game-still-broken
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
I'm just behind you, few light points away from 21. Even though the story was guff I do feel like a big chunk of my motivation vanished when I got to the end of it. Does seem like it's grind-only from here on, and so far it's still fun grind but I don't know how long I'll stay interested.
― JimD, Friday, 3 October 2014 12:11 (nine years ago) link
OK I am about done with this game. It's just too punishing and time-consuming to make progress after level 20. A game like Diablo or Borderlands, you get better equipment based on RNG-based drops or beating increasingly-difficult bosses or some combination of both. There's always this feeling of incremental progress. In this game, I GUESS the progress is incremental, but, god, the increments!
I like to use the handgun as a primary weapon, and there's this very good legendary handgun I see people using. So after god knows how long accomplishing NOTHING grinding toward the legendary armour that you can't progress without, the RNG dropped me what I thought was this handgun. Yay! But no, it's a fucking quest to get the handgun wherein I have to spend 5 hours farming kills on a specific planet, AND THEN have to get 500 kills with a .75 r/d USING A SPECIFIC KIND OF DAMAGE ONLY, AND I HAVE ONLY ONE WEAPON THAT DEALS THIS KIND OF DAMAGE AND IT SUCKS, and THEN apparently beat some insanely difficult level that is not even possible to beat except in a party and the level doesn't offer auto matchmaking. For a casual player that's like 20 hours of grinding which counts toward nothing whatsoever in the game EXCEPT this weapon, and how good could this weapon possibly be and I'm fucking sorry but forget it man later for this.
When I turned it off I started playing Diablo and got three legendaries that impact the gameplay hugely in the first 10 minutes.
― antexit, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
That's 500 kills with a .75 r/d in PvP, I should add. That's like a mandatory 10 hours in PvP, so you can progress toward a weapon that is useless in PvP because the auto-rifle is so OP.
― antexit, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link
yeah thus far i have not been blown away by this aside from the technical accomplishment (i'm a v casual player tho and only at level 7)
esp since i've played a couple hours of BL2 in the last week with a buddy at home and was like oh damn this is fun
― gbx, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
You want Destiny to be like Borderlands but the fact is it's much more like WoW (I gather, never having played WoW). A slow-o-o-o-ow grind, which actually feels more like real-life drudgery than true action RPGs do. Action RPGs make me feel like a Skinner rat pursuing endlessly larger cheese morsels, whereas MMORPGs are more like having a paper route or selling magazine subscriptions, inching ever closer to the air rifle you're saving for.
― antexit, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
the lack of matchmaking alone seems ill-conceived
― kernel poo (am0n), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link
Action RPGs make me feel like a Skinner rat pursuing endlessly larger cheese morsels, whereas MMORPGs are more like having a paper route or selling magazine subscriptions, inching ever closer to the air rifle you're saving for.
― antexit, Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:51 PM
lol this is awesome
― kernel poo (am0n), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link
why did i buy this
― am0n, Friday, 16 January 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link
Was just about to ask if I should buy this
― tsrobodo, Friday, 16 January 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link
its not bad, v pretty but dull and god dinklage stfu
― am0n, Friday, 16 January 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link
i feel like i got my money's worth out of it even tho i dropped it as soon as i hit the level cap, however i am notoriously bad with money
― adam, Friday, 16 January 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link
I put a lot of time into this, but once the expansion pack more or less ended my ability to progress further without spending any more money on the game, there was no reason to continue.
I've never had the opportunity to do a raid (level 26) because I don't want to join a guild and add a shitload of random Destiny fans to my friend list. Until raids have matchmaking built in there's not much else you can do to progress at that level other than playing the same stuff you've played over and over again with a few added gameplay wrinkles.
― polyphonic, Friday, 16 January 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
this game fucking blows
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 16 January 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
DENTISTRY
― am0n, Friday, 16 January 2015 21:47 (nine years ago) link
im lvl 17, still not hating or loving it but playing w/ friends has been fun. they rly need to let you skip cutscenes
― am0n, Friday, 23 January 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link
allow me to me reiterate:
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
I like it *shrug*
― polyphonic, Friday, 23 January 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
i don't mess with either fps or multiplayer games very often so it fills that gap for me i guess
― am0n, Friday, 23 January 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
yeah i can't do gun games unless they're sci-fi or deeply absurd
― polyphonic, Friday, 23 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
the problem for me is that the mechanics are sublime, which makes the appalling story, paucity of content and endless grind all the more disappointing
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 23 January 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link
I wish more games had barely any story and great mechanics. Personal preference I guess.
I mean don't get me wrong this game is a B at best. The content/grind issues are undeniable. But the maps are good, the gameplay is good ... when you start getting exotics/legendaries in the 20s even the grind seems moderately worth it. I love all the weird currencies and materials. I love Xur.
