A POLL IN A CAGE ON ANTIBIOTICS - ILM Artist Poll #56 - RADIOHEAD - RESULTS THREAD

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had four place today, up to six now.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 06:03 (nine years ago) link

Iron Lung is the song I didn't vote for that immediately lodged itself in my head after I'd sent my ballot. Is it a proto Paranoid Android? The wig-out-y bits feel very similar to me in isolation, though I've not played them back-to-back.

I thought very hard about whether to vote for High & Dry, because I used to adore it, and I do still love that kick drum sound in the intro. In the end it was a toss-up between that and Fake Plastic Trees, and I decided to go for the latter, just because it feels a little more sophisticated and therefore rewarding longterm strcuturally.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 08:01 (nine years ago) link

A great run here.

Iron Lung is my favourite song on The Bends and the song that sold Radiohead to me as more than just a post-grunge one hit wonder. I was pretty much obsessed with it as a teenager and spent years trying to perfect the intro riff on guitar. Voted it high at #3.

Despite the much-discussed sequencing issues on more recent Radiohead albums, they certainly know how to start and finish a record and that clutch of finishing tracks that came up is brilliant.

Wolf at the Door is excellent and creepy and kind of violent and I like the arpeggiated keys.
Voted Life In a Glasshouse high too: every so often Radiohead will surrender to pastiche, but in this case they use the Louis Armstrong-esque brass blues sound to maximal effect. They could stand to do more songs a bit like this.

And how can anyone not like The Tourist? Some have said it's an anticlimax, but it's the perfect closer for OKC for me - that feeling of inertia, clinical and airtight despite Thom insisting we 'slow down'. chap - I listen to the Easy Star version of OKC almost exclusively now, partly because I've heard the R'head version so many times and partly because the songs just work so well in dub mode.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 08:59 (nine years ago) link

The other thing that makes me feel as though 'Knives Out' is a retread of old material, as well as recycling the guitar part from Paranoid Android, the opening line sounds like Thom's about to sing 'I waant yoou to know (tice).. when I'm... not arouuund'

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 09:01 (nine years ago) link

'Kid A' was the first thing I heard off the album - they were playing it in Time Records in Colchester on the day of release - and although I'd come to the shop expressly so I could buy it, I couldn't help but feel a mixture of excitement and disappointment.

On one hand my reaction was 'Wow, Radiohead are making music that sounds like THIS!' on the other, it did feel very heavily indebted to the Warp Records stuff I'd been getting into at the time and coupled with the TDR-friendly packaging (remember the secret booklet behind the CD caddy?) I couldn't help feeling my favourite rock band were in danger of parroting certain electronic music tropes and doing it badly. It took me quite a while to understand just how much more there was going on on Kid A (the album) than that. I'm still a bit hot and cold on Radiohead's more overt forays into electronica - sometimes it reminds me of when metal bands attempt to 'go techno' or slightly dodgy industrial music... Well maybe not that bad but still things like Eraser, Pulk/Pull, Kid A and a lot of King Of Limbs do little for me beyond making me feel slightly embarrassed.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 09:20 (nine years ago) link

My issue with their overt forays into full-on electronica was always that they didn't mix and master things like the people they were aping; they mixed and mastered things like a rock band, and a lot of the really subtle synaesthetic joy I get from Warp artists, Orbital, etc etc, comes in the way things were mixed and mastered so that they sounded so different from rock music. And this was phenomenologically like rock music, even as it aesthetically moved away from that.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:05 (nine years ago) link

At least to my ears, that is.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:05 (nine years ago) link

It could be that. All I associate with TKOL is awkward clacketty twiggy rhythms that don't really propel the songs any one way or the other. The songs have a lot of potential but there's barely any oomph in the production. It ends up feeling a bit like a rock band's impression of what electronic/dance-based music is. OTOH when they get the balance right (thinking about Idioteque especially) it works really well.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:17 (nine years ago) link

Never got Idioteque. Didn't vote for it.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:22 (nine years ago) link

I like it, but even Idioteque can feel a bit like it's missing a certain essential frequency that even the most average dance/electronic acts would include by default. Makes me realise how often I find myself complaining about this problem - recent work by Animal Collective and Arcade Fire also do this - in which big art-rock bands decide they're going to adopt an electronic influence but somehow find themselves unwilling or unable to inject the same lifeblood into their productions as their influences do. These guys are all clearly listening to avant-electronica, techno, dub/bass music etc, but why their productions all too often end up sounding so thin and ricketty is anyone's guess. Maybe, as Mouthy says, it's all down to mixing/mastering habits?

