A POLL IN A CAGE ON ANTIBIOTICS - ILM Artist Poll #56 - RADIOHEAD - RESULTS THREAD

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i don't know how common this is, but for me Kid A onward definitely diminished what came before, which was perhaps not deliberate although you could at least say self-fulfilled. i loved actually all three of the first albums at the time and i can tap into that still but there is a tinge of embarrassment, albeit faint.

there was a tinge of embarrassment to Creep about a minute into Planet Telex tho.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 10:40 (nine years ago) link

someone mentioned japan above who are an interesting comparative. maybe if you were a japan fan at the time Quiet Life would've made you like the first two albums less. personally my record collection back then consisted of one keith harris and orville 7" so i can't say, but looking back it is hard to imagine because early japan also rules.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 10:49 (nine years ago) link

"I railed against them for years, I think now, simply because they were the band that everyone expected me to like."

This is also my experience. I've come to see how toxic b/c merely reactive it is for my appreciation of the arts, but I've struggled with this since I was a nerdy kid and everyone expected me to like classical music and I became a pop fan instead. Things have gotten better but my popism, such as it is, can't be separated from a fuck you against my peers.

Euler, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 10:52 (nine years ago) link

just to add something in support of Jigsaw: it's one of those every-so-often moments that sheds light on how far these guys have come as songwriters. back in the Bends days, the band would have opted for the sudden crescendo, upping the drama through impetuous guitar noise. but Jigsaw builds to its exhilarating climax, and exacts this climax, through tension and restraint; the instruments sound clenched, like they're tending the same delimiting ground for the duration of the song. the final, ascending passage plays out within the concentrated sphere of what's come before, it's just that the intensity has almost reached breaking point. but not quite. the song develops in an organic fashion, whilst paying respect to each and every ingredient that goes into it, preserving a certain consistency from start to finish. that, to me, is one of the hallmarks of great writing.

charlie h, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 11:52 (nine years ago) link

Calling IR 'sprawling' is the maddest and most inaccurate slight about it I've read yet.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 11:56 (nine years ago) link

Well no, it's just someone else's different reaction to a record. Not relating to id doesn't make it mad or inaccurate.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 12:01 (nine years ago) link

Fair enough, was being slightly hyperbolic. It sounds very concise and well sequenced to me though.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 12:13 (nine years ago) link

I'll stop now, most Radiohead threads seem to devolve into circular discussions of the merits of In Rainbows at some point (and I'm certainly part of the problem).

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 12:15 (nine years ago) link

Sometimes I feel as though Radiohead have got it in them to make a proper album one day.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 12:56 (nine years ago) link

Jigsaw is my ikkle bro's favourite Radiohead song and I'm inclined to say it is totally excellent.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 13:00 (nine years ago) link

'The Bends' and 'Bones' are def my least favourite songs on the 2nd album. 'The Bends' especially, could have easily been taken from Pablo Honey.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link

i can't listen to anything of The Bends these days except Planet Telex

charlie h, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link

off

charlie h, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 14:05 (nine years ago) link

The biggest problem with jigsaw is that they decided to fade the song out (?) in the middle of Jonny's guitar solo (!?)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link

The big climactic end section has great chords and a great arrangement, but Thom's voice sounds oddly pinched and weedy in it, which ruins the whole effect.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link

This band, if they could only overcome these multiple stylistic and creative hurdles we're all pointing out, they could be quite the success.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link

it's a fantastic vocal line. the singing itself might be a bit underpowered, yeah.

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lol Scik Mouthy

charlie h, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/FyPvvQO.jpg

40. High and Dry [12 votes | 243 points]

nate woolls, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link

O_O at high and dry...being voted for

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:50 (nine years ago) link

lol

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link

High and Dry is great forever.

jmm, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

I've heard it so many times I never deliberately play it, but when it comes on the iPod on shuffle I still love it.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link

Hoping for an impassioned defense of High and Dry, because really?

olly, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

creep and high and dry are fine songs that people would still like if they were done by some rando 90s indie band

iatee, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

"They're the ooo-uuhh-ooones who'll spit at you..."

jmm, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link

is The Place Beyond the Pines based on High and Dry?

wolves at doors: they flan @ u face (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link

the thing with high and dry is that it sounds like the soundtrack to a mid-90s friends type of tv show, a special episode where one of the characters breaks up and is heartbroken or something, and there's a brief 45-second montage of the character looking out the window and being sad juxtaposed with shots of the other characters leading their happy lives - and during all of this the instrumental ending (the shitty guitar solo) of high and dry is playing

also coldplay

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link

but it is sad. he can only fuck now. he has lost the ability to make love.

wolves at doors: they flan @ u face (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:05 (nine years ago) link

"High And Dry" was recorded during the Pablo Honey sessions but was dismissed by the band, who thought that it sounded like a Rod Stewart song.

surely by now they should have realized this is a pro

iatee, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/YSCxcU5.jpg

39. Nude [13 votes | 282 points]

nate woolls, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link

if you squint really hard, during high and dry you can teleport into the brain of chris martin in 1996. he's listening to the bends and he's obsessed and he loves it. but somehow it's slippery, he can't quite figure it out. but then in the midst of listening to high and dry yet again, he says "this is who i am, also. i can do this". then he starts writing songs that are slightly slower and even worse than high and dry and becomes a global popstar

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

"They're the ooo-uuhh-ooones who'll spit at you..."

― jmm

When I listened to The Bends recently this bit really grated on me. Same on The Bends when he sings "I wish it was the sixties, I wish I could be happy, I wish, I wish" It's moments like those that made the album seem almost as dated as Pablo Honey.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:09 (nine years ago) link

yeah but i love his delivery of "screaming ouuut"

"high and dry" is definitely the most fun song to sing on the bends (maybe actually tied with "black star" though)

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link

Didn't make my ballot, and it's not a highlight of The Bends for me, but the bass drum sound on the intro is glorious.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

Love Nude.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

Didn't vote, but hoping that Airbag will place well in the tracks.

Great British Bog-Off (Mr Andy M), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link

I voted for High and Dry, still love the guitar solo and the vocals even if the lyrics are a bit cringeworthy.

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

But yeah, you can definitely trace the emergence of Coldplay directly to the chorus.

voodoo chili, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link

Only bit of High and Dry I particularly like are the drum fills in the 'best thing that you ever had' breakdown.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link

High & Dry is a fine song but sucks by association to all the awful, "sensitive" britpop bands it spawned.

Moka, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Q2fBhAO.jpg

38. I Might Be Wrong [15 votes | 289 points]

nate woolls, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

"High and Dry" is a beautiful song in and of itself and it's really not Radiohead's fault that every single Coldplay single is an inferior re-interpretation of it

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

I really really don't like I Might Be Wrong at all.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:30 (nine years ago) link

I don't know if I voted for IMBW but I love the coda.

Moka, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link

I think it's one of those good Radiohead songs that would be great with a different producer at the mix.

Moka, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

last two songs appropriately placed imo

btw, how far down are we counting today?

olly, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link

I really really don't like I Might Be Wrong at all.

― nate woolls

Same, sounds murky and lacking in drive.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link

I'm planning on going to 21, might not get that far though.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

"I Might Be Wrong" is fine but there are a bunch of Radiohead songs I like more

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

^^^

wolves at doors: they flan @ u face (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link


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