Aphex Twin classic or Dud?

ILM in a nutshell here, really:

I say something like "People like AFX interviews because RDJ provided a personality as opposed to faceless techno" and everyone goes STFU Branwell.

Doggie Latin and Matt DC come along to say "People like AFX interviews because RDJ provided a personality as opposed to faceless techno" and everyone goes OMG BRAVO WHAT AN AMAZING POINT WELL PUT.

It doesn't matter what I say on ILM because never mind, A Man will be along in ten minutes to say exactly the same thing, then everyone will applaud.

woooo doggie

Who said STFU? Who is 'everyone'? As far as my own intentions were concerned I was tacitly agreeing with your post until you told me to get lost and find my own thread.

I'm not sure why you read such an act of ~hostility~ from suggesting that a thread might be split in two, as it follows two distinct strands. Are you sure you're not projecting?

A mere suggestion that you bang on in a different thread

For my part I did note that dog Latin was essentially making the exact same really obvious & oft-stated point as you which is why it was so delightfully odd that you would take exception to his posts

xpost

Hate to mansplain this to you, Brannywannydoo-dah, but if you can't figure out why one might read a certain hostility in this post...

Maybe we can have one thread for Dog Latin to just bang on about how IDM was back in the 90s, and another thread for everyone else to just discuss the new album, interviews, etc.

― Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, September 5, 2014 11:00 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...not to mention every other time you've told me, in no uncertain terms, to fuck off out of this thread over the years, then I can't answer your question. As far as I know I have never spoken to you in this way and if I have then I apologise, but I have a feeling that's never going to be good enough. Good day to you.

It's quite a challop to suggest that Dog Latin of all posters benefits from an automatically bestowed aura of respect.

Wow.

Can we have a thread about the new Aphex Twin album now, please?

Anticipating SYRO the new (2014) album by Aphex Twin

tbh I think "dog latin banging on about 90's IDM" is just as valid for this thread as "I wish he didn't do interviews like this" or w/e

DOG LATIN

well this thread certainly got http://www.gadgetreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/cray-cx1-with-nvidia1.jpg

jaded ex-raver who'd moved to London and got lucky doing mobile phone adverts

haha i had no idea! is this how a lot of people heard his stuff for the first time? which tracks?

To Cure A Weakling Child was used quite prominently in an Orange mobile advert around 1997. I don't think it's the way most people discovered him (obv SAWII and several other releases came before) but that half of the Come To Daddy EP used the Orange mobile branding on the cover so it might have been an 'in' for some.

http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/cometodaddy_cd2_right.gif

In that Rolling Stone piece he says he 'came up to London to do press,' but then he says he lives in Scotland. Kinda makes you wonder.

it does?

He also stated he came by train. In UK usage, railway lines almost always go "up" to London. It's not a geographical direction, it's a "towards city centre" terminology when people say they are going "up" London.

Ah! I've learned a lot here.

This is apparently the last track on the album. Ridiculously gorgeous performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJHsT8kEyzs

It's quite a challop to suggest that Dog Latin of all posters benefits from an automatically bestowed aura of respect.

Indeed, he's often the ilx whipping boy... (re-posted from the worst music writing thread..)

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr277/kadield/KickDog.gif

I live in Glasgow and travel to London by train and always say 'I'm Going Down South' or 'Down to London', I've never heard anyone traveling from Glasgow to London by train say they are "going up" to London

i wd always travel down to London as it is closer to hell than the North is

xp I guess old Cornish habits die hard

at about the same latitude as London, I have not come to any conclusion about whether London is up or down, except that I might get the train down to London and the bus up to London, because those are more euphonious pairings

actually I think it's the other way round

don't mind me

as a desperate attempt to be on topic, I quite liked that first track, but if it is the best track on the album then I'm not 100% sold yet (who am I kidding, I'll probably preorder)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_directions

In British practice, railway directions are usually described as up and down, with up being towards a major location. This convention is applied not only to the trains and the tracks, but also to items of lineside equipment and to areas near a track. Since British trains run on the left, the up side of a line is on the left when proceeding in the up direction. The names originate from the early railways, where trains would run up the hills to the mines, and down to the ports.

On most of the network, up is the direction towards London. In most of Scotland, with the exception of the West and East Coast Main Lines, up is towards Edinburgh. The Valley Lines network around Cardiff has its own peculiar usage, relating to the original meaning of travelling up and down the valley. On the former Midland Railway up was towards Derby. Mileposts normally increase in the down direction

Individual tracks will have their own names, such as Up Main or Down Loop. Trains running towards London are normally referred to as Up trains, and those away from London as Down. Hence the Down Night Riviera runs to Penzance and the Up Flying Scotsman to Kings Cross.

I mean, it's entirely possible that Richard's reference is more that Cornish habit of calling everything on the other side of the Tamar "Up Country", but technically and officially, "up" is towards London. (And after discussion on twitter, it emerges that in Ireland, all trains going towards Dublin are "up", regardless of geographical direction.)

