Aphex Twin classic or Dud?

you can live

i wasn't that bothered about him releasing new material but if it's going to generate opinions i'm on board

he just.......................................... cared because you do xp

I'm not going to listen to any of these tracks until I get the LP I guess.

xp I'm interested in Lukas's opinion about "...I care" though because I've only just rediscovered after years and years of it being sat in a cupboard festering and being ignored. It sounds so, so great in the last two days I've heard it again. Almost like the Aphex I'd dreamed of hearing after SAWII. erm, yeah. I know.

it is very richard h. kirk : lovely melodic bouncy bleeps, layered/cut up/processed vocals

subsequently, i really like it.

still likes electro, breaks, philip glass

but now he's old and the context is different so ymmv

Hi,

Just in case it was not clear, I am avoiding listening to that track, as I am the ILXor that's doing a track of that name for the pre-cover project.

Regards,

Mark.

k, thanks. was waiting for you to weigh in

http://www.discogs.com/Corneliu-Cezar-Ziua-Fără-Sfârșit/release/966371

ICBYD is possibly my favourite Twin album.

The new track makes me think of other Warp artists, especially Plaid.

if you like spoilers... http://thequietus.com/articles/16166-aphex-twin-syro-review

I'm interested in Lukas's opinion about "...I care"

Yeah, I love it. I discovered electronic music when I picked up some sampler that was 1/2 ICBYD + 1/2 of Black Dog's Spanners. So I'm probably not totally rational about that album.

I can go inside my little Cray supercomputer in the day, and people don't even know I'm in the room. You can kind of hide away in there. My wife will be calling me, "Rich!" My wife is next to me smiling as I'm saying that. She knows my secret.

so the divorce thing was b.s. huh

Heard for the first time on Radio 1’s Zane Lower night, can now listen to the album track minipops 67 (120.2) (source field mix). This is the first dong fore 13 years between the publication of the first a formal music.

lol it's like someone who can't speak english well, so funny

The new track makes me think of other Warp artists, especially Plaid

ouch

lol remember plone

or jimi tenor

allow jimi tenor, haven't listened to plone in a while

Plone were great! So were Plaid (although I'm so-so on their more recent output). Never really got my head around Jimi unfortunately.

I can go inside my little Cray supercomputer in the day, and people don't even know I'm in the room. You can kind of hide away in there. My wife will be calling me, "Rich!" My wife is next to me smiling as I'm saying that. She knows my secret.

So one minute he's making beats on the train using nothing but decaying copies of Reason; next he's got a ginormous NASA system in his front room that's big enough to house a man. LOL Rich, you so funny.

Seems like UK ppl're way fascinated w a public persona I've never rly bnoticed tbh

the cray(1) is tiny though - they have one in the science museum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray-1#mediaviewer/File:Cray-1-UIUC_CAC.jpg

they have built-in seats - can use them as furniture.

that said, the phone in your pocket probably outperforms one today.

Maybe he meant cray-cray, like, I've got this totally cray computer.

Well, he is consistent, in that he is at least still a compulsive liar. He's always just made up bonkers shit on the spot in interviews. Seems like his wife has become the new focus of his lying, like his parents used to be. (The number of stories I'd read him telling about his parents - everything from "they're acid-heads from a mental hospital!" to "I killed them and ate my mum")

The Cray supercomputer is probably a lot like the tank story. (He did not own a tank; but he did an armoured car.) He may well own some room-sized ancient bit of processing kit.

His lying, buffoonish,trickster persona has *always* been a huge part of his schtick, TBH. Even back in the olden days, the idea of this Cornish, ginger, trickster wizard character was always presented as a counter to "faceless techno" or whatever.

Yeah see I've been listening to him since I ws like 15 and never, ever thought that stuff meant anything outside of maybe "oh geez I HAVE to do an interview, so". I just really loved his records and tbh I'm p sure everyone else I've ever known that liked his music thought the same. Why do interviews etc matter?

Speaking as a colonial btw

why does anything matter?

sorry, that was facetious but unless we're going to talk about specific pitches or rhythm templates or whatever, then what else is there to discuss? A big part of the Aphex/RDJ 'thing' is the way he built up a mythos around himself in a time when techno producers generally hid behind their equipment. It looks like he's continuing to do so now. The difference today is that people are a lot more receptive to bullshit, because internet, photoshop etc, so now it seems he's doing it by coming across as genuine as possible but still slipping in massive lies about himself.

Shouldn't there be a dedicated thread for the new album?

I say let's do it when it comes out.

That's OK cos I ws being p facetious myself. I just kinda suspect that mythos you talk abt didn't exist outside of the UK as anything but a tiny sideline to his actual records, whereas it seems to've dominated how he ws perceived there

I think it varies from fan to fan. When I ran an IDM-based online community in the late-90s/early-00s I spoke to a lot of Twin fans in both the UK And the US, and the perception of RDJ and how his fans treated his persona was felt pretty much equally. I'd dare say it was the US fans who were slightly more caught up in the mythos because to them the idea of an electronic maniac from Cornwall was much more exotic than the British perception of a jaded ex-raver who'd moved to London and got lucky doing mobile phone adverts. But yeah, what matters to some doesn't matter at all to others.

Yeah, maybe I just got lucky. I basically just thought he ws some anonymous guy who made SAW2 (which is a kinda mythosmaking thing in itself) and everything else came v much second

Maybe we can have one thread for Dog Latin to just bang on about how IDM was back in the 90s, and another thread for everyone else to just discuss the new album, interviews, etc.

why are you always so rude with me Bran?

> Maybe we can have one thread for Dog Latin to just bang on about how IDM was back in the 90s

would bookmark

I think discussion of aphex twin's previous form & reception is fair game for the aphex twin classic or dud thread tbh

Some of this dude's albums are classics

Or maybe just the one

Dog Latin etc talking abt techno in the 90s beats the fuck out of Branwell talking abt Aphex interviews, tbf

we're talking about the same things, really.

Aphex is very, very good but I don't really think he is the pre-eminent musical genius of 90s dance music. Still, the press built him up into that role because visibly having a personality and being good in interviews really, really worked for him. The NME in particular lapped that shit up.

The discourse around him is still way less annoying than the culture of reverence around Villalobos, the equivalent 00s figure.

I never realised Villalobos had a big personality cult?

He didn't but his music was so good it got made up for him (goes for RDJ and VILLALOBOS)

Ppl like to have a singular figure they can be into

ILM in a nutshell here, really:

I say something like "People like AFX interviews because RDJ provided a personality as opposed to faceless techno" and everyone goes STFU Branwell.

Doggie Latin and Matt DC come along to say "People like AFX interviews because RDJ provided a personality as opposed to faceless techno" and everyone goes OMG BRAVO WHAT AN AMAZING POINT WELL PUT.

It doesn't matter what I say on ILM because never mind, A Man will be along in ten minutes to say exactly the same thing, then everyone will applaud.

woooo doggie

Who said STFU? Who is 'everyone'? As far as my own intentions were concerned I was tacitly agreeing with your post until you told me to get lost and find my own thread.