s/d popol vuh

i saw this yesterday and today i remembered to click on it and it's asking me to "click here for downloader" and i feel like i am 500 years old pls send help bc i want to hear this!

i thought i posted that boot for y'all upthread. maybe it was another one

i have a couple live boots, one is "1973 baumberg kirche germany" and the other is from 1976 with some live roberto cacciapaglia(!)
― _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ (am0n), Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:46 AM (4 years ago)

whoops! yeah this is the church one

it's in FLAC if that makes a difference to anyone

i can put the 76 one up again if anyone needs it

i saw this yesterday and today i remembered to click on it and it's asking me to "click here for downloader" and i feel like i am 500 years old pls send help bc i want to hear this!

when i first clicked on it there was a "use sendspace downloader" box that i had to uncheck. i can't see the checkbox anymore though.

xp i'd like to hear that!

Yes pls!!

LL just be sure to uncheck the 'use sendspace downloader' box. And then on the next screen click the 'download from sendspace' thing and not the fake generic download thing.

I'm intrigued by the annotated discography included in this package! It's over 100 pgs long!

now it says service temp unavailable?

I'll see what's up later this afternoon LL, I can always mail you a CD if it comes to that

Sendspace maxes out at 25 downloads iirc, I had to use it b/c of file size

haha
ok :)
thank you

non-flac version of 1973 baumberg kirche germany
http://www13.zippyshare.com/v/33870044/file.html

1976 milan - popol vuh / roberto cacciapaglia
http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/90269463/file.html

thx sleeve and am0n

thank you!! i can't wait to hear them. also? the discography pdf?! wow. awesome.

hmm seems like it's working now?

feel free to webmail me via ILX if there are still issues

thnkx amon, fricke/cacciapaglia a dream pairing

oh yeah i didn't have that pdf so grab sleeves version if you can

I downloaded it too in case anyone needs it and it unable to get it via the Sendspace thingy

but I have not listened to it yet, so shame on me

i'm finally listening to the live in 1973 recording and it's totally giving me the weirds, like i have never heard these songs sounding like they were produced by actual human beings before and now here they are
agnus dei and all!
wow
thanks so much for sharing!!

I haven't heard this recording, downloading now, but I know what you mean about "actual humans" making this stuff... I can almost never make out the piano in all those PV albums even though it is always there. I can barely tell what's going on at all, except that it's impossibly beautiful, ha. Mr. Fricke's oeuvre is surely some of the most psychedelic music ever in the mind-manifesting sense, colorful, hazey, contradictory and simultaneously pretty/scary sounding. Countless layers of impenetrable sound. And so alive -- it breathes. It sounds just plain otherworldy. The sonic equivalent of the unreal and idealized dream-scape backgrounds one finds in Leonardo da Vinci paintings. Every once in a while I try to do a close study of this stuff and I never get anywhere with it, its essence just eludes me completely!!! Which is wonderful.

I feel like Herzog almost completely misuses the stuff, too. The music is usually just plain too strong to serve images/stories properly. It overpowers them.

I can almost never make out the piano in all those PV albums even though it is always there

It isn't always there!

Well, maybe that explains why I can't find it!

It is mostly there, no? Except for the modular synth, organ and the tape-loop mellotronish thing you hear in the early work.

On the contrary, it progressively disappears as the albums get more guitar based (I don't think there's any on "Coeur de Verre"), then comes back when they get more acoustic. Some songs the piano is there at the beginning and then fades out - almost as if to show how it was composed.

Okay, thanks. That makes sense. I always got the impression it was at the bottom of the mix somewhere as the live take and then smothered with overdubs.

That's probably true too

was looking up some information about (what i thought was) the melltron in "aguirre", found this interesting article

interesting!

1) 'For every key on the keyboard he had made a tape of that note which had been sung by a real choir. It wasn't sampled or anything.' Chris adds: 'He devised a system where he took about 150 matches and stuck them in the parts of the keyboard that didn't work. He painted these with different colours so he knew which keys he could play. It was the first such instrument in the world and Florian Fricke of Popol Vuh used it for his soundtrack music to [Werner] Herzog's Aguirre: Wrath Of God. It's in a museum now."
which museum?! where?

