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as I said, it's not a new development

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqV9ilyiWK4

Number None, Monday, 1 September 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link

It took Panera bread to connect with the people

post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 September 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link

Fair enough. Among the Leaves was the literal first time he changed his approach in the autobiographical way, but MK/Desertshore and Benji seem directly from a diary and entirely unedited beyond a first draft. To me they differentiate that way. AtL and Perils both have the conversational feel yet sound to me like he worked on the songs a bit more. "Young Love" for instance wouldn't even be that out of place on AFP (though I admit it isn't the best representation of AtL on the whole).

Evan, Monday, 1 September 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link

AtL literally has one that goes

Well I wrote this one and I know it ain't great
I'll probably sequence at track number 8
And pick up some water at 7/11
On my way to the mastering session

It's called Track Number 8

Number None, Monday, 1 September 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link

Plus as far as why Benji resonated more is clear- people don't emotionally connect to funny stories about touring the same way they do about the relatable accounts of family members tragically dying in their mundane hometowns between visits to mundane Panera Breads, reflections of parents much like theirs, growing up, etc.

Evan, Monday, 1 September 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link

xpost OK, OK, fair. Benji is still farther down the rabbit hole of quickly written and patched together songs though. His choice of guitar lines plays a big part as well.

Evan, Monday, 1 September 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link

I like to imagine that he laid down some really complicated and overwritten tracks before switching to chords + blue crabcakes

post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 September 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link

blue crabcakes + sports bar shit are my favourite moments on the album

Number None, Monday, 1 September 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link

otm

post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 1 September 2014 23:15 (nine years ago) link

always read Panera bread as Pantera bread.

charlie h, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 02:33 (nine years ago) link

I'd eat a dime bag of chocolate croissants

post...aftermath (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 02:44 (nine years ago) link

LOL

charlie h, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link

I just realized that Koz must be looking at post-divorce Ben Gibbard w/ dollar signs in his eyes

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 September 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link

Does anyone know who the female vocalist on Songs For A Blue Guitar is? I remember trying to find out a few times with no luck.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link

Stephanie Finch

Number None, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link

"I just realized that Koz must be looking at post-divorce Ben Gibbard w/ dollar signs in his eyes"

why? Koz didn't get a divorce

"Stephanie Finch"

she's Chuck Prophet's wife and sings with him as well.

akm, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link

Thank you! Looks like she had a solo album a few years ago.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 01:12 (nine years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Can someone please tell the dude he is NOT funny?

nostormo, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 08:23 (nine years ago) link

he has his moments. funnier than most people, i think.

charlie h, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 09:16 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, like his funny songs

nostormo, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 09:37 (nine years ago) link

With regard to "beer commercial lead guitar music" or whatever, I used to see Red House Painters perform in San Francisco in the mid-90s. Kozelek was playing mostly electric guitar in those days. He would launch into a noodly, 20-minute guitar solo at least once during every set. It used to bore the piss out of me.

Bloody Pelt Found Near the Scene of the Crime (Skrot Montague), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link

there's a point in OLD MAN YELLS AT CLOUD reportage where you stop laughing at the old man and start laughing at the reporter

da croupier, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 19:07 (nine years ago) link

i could except this sort of criticism from a band like Swans or something.
not from Kozelek, which is closer to the mainstream maybe even more than War On Drugs are

xpost

nostormo, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link

accept

nostormo, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link

'Make Like Paper' is fucking awesome, and I would listen to 90s kozelek's neil young impression all night long with a smile

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link

agreed. i got to see him do a condensed, acoustic version of River, but it just wasn't the same without the Neil Young-isms.

charlie h, Thursday, 2 October 2014 03:12 (nine years ago) link

So, logically, out of nowhere, we're getting a Mark Kozelek solo Christmas carol album. Enjoy?

http://caldoverderecords.com/christmas/mkscc2014.html

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 October 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

Kozelek has been particularly prolific these last few years so more material isn't surprising.

Personally I'm quite puzzled by pitchfork's stanning for Benji. Much more into the Koz with gravitas than the borderline rapping, teetering b/w sad and jokey Koz of Among The Leaves and beyond.