And considering how many games these days are broken on day one, I will take a game that works great but needs more content over a game with lots of content that doesn't work. The early levels have way more stuff in them now than they did on day 1. If they keep adding stuff, they have a pretty solid foundation to build on.
― polyphonic, Friday, 23 January 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
i am unexpectedly enjoying the end game stuff despite the story/dialogue/content. at 26 now and considering the dlc. i suppose i'd have to join a clan to get fully hooked in. i can't even buy stuff from xur yet but i like talking to him
― am0n, Monday, 2 February 2015 18:44 (nine years ago) link
Did you buy the expansion?
― polyphonic, Monday, 2 February 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
not yet, i was holding out to level higher first
― am0n, Monday, 2 February 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYzQl4xeKuw
i was holding out to level higher first
From what I understand that's the wrong way to do it, you'll end up working to upgrade gear which will then be superseded by expansion-only equipment, which you'll need to upgrade all over again. So if you're going to play the expansion (which I'm not) then I get the impression it's best to jump on it sooner rather than later.
― JimD, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 10:26 (nine years ago) link
i think that only applies to exotics which i don't have yet (the dlc resets any exotic upgrades to the new upgrade system(?!?)). from the start you're upgrading things that will soon be garbage anyway. also the expansion can't even be touched until you're 24 or higher. i grabbed it last night as i'm nearing 28 ;]
― am0n, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
i fully understand the hate and frustration with the game which makes my enjoyment of it all the more unexplainable
― am0n, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
i fully understand the enjoyment of the game which makes my hate and frustration with it all the more unexplainable
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link
we're a mobius strip
― am0n, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
i think that only applies to exotics which i don't have yet (the dlc resets any exotic upgrades to the new upgrade system(?!?)). from the start you're upgrading things that will soon be garbage anyway. also the expansion can't even be touched until you're 24 or higher. i grabbed it last night as i'm nearing 28
I didn't get the dlc but did get the new exotics system. I think it was just part of a recent update.
What system are you playing on, amon? I should probably at least take a stab at the vault of glass sometime but I have refused to do any work on finding a guild for some reason.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link
I used all my old upgraded weapons on my second playthrough :[
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link
ps4. i was going to start another class and keep old stuff to transfer but always ended up discarding everything cuz the inventory gets full quick. i accidentally tried vault of glass w/ a 2 people last night and we got nowhere
― am0n, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link
i'm not sure if i'll ever play this game but it's one of the best thread titles on ILX
― Nhex, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link
Played some of this at my friends' yesterday, and it was really fun! Looked amazing too, it's crazy something looks like this good hardware almost 10 years old.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 22 February 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link
*fart*
― 😂 (am0n), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link
all of you are probably wondering, how's that awesome new destiny dlc? well it added several new story missions. cool, new stuff to look at, right?!?!... no they take place in the same areas as the other story missions you've run through thousands of times but, this time you run through them backwards! moral: don't buy this shitty game.
― 😂 (am0n), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link
lol. i am tempted often to get this, as it's been dropping to around $20 for the base game. better off to wait for the inevitable GOTY?
― Nhex, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link
the new modes are at least a departure from before and they've removed some of the grindy gear leveling aspects (no more ascendant mats required to get your gear to max) which i think is a step in the right dir. also been having trouble deciding if the game is any fun lately so it's a mixed bag
― head clowning instructor (art), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link
new modes also don't do matchmaking afaik so the game kinda requires you to have 2+ friends who also play / rely on the lfg websites
― head clowning instructor (art), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link
also first dlc seems now to have been a waste of $20 once the second one was released, not sure you need it for any endgame purpose
― head clowning instructor (art), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link
Hi friends.
I bought Destiny 2 at launch, played it for one night, and then never touched it again.
Finally gave it a fair chance a couple nights ago--have sunk in maybe 7-10 hours since then. Really enjoying it. Anyone still playing? Anyone have any tips for new players?
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link
The game has changed a lot since I was playing it (pre-Forsaken). Sounds like the progression system is completely different.
https://www.pcgamer.com/destiny-2-beginners-guide/
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
Alright, I'm roughly 30-35 hours into playing.
It's almost impossible to figure out the weapon/armor system on your own, and even reading tutorials isn't that helpful. I've hit softcap, but someone basically told me not to mess around with the upgrade system until I get closer to 950.
However, the game is fucking great and so much fun to play. The gunplay is good, hanging with the boys on Discord and grinding powerful rewards is great, and the grind itself feels satisfying. The environments are captivating and beautiful. I'm happy I took the plunge.
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Monday, 28 October 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link