2) <3 the phrase "this Haboob project"

3) i just got my hands on a reissue (?) of that Herzog interview book and am seriously looking forward to any more PV info I can get out of it. My guess is that there's not much but throw me in the briar patch and make me read a book about Herzog, boohoo.

i just like saying it -- HABOOB

wouldn't mind hearing their album

you're telling me!

For the New Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock (www.gepr.net/) David Wayne gives the following hint:

"Interesting. The major point of interest for most progressive fans is Haboob's very significant connections with Amon Düül 2. The LP features psychedelic cover art by Amon Düül 2 keyboardist Falk U. Rogner, and it was produced by Amon Düül 2 saxophonist / producer Olaf Kübler. Jimmy Johnson has numerous studio credits, but is perhaps best known in prog-rock circles for his collaboration with Amon Düül 2 on Wolf City and Dance of the Lemmings (along with Phallus Dei, the band's best work, in my opinion). As you'd expect, Johnson's effects-laden organ and Mellotron (here called "choir-organ") are quite prominent. Unfortunately, Johnson's compositions aren't nearly as distinguished - the LP is comprised of a free improvisation (during which Green cuts loose to display some considerable jazz chops), a very Hendrix-inspired blues, and some pretty straightforward psychedelic soul - funk - rock pieces. The end result is sort of like a collaboration between Amon Düül 2 and early Funkadelic, or the Chambers Brothers (or perhaps even Sly Stone), minus the extended guitar explorations. The vocals, guitars and keyboards are heavily processed throughout - in fact the singing is pretty much buried beneath multiple layers of effects and electronic weirdness. The lyrics are only occasionally understandable. Despite the relative simplicity of the music, it has a lot of appeal - and I would urge those of you who are interested in a fusion of Euro-psychedelia with US soul and funk to seek this one out."

was wrong upthread to assume it was an orchestron! the world, it's so big.

I've heard the Haboob album and sought out every recording Jimmy Jackson is credited with appearing on... and there's next to no Choir Organ on any of them... Embryo, Kllaus Doldinger and, most disappointingly of all considering it's his album, Haboob. So best sticking to Amon Duul II, esp. Wolf City.

is that instrument making the sounds that I always thought were "just" massed backing vocals in "Surrounded By The Stars"?

Yes, that's it. Over the years I'd concluded the 'Choir Organ' was just a vaguely poetic name for a mellotron BUT I did read somewhere that, on ADII's "Tanz der Lemminge", there's a passage where a chord is held for 30 seconds (or thereabouts) and that it's not possible to hold a note for that long on a mellotron (apparently... I'm no expert). So, who knows? I do know that it is a fucking great noise and that the guys (and gal) in ADII obv. thought so as they slathered it all over their recordings, 1971-72.

Speaking of which, I'm not sure what the keyboard is at the end of "Sleepwalkers' Timeless Bridge" on "Wolf City", I assumed that was the Choir Organ too but whatever it is it's mindblowing.

Yes that's like my favorite keyboard sound ever. I just want that track isolated and looped FOREVER.

the higher registers of the choir-organ sound on the aguirre tracks are chilling

i was just thinking i should explore embryo. what's the deal with their mal waldron connection?

They did a cover version of a composition of his ("Call") on their first (least jazz, most rock) album, then did it again later on another album, this time with Waldron playing on the track. I assume Waldron was living in Germany (or at least Europe) at the time? Actually I think Christian Burchard (the main guy in Embryo) played with Waldron pre-Embryo. I'm not much of a jazz rock fan but I like some of their stuff.

first haboob album is on youtube. choir organ makes an entrance about 90 seconds into the first track. I'm only three minutes in, and yeah this record's completely messed up.

in a good way?

definitely for me. typical krautrock freakouts & processing overkill, but coming more from R&B / soul than rock. not lifechanging but if you're into both AD2 and Funkadelic.

the choir organ is a mystery!

oh, i'm mad on ADII at the moment; can't get enough of yeti and wolf city.

high five

Soul Jazz to release collection of Popol Vuh rarities

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=27777

Sweet.

Ooh!! Excited!

Nice! Haven't seen that doc before, sounds heavy.