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In that Rolling Stone piece he says he 'came up to London to do press,' but then he says he lives in Scotland. Kinda makes you wonder.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 September 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

it does?

am0n, Friday, 5 September 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

He also stated he came by train. In UK usage, railway lines almost always go "up" to London. It's not a geographical direction, it's a "towards city centre" terminology when people say they are going "up" London.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link

Ah! I've learned a lot here.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 September 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

This is apparently the last track on the album. Ridiculously gorgeous performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJHsT8kEyzs

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 5 September 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link

It's quite a challop to suggest that Dog Latin of all posters benefits from an automatically bestowed aura of respect.

Indeed, he's often the ilx whipping boy... (re-posted from the worst music writing thread..)

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr277/kadield/KickDog.gif

Comfrey Mugwort (Bob Six), Friday, 5 September 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link

I live in Glasgow and travel to London by train and always say 'I'm Going Down South' or 'Down to London', I've never heard anyone traveling from Glasgow to London by train say they are "going up" to London

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

i wd always travel down to London as it is closer to hell than the North is

Daphnis Celesta, Friday, 5 September 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link

xp I guess old Cornish habits die hard

at about the same latitude as London, I have not come to any conclusion about whether London is up or down, except that I might get the train down to London and the bus up to London, because those are more euphonious pairings

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:53 (nine years ago) link

actually I think it's the other way round

don't mind me

as a desperate attempt to be on topic, I quite liked that first track, but if it is the best track on the album then I'm not 100% sold yet (who am I kidding, I'll probably preorder)

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_directions

In British practice, railway directions are usually described as up and down, with up being towards a major location. This convention is applied not only to the trains and the tracks, but also to items of lineside equipment and to areas near a track. Since British trains run on the left, the up side of a line is on the left when proceeding in the up direction. The names originate from the early railways, where trains would run up the hills to the mines, and down to the ports.

On most of the network, up is the direction towards London. In most of Scotland, with the exception of the West and East Coast Main Lines, up is towards Edinburgh. The Valley Lines network around Cardiff has its own peculiar usage, relating to the original meaning of travelling up and down the valley. On the former Midland Railway up was towards Derby. Mileposts normally increase in the down direction

Individual tracks will have their own names, such as Up Main or Down Loop. Trains running towards London are normally referred to as Up trains, and those away from London as Down. Hence the Down Night Riviera runs to Penzance and the Up Flying Scotsman to Kings Cross.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

I mean, it's entirely possible that Richard's reference is more that Cornish habit of calling everything on the other side of the Tamar "Up Country", but technically and officially, "up" is towards London. (And after discussion on twitter, it emerges that in Ireland, all trains going towards Dublin are "up", regardless of geographical direction.)

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

Derail

smithery loves cuntery (wins), Friday, 5 September 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link

A bit like RAM, the track-by-track reviews from the listening parties have got me super excited. Fingers crossed.

groovypanda, Friday, 5 September 2014 23:01 (nine years ago) link

love this gear list pic

http://i.imgur.com/NwlH3Ge.jpg

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:05 (nine years ago) link

drukqs pwns

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:29 (nine years ago) link

drukqs more like DrUDkqs amirite

the late great, Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:36 (nine years ago) link

NO

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:39 (nine years ago) link

drukqs might be his second-best album after saw2!!!

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link

incomparable albums, but drukqs destroys saw 2.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 6 September 2014 01:24 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Listened to "Selected Ambient Works 85-92" last night while I did photoshop work. Incredible stuff.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

I know this might seem like a useless revival/joke, but I'm actually being serious about the following:

I have to watch my nine-year-old nephew a lot, and, as a matter course, I just often tend to have music on in the background. I don't really think about it, and we sort of listen to everything together.
Anyway, ever since he was about two or three, he would waddle his way up the stairs to my bedroom and ask for music, specifically asking if we could "dance! dance!".
Of course, I would always oblige him. So our favorites were (my favs at the time), were "Lush 3-1" and "Lush 3-2" by Orbital, '76:14' by Global Communication (there's a couple danceable tracks on there), and random Richard D. James Material. I would take my little man and swing him from his arms and we'd spin in a circle and we'd just dance around like crazy. I miss those days.

