i take seriously that those early sonnets are about mortality. it's the triangulation that's creepy. and interesting, later in the sonnets.
― horseshoe, Monday, 1 September 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
Lines Written on a Seat on the Grand Canal, Dublin
'Erected to the memory of Mrs. Dermot O'Brien'
O commemorate me where there is water, Canal water, preferably, so stillyGreeny at the heart of summer. BrotherCommemorate me thus beautifullyWhere by a lock niagarously roarsThe falls for those who sit in the tremendous silenceOf mid-July. No one will speak in proseWho finds his way to these Parnassian islands. A swan goes by head low with many apologies, Fantastic light looks through the eyes of bridges - And look! a barge comes bringing from AthyAnd other far-flung towns mythologies.O commemorate me with no hero-courageous Tomb - just a canal-bank seat for the passer-by.
― fedora, wherever it may find her (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 September 2014 03:51 (nine years ago) link
I'm just gonna, having let that mature, offer aero or whoever their pick against kavanagh, as a way of getting the ball rolling here
― local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 20 February 2015 12:39 (nine years ago) link
Dylan Thomas might make a good match-up.
― woof, Friday, 20 February 2015 12:50 (nine years ago) link
but then we're heading towards a poetry 6 nations.
― woof, Friday, 20 February 2015 12:54 (nine years ago) link
nothing wrong with that itd keep the yanks out (not that they'd respect it but no harm setting a stall out maybe)
― local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 20 February 2015 13:53 (nine years ago) link
all those sonnets that are like, you're super-hot, you should go plow some lady so that your hotness lives on creep me out the worst.― horseshoe, Monday, 1 September 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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I look out for this paperbk ed of the sonnets, intro by Germaine Greer.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 February 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link
feel like Kavanagh/D Thomas/Ted Hughes might be an interesting stand-off (great but not dominant-great, like Yeats or someone), but I'd be uncertain of a Scottish poet to throw in the mix (I think MacDiarmid is too heavy a hitter for them, or his major achievements are more long-form maybe, and then I'm no good on the next step down, like MacCaig and Morgan) & then I wouldn't know at all to pick a French or Italian poet - it'd be names from a hat for me tbh.
Berryman/Plath might be an interesting head-to-head.
― woof, Friday, 20 February 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link
I dont think there are any bad ideas there tbh I just like reading ilx poetry hedz thrash it out also I think maybe Kavanagh needs some spotlight
― local eire man (darraghmac), Friday, 20 February 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
is there a good selection of Yeats' best lyrics? I'm reading through the Collected in full, & there's a lot in the early volumes that seems... unnecessary
then again, it could just be the actual formatting that's throwing me: giant font + poems starting in midpage = the shorter, pithy stuff tends to get lost in the shuffle; combine that with the frustrating similarity of the titles & I end up rereading a whole volume of poems because I can't spot the ones I liked when I'm paging through :/
― bernard snowy, Monday, 6 April 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
the recent separate issue of 'the tower' is nice
― j., Monday, 6 April 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
yeah I've got that & 'The Winding Stair' in separate volumes (nice cuz they're both good books & the covers are pretty). would love to see this get the same reissued-facsimile treatment:http://www.themargins.net/images2/bib/B/BL/BL17_228.jpg
― bernard snowy, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 03:20 (nine years ago) link
ooh, i didn't know there was another one of those
― j., Tuesday, 7 April 2015 05:23 (nine years ago) link
Depends. How are you defining "early"? No Yeats is complete without "The Sorrow of Fergus" and "Adam's Curse."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 10:59 (nine years ago) link
you referring to "Fergus and the Druid" or another poem? definitely "early", but perhaps a "dramatic fragment" rather than a "lyric"...
"Adam's Curse" = early-middle Yeats?
I've been reading Harold Bloom's Yeats study in tandem with the Collected, & he draws the line right at the turn of the century, which is convenient; but unlike Bloom, I find much to admire in the 'middle poems' of Responsibilities (1914) & The Green Helmet (1910). I'm somewhat less charmed by 1904's In the Seven Woods, so it's simple enough to shunt that one off to the early track.
― bernard snowy, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:03 (nine years ago) link
rosenthal's 'selected poems and four plays' is the standard, right, or used to be? i feel like i may have been recommended it on this board. this thread, possibly.
i just cant with yeats tho in general
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:10 (nine years ago) link
Responsibilitie would be my cutoff point, and I'd include several of its poems.