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 11:34 (nine years ago) link

I wonder if we're likely to expect any more b-sides - especially ones form the pre-Kid A era? I'm especially fond of Talk Show Host, Bishops Robes, A Reminder and Melatonin but I doubt these'll get very high at all.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:00 (nine years ago) link

I think 'Talk Show Host' is in with a chance.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:08 (nine years ago) link

Is Talk Show Host Gazza's favourite Radiohead song?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link

Worrywort's probably gonna make it. Lots of people talking about it in the voting thread.

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:39 (nine years ago) link

Also, I voted a non-album track at number 2, so hopefully that one comes through.

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:39 (nine years ago) link

As tracks in the lower echelons of this poll regularly have 1 or 2 #1 votes, I'm not so sure it will

willem, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:42 (nine years ago) link

Speaking of non-album tracks I really hope Supercollider and Staircase make it, looking less and less likely at this point.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:07 (nine years ago) link

I had 'The Tourist' as my #1 but the other two album closers in the last batch have never been favourites of mine - my own edited-down version of HTTT finishes with 'Scatterbrain' which works nicely I think, it lets a bit of light back in.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:24 (nine years ago) link

can I belatedly say "In Limbo" is a gorgeous, gorgeous song

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:27 (nine years ago) link

It is, but one which doesn't really work in isolation for me.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:29 (nine years ago) link

It only just made it onto my ballot but yeah it really is lovely. Great vocal.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:34 (nine years ago) link

It's a shame we couldn't have a side projects poll
Band Aid 20 ftw

nxd, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/26BBdHY.jpg

25. 15 Step [20 votes | 1 #1 vote | 411 points]

nate woolls, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link

My number 1. I adore this song.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link

Herky jerky rhythms; too clever for its own good reference to 2 step except, you know, smarter; not quite awkward enough not to fall apart completely; and do I detect a hint of warmth in there? Yup it's Radio head in 2007.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link

i believe i had 15 step at #3 in the end. compulsively listened to it when IR first came out

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

I don't love it, but there's something satisfying about the way the drums and guitar lock together.

jmm, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/MxUcWfL.jpg

24. Optimistic [18 votes | 1 #1 vote | 427 points]

nate woolls, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link

Like many I can't really unlock In Limbo and Optimistic from each other. That second part of Kid A is just too good to split up. But I really like Optimistic. The sort of background organy sound during the 'try the best you can' part really does it for me.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link

"Optimistic" has one of my favorite moments on Kid A, in fact, one of my favorite moments in Radiohead's oeuvre: the slight, nervous uptick in tempo near the end.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link

I love Radiohead's rhythm section and 15 Step shows them off perfectly. I love the way it starts with it's electronic bait and switch, and the way the live groove then falls in. I adore the little punctum bits when the kids voices come in ever so slightly.

Can't remember if Optimistic made my ballot. I like it, but I think there are similar examples of this kind of thing - krauty, nervous, tense - that they've done which I prefer.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

No, you didn't vote for it.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/hBl7nEi.jpg

23. Talk Show Host [20 votes | 431 points]

nate woolls, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link

Optimistic was my #1. To me it's the most representative song of the band, and it consistently sounds amazing live.

Eggs and the marketing board behind them, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/yxTGxrz.jpg

22. Weird Fishes/Arpeggi [20 votes | 1 #1 vote | 452 points]

nate woolls, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

Ah great to see Talk Show Host there. Didn't know it was a fan fave. Was it in a film or something?

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link

Yeah Romeo + Juliet I think.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link

I didn't vote for Talk Show Host instead I plumped for its neighbour on the single, Bishops Robes, but they're of a piece in my mind

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

I love the end section of Optimistic where they finally start rocking out with massive cymbal crashes after the twitchy nervinous most of the song. Terrific release. Also one of Yorke's best lyrics I think.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

TSH has one of my favourite lines of his as well: "I'll be waiting with a gun and a pack of sandwiches".

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link

Yeah great line. And it kind of precedes OKC with some of those nice electronic flourishes too

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link

AFAICR it came out between OKC and Kid A, which makes sense.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

It was a b-side of "Street Spirit (Fade Out)" in early 1996.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link

Ha, shows what I know.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

Weird fishes was my #2. This is far too low, ILM, you should be ashamed of yourself

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

I've always thought of it as a bridge from TB to OKC.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

It was a b-side of "Street Spirit (Fade Out)" in early 1996.

Speaking of which..

http://i.imgur.com/oefjLbc.jpg

21. Street Spirit (Fade Out) [21 votes | 1 #1 vote | 471 points]

nate woolls, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link

weird fishes is a beautiful song. gives me all of the feelings.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

I liked it a lot upon IR's release. I think the "IR is booooring" folks got to me with that one.

wolves at doors: they flan @ u face (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link

Street Spirit is amazing and deserves to be top 10 ;_;

wolves at doors: they flan @ u face (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link


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