Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

I gotta find that "Billy Mitchell" episode of Regular Show

female voice actor for mass effect way superior to the male voice actor imo

I want to play a 'Mordy' text adventure.

they're out there. warning: they are not fantastic.

http://scarygoround.com/scare/strips/20140908.png

oh also i guess penny arcade weighed in idgaf really

your w33d is glowing with a faint blue glow

Is Penny Arcade actually weighing in here? The news post is just some mundane observation about how game journalists feed off Reddit. People say the same thing about Gawker et al.

Reddit is part of that atomization, also. People often ask me what news sites I read, and implicit in this is the idea that they’re looking to shift an allegiance. But I don’t read sites out of allegiance, and it barely matters what they have written - and not just because most of it is insulting or aggressively stupid. It doesn’t matter because I just strip it off the wing bone in one quick pull. I need a button for my jacket that says “I’m Only Here For The Organic Compounds.” I process their text like a Perl script, shucking nonsense, and then I make pixel sculptures out of them with my best friend. My needs may be different.

Much of the content on “the big news sites” is simply reposts from Reddit, encased in their acrid saliva. Once you realize this, you can’t really read them in the same way.

mmm, maybe i just assumed

Yeah, I also took that "Oh they're going to have views! Oh no, I guess not". Their forums (which I've never really read before, and kind of assumed was all scum and villainy?) have a pretty readable thread on this.

Sorry about the Nazis, Mordy - I was going for something a little more specific than just living in a fallen world though. I suppose that McCarthyism hits a lot of the same notes? 'These people' are among you, present an existential threat, are not applicable to any sense of commonality.

Reminded by Doctor Casino's booming post: I kind of wonder about the stories that young geeks soak up these days - I've seen a few actually say things along the lines of "(reveals purported pecadillo) Yeah, and they think they're the good guys!" which when I was growing up, was the clue that you are a) evil and b) insane.

oh god look who's farming this for clicks now:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/09/09/GamerGate-Why-Gaming-Journalists-Keep-Dragging-Zoe-Quinns-Sex-Life-into-the-Spotlight

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/09/09/An-open-letter-to-the-video-gaming-community-from-a-self-confessed-right-wing-bastard

don't feel like you have to click on either of those fyi

beetbort

ha yes

bloopblorp

As I wrote last week, gaming journalism, populated by well-meaning liberals, has forgotten what it is for and become consumed with social justice activism, at the expense of writing intelligently about games.

maybe i'd be more sympathetic to this point if gaming journalism had ever been accused of "writing intelligently about games," as opposed to aggregating screen shots and previewing a list of dragon shouts that'll be in the new elder scrolls game. by comparison social justice activism is a huge step up and who knows? maybe learning to write acc to this critical lens will prep them for other critical analysis as well.

if kotaku keeps writing about feminist critiques of video games, will they still have time to publish 20 photos of the same Kratos promo bust??

bigger issue there i think is the assumption that being "consumed with social justice activism" would make it impossible to write intelligently about games, which doesn't compute at all to me because yeah, it'd anyway be something to subject the games to or test them by, which indeed, isn't really happening AFAIK.

btw, omg, i was thinking about bloopblorp just yesterday. "...then blorp them back!"

all those guys sending roger ebert angry letters begging him to let games be art and now it's like wait wait wait -- criticism!?!

(from girls!?!)

some art "isn't for the critics"

Metal should only be listened to by metalheads who only listen to metal

its a conspiracy http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/09/new-chat-logs-show-how-4chan-users-pushed-gamergate-into-the-national-spotlight

I am so sorry guys, my hateful speech was because 4chan was goading me on. i am a cool guy, i did not say those things of my own volition :(

Good caption from that article: "A man harasses a woman while another man kind of stands around doing nothing. A beautiful microcosm of recent events."

anyone up for some ~thoughts~ from an indie dev

http://techraptor.net/2014/09/08/indie-developers-toughts-on-state-gaming-industry/

What made you decide to speak out now?

50% personal fears and 50% of historical experience with my country.

As I mentioned before, my game is about a taboo topic, and I am doomed to be called sexist, a misogynist and victim blamer by some in the media. In a healthy industry, every game would be judged by quality and not by how it reflects current agendas. If games are art, we must agree that art is not a concrete substance. Realism is a valid form of art. I love realism. Frankly reality is gray. So, excuse me if I don’t buy irrational feminists white and black ideas that men are inherently rapists and women are victims. As an artist, I want to explore every side of the issue.

Warlock • 2 days ago
I almost stood up in place and started to clap after I read this article. This dev is one boss guy.

sincerely,

Warlock

My game is a 3D puzzle/horror and the topic taps a taboo subject – false rape and sexual harassment accusations. I am trying to capture the horror of false accusations in a man’s life.

The fact that he comes from a Post-Soviet Union country, which as you will see in the interview, also plays a role in forming his worldview.

i've mentioned this before on ilx but the most hardcore republicans i know are all former soviets

some of the best 3D puzzle/horror/false rape accusation games were made by former soviets

An indie developer, who has requested to remain anonymous

They probably shouldn't have used a still from Indie Game: The Movie.

Or no, I guess the interviewee is someone else.

The main reason I decided to make an indie game was a well-known movie about the indie scene where now well-established developers posed themselves as artists.

this indie developer sounds like a treat

http://the-toast.net/2014/09/11/im-gamer/

loooooooool

http://www.gaming-age.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/dew-doritos-xbox-one.jpg

diabetes?

I've had diarrhea before, Xbox

The ultimate image of loneliness.

GamerGate is still happening

I mean, lol

How do they manage to keep a fake scandal going when for weeks there's been nothing new to say about it?

It's the new hot MMO.

Apparently WikiLeaks has now picked a side.

I think at this point it's worth answering this thread's titular question with "no, casual racism and sexism are no more acceptable in video games and their attendant conversations and communities than anywhere else, and the people flinging shit and protecting their right to bigoted animus in games are either impressionable teenagers without much emotional intelligence or garbage adults worthy only of exposure, scorn, ridicule, and censure."

they're either shitty kids or shitty adults, got it.

so the answer is actually "because a lot of gamers suck, also welcome to our racist/sexist world"?

*thread question was "accepted" not "acceptable"

also the original question wasn't a yes/no question

*thread question was "accepted" not "acceptable"

― anonanon, Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:38 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also the original question wasn't a yes/no question

― stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:41 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I know but in light of the gamergate dustup the thread title was feeling increasingly fatalistic

there's a lot of people in video games who have audiences who have taken this opportunity to be crystal clear with those audiences how unequivocally not OK harassment and bigotry is and even if it's a drop in the bucket in our shitty world I don't want to cede the whole territory to the shitlords

misread that as "gamergate dubstep" and was irrationally happy for a second

instead of struggling with that "they're not alllllll bad" line i prefer the "gamer as an identity is dead" line that's popped up out of all this. i can't take "the gaming community" seriously enough as a concept anymore to care about the microcosms within it, i'd rather just separate "self-proclaimed gamers who won't shut up" into their own microcosm within the general population

nb i haven't read any of this thread or any of those articles i'm just bored