that's the thing though, i don't think anyone cares about the tapes themselves, it's more like a limited edition souvenir for the digital music you want to support?
i guess the exception is super niche/underground tape labels that don't even do a digital release.
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 11 September 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link
are records actually more expensive than they used to be (when adjusted for inflation?)I remember reading that Tusk had a high list price of $16 in 1979 (which would be $55 in 2014). So what was normal then? $12 would be $41, $10 would be $34
― mizzell, Thursday, 11 September 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link
What does "cares about" mean here? Beyond having a souvenir of music you want to support?
― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 11 September 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link
like, i don't know anyone who's digging for old cassettes because they love the format. the main appeal is that it's a cheap way for current artists to make a physical, non-digital product.
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 11 September 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
are records actually more expensive than they used to be (when adjusted for inflation?)whole reason i started buying new vinyl in the 90s was because I could get an album for $8-9 as opposed to $15 for the CD.
― tylerw, Thursday, 11 September 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link
t'other way round now
and i love it.
― mark e, Thursday, 11 September 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link
oh i think there are def people who fetishize cassettes for more than just cool souvenirs
there are def lots of noise(y) bands that release stuff only on cassette and not, at least not initially, on digital... although everything makes its way to digital now anyhow, doesn't it?
some new vinyl isn't terribly expensive, but a lot of it is. major label stuff, esp. reissue vinyl, is esp. pricey. i don't bother.
was recently in a great vinyl-only place in tennessee. great guy runs it. i bought $200 worth of records, we talked for an hour, good times. i told him i still buy CDs and don't think the format is any worse than vinyl and he looked at me like i was talking about tuning in martians with my tin-foil hat. people have drunk the Kool Aid, just as people drunk another flavor of Kool Aid when they disposed of all their vinyl and started replacing them with poorly-mastered CDs in the 1980s.
the joke is on them (whoever "them" are), again.
i'm listening to bitchitronics right now. on MP3! it's good.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2014 05:53 (nine years ago) link
vinyl is better for selling. i bought a LP for $7 a few months ago, just sold it on eBay for $150. harder to do that with CDs. though not impossible. in that respect, vinyl wins.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2014 05:54 (nine years ago) link
funny conversation b/c i feel like this band would be up my alley except for the fact that they're on drag city and therefore aren't on spotify and therefore i have to make an EFFORT to listen to them. which i will! but then again, maybe i won't!
― jaymc, Friday, 12 September 2014 05:55 (nine years ago) link
you can listen to some stuff here
http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2014/09/10/bitchin-bajas-cave-release/
also their soundcloud
not too much effort!
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2014 06:47 (nine years ago) link
good point, thanks!
― jaymc, Friday, 12 September 2014 06:57 (nine years ago) link
hi!
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 12 September 2014 07:02 (nine years ago) link
― jaymc, Friday, 12 September 2014 07:06 (nine years ago) link
Standing against the anti-artist digital advancements embodied by streaming services, the download code etc and managing to have a dialogue about it with dissenting consumers feels like an achievement.
Wait, where is this dialogue taking place? Because there's a pretty huge leap between Spotify and giving paying customers bang for their buck.
I wonder about some of the artists and whether they care either way - Ty Segall's put out records on a bunch of labels; I bought the vinyl for his In the Red and Castle Face LPs, but skipped the Drag City ones on wax. I listen to this shit on my way to and from work, you know?
― Your Ribs are My Ladder, Friday, 12 September 2014 10:06 (nine years ago) link
I think the artists probably respect what Drag City wants to do but mostly aren't hard-liners (my guess only though). Ben Chasny's new label, Hermit Hut, provided a download code with the Tashi Dorji album, so he isn't riding the party line of his highest-profile label.
― grandavis, Friday, 12 September 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link
the whole download code w/ vinyl thing seems so silly to me since if you just bought the CD you could not only play it in your car but fairly easily rip it to MP3. but buying CDs seems anathema to a lot of folks now.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 13 September 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link
just download and burn, it's not a big deal
― brimstead, Sunday, 14 September 2014 02:42 (nine years ago) link
mail the band a check or something if you feel bad about it
― brimstead, Sunday, 14 September 2014 02:43 (nine years ago) link
I used to like spend time looking for downloads, but spotify has made me like soooooo lazy. Like if it's not on spotify, I feel like okay we'll there are like twelve dozen million other things I could be listening to instead. So like ok sorry your loss
― jaymc, Sunday, 14 September 2014 07:11 (nine years ago) link
i'm sure they'll get by
― a cheese has occurred (electricsound), Sunday, 14 September 2014 07:19 (nine years ago) link
Hi
― jaymc, Sunday, 14 September 2014 07:23 (nine years ago) link
this record kicks ass. 'a rainbow in curved air' redux.