That Bloom book is excellent on among other things Yeats' indebtedness to Shelley.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:13 (nine years ago) link
xp yeah I was just looking at the Rosenthal... it's still like 300 pages tho! & I already have all the plays
I feel like my appreciation of a poet depends heavily on my ability to carry a book around with me for several weeks, reading & rereading during my little snatches of downtime. pocket-sized facsimile editions of The Tower & The Winding Stair have made some inroads towards the later Yeats, but if I want to dip into The Wind Among the Reeds I'm stuck lugging around a 600-page brick :/
― bernard snowy, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link
are you reading this thread on a printout?
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link
who says he wants to appreciate us
― j., Tuesday, 7 April 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
... well now that you mention it, I do appreciate that counter-zing on my behalf :)
― bernard snowy, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
it wasn't a zing I'm trying to shock u into happiness get a kindle
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link
no thanks, I'm a sentimental traditionalist & a champion of conservative values (I'm reading Yeats ffs)
― bernard snowy, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 22:55 (nine years ago) link
this is the same Yeats with the tombshagging and the whatnot now
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 22:57 (nine years ago) link
Better still, hand the Yeats-loaded Kindle to a gifted reader-aloud of poetry and have them insinuate the words into your brain through your ears. That way you needn't encumber your hands and may even close your eyes restfully.
― Giant Purple Wakerobin (Aimless), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 00:39 (nine years ago) link
think of how many monkey testicles you'd be able to afford thanks the savings a kindle brings
― j., Wednesday, 8 April 2015 01:09 (nine years ago) link
The benefits are endless.
― Giant Purple Wakerobin (Aimless), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 04:17 (nine years ago) link
interesting that nobody talks abt shakespeare ITT anymore, interesting and telling imo Yeats in the long run at a canto imo
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 April 2015 23:39 (nine years ago) link
shakespeare in a first round KO thx
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 10 April 2015 01:28 (nine years ago) link
Yeats after the fall
― post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Friday, 10 April 2015 06:16 (nine years ago) link
ive had the first four lines of wild swans at Cooke in my head all day idk why.
how do the rhythms even work. idk.
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Monday, 8 June 2015 00:08 (eight years ago) link
anyway, 150th bday this week rte running a course of events across TV and radio to look fwd to
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Monday, 8 June 2015 00:09 (eight years ago) link
Yeats employed a superb bassist
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 June 2015 00:19 (eight years ago) link
How do I shot Yeats through guitar amp?
― Maria Felix Kept On Walking (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 June 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link
giving yis both a dry downturning mouth rn
― thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Monday, 8 June 2015 00:29 (eight years ago) link
On R3 also: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05xq6b0
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 June 2015 04:54 (eight years ago) link
Players and painted stage took all my love,And not those things that they were emblems of.
God almighty
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 14 August 2015 23:27 (eight years ago) link
√
― irl lol (darraghmac), Friday, 14 August 2015 23:38 (eight years ago) link
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― deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Monday, 28 September 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link
*folds arms, raises eyebrows at shakespeare*
― MONKEY had been BUMMED by the GHOST of the late prancing paedophile (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link
no way of comparing...
― doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 23:43 (eight years ago) link
i was gonna read Deidre, one of the plays, this week.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 23:56 (eight years ago) link
I'm easily riled but It's been a while since I've seen something that's riled me this much. This is an object lesson on hot to not read a great poem. And how to dress badly to boot. What on earth is she doing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0VuBD-yxVI
― CRANK IT YA FILTHY BISM! (jed_), Sunday, 22 May 2016 03:53 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPB_17rbNXk
― the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Sunday, 22 May 2016 05:05 (seven years ago) link
I've already had that misfortune^. Not the whole thing, obviously.
― CRANK IT YA FILTHY BISM! (jed_), Sunday, 22 May 2016 05:32 (seven years ago) link
"Watch this video on youtube. Playback on other sites has been disabled by this owner"
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 May 2016 09:03 (seven years ago) link
Think I've seen Shaw read Shakespeare on TV. That's when you know your voice is the best voice.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 May 2016 09:09 (seven years ago) link
I know not what the younger dreams --Some vague Utopia -- and she seems,When withered old and skeleton-gaunt,An image of such politics.
― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 04:38 (seven years ago) link
I read a page of a yeats short story aloud yesterday and jeez there was a guy who needed the breaks forced onto him. Rhythm and cadence was there but sentences were running sevenclause deep.
― poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 00:03 (seven years ago) link
yet his Autobiographies is beautiful, and so is a meditational reverie called "Per Amica Silentia Lunae."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 00:11 (seven years ago) link