Anyway, I've listened to SAW I in front of him a few times, lately. He's nine, now.
Recently, I caught him listening to "Xtal" alone with himself, on his iPad on Youtube, in the living room, when I wasn't paying attention to him.
He actually searched Aphex/the song up himself! I was really kind of proud of him! Techno and my other tastes have seemed to actually rub off on him (not that I had any plan to inculcate him with any of that, whatever).

It actually occurred to me, however. Now that he's searching Aphex Twin by himself on his iPad (keep in mind, he's nine), I'm worried he'll come across things like "Come to Dadddy" or "Windowlicker", etc.
There are probably other inappropriate things that I might also worry about him searching for, as well.

So, what to do? If I tell him something like, "No more Aphex Twin without my permission", I know he'll just look more of it up on his own (I don't want him coming across the disturbing videos). I could say nothing, and maybe he'll forget about Aphex Twin. Um, but it's not like I'm to stop listening to music in front of him, either.

Silly question, I know. I wish his parents had never given him a phone or iPad. What do parents say, here!?

potential trouble source (monster mash), Sunday, 22 November 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link

It was seriously funny when I caught him listening to "Xtal" alone, though. He was just laying on the couch and staring at his iPad, and just bobbing his head up and down with his big old afro!

potential trouble source (monster mash), Sunday, 22 November 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link

It's a lovely story, and re: what to do, maybe talk to his parents, I'm sure they're facing similar issues already?

fka styx (paul santa cruz), Sunday, 22 November 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link

i was... 8 or 9 years old when i fist saw the come to daddy video on mtv, and loved it. still do.
my advice would be to just let the little guy live his life.

BringTheAuBonPain, Monday, 23 November 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link

in fact!
i remember showing my little niece a bunch of chris cunningham videos when she was a toddler. maybe 3 or 4 years old. she was a huge fan of the horrors' "sheena is a parasite"... good times. now she won't shut up about one direction.

BringTheAuBonPain, Monday, 23 November 2015 01:53 (eight years ago) link

i'm also worried that if i keep listening to afx and autechre with him, that he'll rebel as a teenager by listening to eric clapton!

potential trouble source (monster mash), Monday, 23 November 2015 02:11 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

This looks new? And good.

https://soundcloud.com/user18081971/ngaimodu-bradley-stryder

toby, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

man, i got the RDJ album a couple weeks ago and was totally floored, brilliant & beautiful album from beginning to end. i just got ...I Care Because You Do and it's just not doing it for me, the first 3 sides are actively irritating. the last side is nice

flappy bird, Saturday, 5 March 2016 21:42 (eight years ago) link

Two very different albums, for sure. I wouldn't call myself the biggest Aphex Twin fan but sometime last year I had a period where I played through this whole discography chronologically and found I Care Because You Do to hold up really well. Perhaps there's something to hearing it come directly out of his ambient phase that made it more appealing to me. He hadn't yet reached the RDJ phase of rapid beats and more pop-leaning melodies. (I hesitate to say "pop" but I'm thinking of the light-hearted earworms of "4" or "Finger Bib").

But if you prefer the RDJ style, I don't really feel like he ever did anything that's as tight and purely enjoyable as that (the Come to Daddy EP was of the same era and is maybe the closest thing). Others in this thread who take the time to dive deeper beyond his proper albums may disagree.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 6 March 2016 12:46 (eight years ago) link

I adore the Come to Daddy EP. The Little Lord Faulteroy version is one of my favorite songs ever.

flappy bird, Monday, 7 March 2016 00:51 (eight years ago) link

you should listen to it more than once.. or something. it's much much better than come to daddy.

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 7 March 2016 00:59 (eight years ago) link

i feel like nobody's ever been able (let alone tried) to duplicate the stuff this album does. zillions of mid-period autechre tributes but the closest i can think of for ICBYD is the first disjecta album..

just a few extraordinary sounds on ICBYD:
- the drums on "acrid avid jam". and the code melody that sounds like andreas vollenweider
- the impossible deep and sad synth whine that permeates "mookid"
- is that a vocal/chorale sample in "cow cud" (the one with the door slam)? or some synthetic approximation? no idea. it's magic.
- the reverbed synth on "start as you mean". i just love that sound.
- and obviously the splat/bleep sound he uses for/overlays on top of snares etc is marvelous.

i used to skip the harder stuff (tracks 3-5 basically) but i love it all now.