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Monday, 6 October 2014 00:25 (nine years ago) link

The Christmas carols album was actually announced about a year ago.

I think the pitchfork review is mostly based on their tendency to overestimate albums that are made by compelling characters. They seem to emphasize artists that would have compelling backstories over artists with without that attribute.

Think about how they treat very solid albums by not so distinct artists vs solid albums by very distinct artists.

Evan, Monday, 6 October 2014 01:54 (nine years ago) link

Kozelek shifted from a incredible musician, singer and poet into a sloppier musician with an unedited, heart-wrenching and uncensored series of stories to tell and that's when pitchfork perked up.

Evan, Monday, 6 October 2014 01:59 (nine years ago) link

lol revisiting pitchfork scores and april got an 8.3. pretty sure pfork were woke to kozelek

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 6 October 2014 02:22 (nine years ago) link

Right, they considered it solid but they didn't make a big fuss- no BNM etc.

Evan, Monday, 6 October 2014 02:37 (nine years ago) link

Some albums just seem to come at the right moment. Never been able to figure out whether that was the result of zeitgeist or just a good PR team.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 October 2014 02:40 (nine years ago) link

my thing is i think that a lot of early rhp lyrics had a stream of consciousness quality that's entirely distinct from benji and was way more rich than shit hanging on walls plus someone died man

which wouldn't be necessarily measurable by pfork scores. april being an 8.3/non-bnm is kinda right imo, it's a more discursive ghosts of the great highway and not as many people would be interested in that than, say, old white guy indexes memory, inevitably stumbles upon profound shit

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 6 October 2014 02:42 (nine years ago) link

mostly i'm thinking of "strawberry hill"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 6 October 2014 02:42 (nine years ago) link

Honestly what's kind of funny about April though is that it may be (now after Benji, perhaps) the most heard album by SKM, and largely by demographics you wouldn't expect to care... all due to Heron Blue being used in that Gears of War trailer/commercial.

Evan, Monday, 6 October 2014 02:52 (nine years ago) link

i can dig the destroyer-style arrangement, but i'm not into the rapping that he's doing or whatever. maybe i'm boring but i prefer serious koz to the post-admiral fell promises goofy koz.

― pearly-dewdrops' bops (monotony), Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:30 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, turns out I made basically the same post in January

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Monday, 6 October 2014 04:19 (nine years ago) link

He was pretty deadpan hilarious at the show I saw a couple weeks ago. Also poked fun at the BNM designation.

sofatruck, Monday, 6 October 2014 12:34 (nine years ago) link

i hope neil young will remember: a southern man don't need him around, anyhow

http://sunkilmoon.com/mkwod/index.html

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 10:21 (nine years ago) link

"the whitest band I've ever heard" - says the guy who makes the whitest music I've ever heard. What a stupid ass-clown. "bridge and tunnel people" - gee, sorry we can't all afford to live in the city itself, you elitist fuck-face.

Bloody Pelt Found Near the Scene of the Crime (Skrot Montague), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link

song is pretty lol

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link

It’s way funnier than a song called "War on Drugs Should Suck My Cock" should be.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:13 (nine years ago) link

friends with the writer he called a "spoiled bitch rich kid blogger brat" :[

the part about War on Drugs is sorta funny I guess

Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link

I wouldn't mind being called names in a song if it meant Mark Kozelek. If Matt P is a singer that's probably the closest I'll get.

I do agree that War on Drugs edges ahead of Sun Kil Moon as far as whiteness goes. And he never said he wasn't a close second so there's that.

I don't know if anyone would have predicted that the guy singing Alesund in 2010 conjuring Segovia in the process would in 2014 be channeling Art Alexakis in some bitter asshole joke-song about some buzzband.

Evan, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

friends with the writer he called a "spoiled bitch rich kid blogger brat"

did not enjoy that line much at all, and though most of the rest of it was pretty funny, i really wish he would concentrate on doing something more worthwhile

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

i can't take it as anything other than a sendup of his current bitter crank persona

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link

That line reads as sexist and ugly to me

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link

yeah, that is spiteful however you slice it

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

could imagine warren drugs being able to laugh at the stuff aimed at him though

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

looking forward to his new album, Finally Getting Publicity

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link


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