Derail

A bit like RAM, the track-by-track reviews from the listening parties have got me super excited. Fingers crossed.

love this gear list pic

http://i.imgur.com/NwlH3Ge.jpg

drukqs pwns

drukqs more like DrUDkqs amirite

NO

drukqs might be his second-best album after saw2!!!

incomparable albums, but drukqs destroys saw 2.

Listened to "Selected Ambient Works 85-92" last night while I did photoshop work. Incredible stuff.

I know this might seem like a useless revival/joke, but I'm actually being serious about the following:

I have to watch my nine-year-old nephew a lot, and, as a matter course, I just often tend to have music on in the background. I don't really think about it, and we sort of listen to everything together.
Anyway, ever since he was about two or three, he would waddle his way up the stairs to my bedroom and ask for music, specifically asking if we could "dance! dance!".
Of course, I would always oblige him. So our favorites were (my favs at the time), were "Lush 3-1" and "Lush 3-2" by Orbital, '76:14' by Global Communication (there's a couple danceable tracks on there), and random Richard D. James Material. I would take my little man and swing him from his arms and we'd spin in a circle and we'd just dance around like crazy. I miss those days.

Anyway, I've listened to SAW I in front of him a few times, lately. He's nine, now.
Recently, I caught him listening to "Xtal" alone with himself, on his iPad on Youtube, in the living room, when I wasn't paying attention to him.
He actually searched Aphex/the song up himself! I was really kind of proud of him! Techno and my other tastes have seemed to actually rub off on him (not that I had any plan to inculcate him with any of that, whatever).

It actually occurred to me, however. Now that he's searching Aphex Twin by himself on his iPad (keep in mind, he's nine), I'm worried he'll come across things like "Come to Dadddy" or "Windowlicker", etc.
There are probably other inappropriate things that I might also worry about him searching for, as well.

So, what to do? If I tell him something like, "No more Aphex Twin without my permission", I know he'll just look more of it up on his own (I don't want him coming across the disturbing videos). I could say nothing, and maybe he'll forget about Aphex Twin. Um, but it's not like I'm to stop listening to music in front of him, either.

Silly question, I know. I wish his parents had never given him a phone or iPad. What do parents say, here!?

It was seriously funny when I caught him listening to "Xtal" alone, though. He was just laying on the couch and staring at his iPad, and just bobbing his head up and down with his big old afro!

It's a lovely story, and re: what to do, maybe talk to his parents, I'm sure they're facing similar issues already?

i was... 8 or 9 years old when i fist saw the come to daddy video on mtv, and loved it. still do.
my advice would be to just let the little guy live his life.

in fact!
i remember showing my little niece a bunch of chris cunningham videos when she was a toddler. maybe 3 or 4 years old. she was a huge fan of the horrors' "sheena is a parasite"... good times. now she won't shut up about one direction.

i'm also worried that if i keep listening to afx and autechre with him, that he'll rebel as a teenager by listening to eric clapton!

This looks new? And good.

https://soundcloud.com/user18081971/ngaimodu-bradley-stryder

man, i got the RDJ album a couple weeks ago and was totally floored, brilliant & beautiful album from beginning to end. i just got ...I Care Because You Do and it's just not doing it for me, the first 3 sides are actively irritating. the last side is nice

Two very different albums, for sure. I wouldn't call myself the biggest Aphex Twin fan but sometime last year I had a period where I played through this whole discography chronologically and found I Care Because You Do to hold up really well. Perhaps there's something to hearing it come directly out of his ambient phase that made it more appealing to me. He hadn't yet reached the RDJ phase of rapid beats and more pop-leaning melodies. (I hesitate to say "pop" but I'm thinking of the light-hearted earworms of "4" or "Finger Bib").

But if you prefer the RDJ style, I don't really feel like he ever did anything that's as tight and purely enjoyable as that (the Come to Daddy EP was of the same era and is maybe the closest thing). Others in this thread who take the time to dive deeper beyond his proper albums may disagree.

I adore the Come to Daddy EP. The Little Lord Faulteroy version is one of my favorite songs ever.

you should listen to it more than once.. or something. it's much much better than come to daddy.

i feel like nobody's ever been able (let alone tried) to duplicate the stuff this album does. zillions of mid-period autechre tributes but the closest i can think of for ICBYD is the first disjecta album..

just a few extraordinary sounds on ICBYD:
- the drums on "acrid avid jam". and the code melody that sounds like andreas vollenweider
- the impossible deep and sad synth whine that permeates "mookid"
- is that a vocal/chorale sample in "cow cud" (the one with the door slam)? or some synthetic approximation? no idea. it's magic.
- the reverbed synth on "start as you mean". i just love that sound.
- and obviously the splat/bleep sound he uses for/overlays on top of snares etc is marvelous.

i used to skip the harder stuff (tracks 3-5 basically) but i love it all now.

code melody = coda melody

the chords of the "mookid" chorus/hook whatever... just magnificent. flappy bird, you can't deny that one!