― initials creaky BB (haitch), Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link
it's a grower
― outback bumfuc (electricsound), Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:12 (nine years ago) link
It is pretty fucking good.
― tylerw, Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:27 (nine years ago) link
Yup.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 October 2014 01:34 (nine years ago) link
cd please
― the late great, Sunday, 5 October 2014 02:28 (nine years ago) link
ok so i found a youtube from 2012
― jaymc, Sunday, 5 October 2014 06:17 (nine years ago) link
"bajas ragas." p. tasty.
haha i am getting dead can dance vibes. righteous.
― jaymc, Sunday, 5 October 2014 06:18 (nine years ago) link
also that one song on syro with the tribal drums lol
ok now a new one
― jaymc, Sunday, 5 October 2014 06:22 (nine years ago) link
they were so rad at Hypnotikon last night
― JoeStork, Sunday, 16 November 2014 07:35 (nine years ago) link
s/t full-length is.....so good.
also, this soundcloud only live mix is pretty nice, too. fits perfectly on a 45-min tape if you're into that thing:https://soundcloud.com/bitchin-bajas/live-fall-2014-side-a-chicago-cultural-center-gar-rotunda-inclusion-water-4-going-homehttps://soundcloud.com/bitchin-bajas/live-fall-2014-side-b-evergreen-stairwell-bainbridge-island-washington-guimaraes-portugal
new 12" out in May...!
― dronestreet, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 13:57 (nine years ago) link
oh sweet, haven't heard those live things. yeah, was just listening to the s/t album. amazing. there's also thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTiC6ce5Dws
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
New EP in May, IIRC.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link
maybe they'll make everyone angry and release it only as a 3-inch CD single
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 14:35 (nine years ago) link
I think it's on cassette! I received an email, it's a French release.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link
haha, are the bitchin bajas making kids cry on side B of this live thing or is it part of the composition? either way, pretty awesome.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link
New EP is limited cassette (100) and vinyl (600): http://handsinthedarkrecords.com/
Did anyone get a copy of that Live at the Hideout triple cassette? Been wanting to hear that but missed snagging one before they were gone...
And I wondered about the kids crying too -- it really sounds like it was someone inside the space, haha.
― dronestreet, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
Here's a track from said new EP, just shared out:
https://soundcloud.com/hitd-3/bitchin-bajas-marimba
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
sounds great -- could be fooled into thinking it was a pre-Autobahn Kraftwerk track...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
Geez they really can get away with anything!
― groundless round (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:02 (nine years ago) link
new EP is great...more synth-driven/electronic/cold departure from the double LP last year.
they sounded pretty excellent on tour as well...really at the top of the game right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU3hInFCTfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEHXrsISHx0
― dronestreet, Monday, 1 June 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link
oh, and new collaborative full-length in august! sounds good: they were saying they tracked it live in the studio, so it should have a different flavor than the recent overdub-focused/tape loop sessions:http://www.dragcity.com/products/automaginary
― dronestreet, Monday, 1 June 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link
New track up from forthcoming (collaborative) LP:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxIJ3oT_LaQ
― dronestreet, Friday, 24 July 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link
https://s3.amazonaws.com/delivery.midheaven.com/a/133146/images/781484062615_main.jpg
out yesterday! yes, i got a copy. it's more organic/warm sounding, in the vein of the s/t double-LP, rather than the more electronic feel of transporteur.
― dronestreet, Sunday, 30 August 2015 03:06 (eight years ago) link
That track above is somewhere between, like, On The Corner, Yatha Sidhra and Vibracathedral Orchestra. Very nice.
― We Boo... The Cross (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 30 August 2015 08:14 (eight years ago) link
I can't wait to hear this whole thing! Joshua Abrams is a local treasure and I get a stronger rhythmic feel from BBs with him (& all of his people) around. I hope they play together (at least locally) to support this album!
― La Lechera, Sunday, 30 August 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link
I think this is pretty great, and a nice counterpoint to Transporteur. Would def. drive to Chicago to see them play together!
I get super heavy Pelt vibes from the A-side; and I have no problem with that whatsoever.
― dronestreet, Thursday, 3 September 2015 00:16 (eight years ago) link
Big Abrams fan here and imo this is just the latest in a fantastic run of albums. Dude is positively on fire right now. All three of those Eremite LPs are so great. Could take or leave BB but I like the spirit of this collab.
― Wimmels, Thursday, 3 September 2015 00:45 (eight years ago) link