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 7 March 2016 01:11 (eight years ago) link

code melody = coda melody

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 7 March 2016 01:11 (eight years ago) link

the chords of the "mookid" chorus/hook whatever... just magnificent. flappy bird, you can't deny that one!

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 7 March 2016 01:12 (eight years ago) link

ah i think i meant the second disjecta album. this one: https://www.discogs.com/Disjecta-Clean-Pit-And-Lid-Promo/master/2452

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 7 March 2016 01:14 (eight years ago) link

i'll give it another dozen or so chances, but for now it's in the sell bin

flappy bird, Monday, 7 March 2016 01:17 (eight years ago) link

"mookid" kind of seems like a warmup for "fingerbib", now that i think about it.

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 7 March 2016 01:23 (eight years ago) link

ICBYD was my favourite Aphex at the height of my fandom. It's just the quintessential record for me, straddling his hard-techno and ambient past while looking towards more conceptual territory which he would explore on things like Come To Daddy. Every track is different from the last. It's dated a fair bit now. It's kind of trebly and harsh for today's ears. But still, Alberto Balsalm will never not be a classic.

draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Monday, 7 March 2016 11:18 (eight years ago) link

^^^

there's a great disco nihilist post where he talks about how Aphex records used to be like shocking brand new worlds, ICBYD epitomizes that for me.

I got into electronic music in high school after I bought a used Warp sampler that was 1/2 ICBYD 1/2 Spanners (I remember biking across the Mississippi to Dinkytown to the store where I found it.) Sitting on the floor of my bedroom with the light flooding in listening to the first three tracks especially, I felt like I'd escaped from grunge to some incredible world of Apollonian beauty, I wanted everyone in the world to hear what I was listening to. Changed my life yadda yadda.

0 / 0 (lukas), Monday, 7 March 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link

ICBYD is the first aphex I heard and still my favorite album. it's just so ... different!

the late great, Monday, 7 March 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link

It's probably my least favourite of all the albums he released under this moniker.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Monday, 7 March 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

ok, side 3 & 4 are really clicking with me now... mookid and alberto balsalm are really beautiful... don't dig em as much as RDJ LP or Come to Daddy but I'll hold off on selling this one...

flappy bird, Monday, 7 March 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link

i don't think i ever properly appreciated the RDJ album (listened to Come to Daddy a ton though).

i have a playlist of all the piano/percussion pieces from Drukqs for weekend morning listening, i think it's time to make one for all of his electronic tracks with pretty pretty melodies.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link

Aphex was such a big part of my life in the late 90s and early thousands that I have difficulty imagining what it would be like to listen to ICBYD or even RDJ Album for the first time in 2016. I identify very much with lukas's post, in that hearing these records at the time, I didn't have to make any mental allowances at the time: it felt very much like the sound of daringness and future-music. Ironically I can't help feeling that ICBYD sounds really of its time. Still very much a unique piece of work, it's nevertheless harder to appreciate what made it so outstandingly different and new on release.

draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link

cow cud is a twin

am0n, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link

imo Little Lord Faulteroy towers over everything else he's done. Ridiculously brilliant song from beginning to end

flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link

94-95 best afx period

clouds, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

xp Come to Daddy as a suite is his (no pun intended) apex. Bouncing Bucephalus Ball and Flim were life-changing moments for me when I first heard them.

draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:24 (eight years ago) link

if/when it's starting to get warm where you live, go for a stroll and listen to acrid avid and cow cud.

icbyd has the best drums. they're made by special construction equipment that can dig out chunks of your brain and burrow inside.

think this was the last time he fully went for a super saturated mix with huge reverbs everywhere. i love that sound. no idea how he found so much space around all the gnashing cymbals.

home organ, Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:28 (eight years ago) link


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