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Rly awkward overintellectual weirdos r00l tho

Basically / I Don't Wanna Be / An mp3 / 3-2-0 kb / ps (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 31 August 2014 01:36 (nine years ago) link

Yep, he's got plenty of good company if that's the case.

everything, Sunday, 31 August 2014 01:41 (nine years ago) link

xp otm

Gay Fire Beautiful Dong (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 31 August 2014 05:18 (nine years ago) link

Vaporwave did this better

, Sunday, 31 August 2014 13:30 (nine years ago) link

Looks like the new PC Music drop has steered away from the seemingly controversial bubblegum-bass...

It can be found here:
https://soundcloud.com/pcmus/western-beats/s-viika

nxd, Monday, 1 September 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link

ahh yes more insensitive, post-ironic web shlock

"no, you're wrong! it's actually fantastic"

fuck this garbage completely

hackshaw, Monday, 1 September 2014 18:10 (nine years ago) link

insensitive?

imago, Monday, 1 September 2014 18:15 (nine years ago) link

hackshaw I'd like you to explain your accusation

imago, Monday, 1 September 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

new QT single rulz so hard

QT logo would make a kewl tat

http://www.tinymixtapes.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/460_Width/1408/yKZHuK5Y.png

davey, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 10:56 (nine years ago) link

hackshaw has not returned to defend their intellectually decrepit statements

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 12:01 (nine years ago) link

What interests me about pop music and commercial imagery in the first place is that it has the potential to be overwhelming, extravagant and banal all at the same time.

O RLY

i mean, that right there is contempt for pop, as in how pop is rather than your pet imagined version of What Pop Should Be Because Actual Pop Is So Mainstream or whatever

lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 12:32 (nine years ago) link

most pop is a lot more overwhelming and extravagant than any of this shit, though PC Music certainly get banal right

lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 12:33 (nine years ago) link

personally I am shocked someone doesn't want to defend himself against someone who's called his opinion "intellectually decrepit" right out of the gate

katherine, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link

nice, assuming it's a male poster

don't understand what lex's first post there is trying to say

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:45 (nine years ago) link

calling this music 'insensitive' is charlatanry of the most profound order though, post-popist grandstanding nonsense-speak that ideates a notion of pop authenticity that must be protected from deconstruction at all odds. in other words, the sort of shit that should have been extinguished on ilm long ago

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link

all the people who have said "authenticity":

- you and other people who are calling people's posts "charlatanry" or "intellectually decrepit" or "the most repulsive thing I have ever read" for, as far as I can tell, not liking the music as much as they should
- the artist himself

katherine, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link

ah, so we're doing away with context are we? let's hear how the artist mentioned it:

authenticity is a tricky currency

we're the ones making a mockery of any claims to authenticity, as is surely inherent in any accusation of making music that is insensitive

charlatanry/intellectually decrepit/repulsive referred specifically to posts that either ascribed the music's badness to some kind of moral deficiency or posts which projected that a singer would be 'far less famous/wealthy/on track for a career' than the producers she works with, which is entirely up to her to evaluate & demonstrates only the careerist, elitist priorities of the poster imo

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link

yep, you sure got me. how awful of me to hope that artists I find promising go on to a successful career.

katherine, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

Surely there's a msg borad for HR consultants somewhere?

everything, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

it'll turn out that ag cook is a figure of the patriarchy, using hannah diamond for as much as he can wring outta her before dumping her on the kerb as soon as the contract from universal's in front of him, and boy howdy how silly we'll feel then

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link

either you're deliberately trolling at this point or you've got some bet going to prop up as many straw men as possible

katherine, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

simply posting out of frustration that you'd reduce a collaborative piece of music to a projection of gender bias that you've admitted yourself is just a hunch, in order to find fault with it

really hannah diamond should come on right now and speak for herself

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link

...

example (crüt), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link

you're right, no one should find fault in any music ever

katherine, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

i mean in an ideal world she would, i'm not being prescriptive :P

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

"hey qt" is atrocious

example (crüt), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

yep

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

Yeah

, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

find this stuff pretty cynical regardless of the transmitted earnestness in the uh artist statements

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

cmon katherine, that's a weak argument!

srsly, defend the idea that this music lacks merit because the singers are reduced to the level of cipher (any more so than in music you enjoy) - go on

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

don't really need a mediated layer between me and pop music

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

isn't there always one?

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link

when you don't explain yourself you're "intellectually decrepit" and when you do explain yourself you're "the most repulsive thing I've ever read" so no, I get enough fucking hate mail as it is to invite more

katherine, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link

so you're admitting to being hackshaw?

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link

excuse me for not loading all hundred-and-something previous posts of this thread to copy and paste the exact way I was insulted

katherine, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link

isn't there always one?

yeah but it's not totally necessary to the music functioning at all?

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link

i didn't insult you, i merely said your statement was repulsive. possibly overdoing it a bit. everything aimed at hackshaw stands, though, unless hackshaw themselves can explain it in a way that makes any sense at all

it's possible to take this music at face value - when i opened up the youtube initially i did so purely within the context of it being music recommended by ppl i trust

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link

well bc that level of mediation is embedded in the music. this is pop but fuckkkqqqqqkked upppppppp mannnnnn, JUST LIKE POP AND CAPITALISM ACTUALLY ARE

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

it's not that fucked up! it works as pop imo

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link

wasn't insulting you, just saying the things you say are repulsive and intellectually decrepit!!

it's possible to take this music at face value - when i opened up the youtube initially i did so purely within the context of it being music recommended by ppl i trust

it's also possible not to 'take it at face value' so not sure what yr point is

dyl, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

in what universe is "the most repulsive thing I've ever read" not an insult?

as far as explanation, I've already explained myself at length, multiple times (including in a review with a 6/10 score! which is above average!) and do not feel the need to do so again when, as I see it, one side of the "argument" is "I do not hate this music but have reservations about it, which I will now calmly explain" and the other side is "YOU REPULSIVE CRETINS HOW DARE YOU DISLIKE THIS GENIUS SONG."

katherine, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link

it's not even genius, it's just kinda catchy and clever, well made

my argument is not with you disliking it or the fact you have reservations, it's the way the reservations have been expressed, within what i regard as a lamentable stardom/success narrative

hackshaw's intellectual decrepitude is a different matter entirely - calling this music 'insensitive' is absolutely preposterous and after hackshaw failed to respond to my initial challenge i felt i'd up the stakes a bit

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link

i'll take back 'possibly the most repulsive thing i've read on ILM in a very long time' though, because that's almost certainly a gross exaggeration

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

as far as explanation, I've already explained myself at length, multiple times (including in a review with a 6/10 score! which is above average!) and do not feel the need to do so again when, as I see it, one side of the "argument" is "I do not hate this music but have reservations about it, which I will now calmly explain" and the other side is "YOU REPULSIVE CRETINS HOW DARE YOU DISLIKE THIS GENIUS SONG."

from that description I'd say that this music passes the pop test with flying colors (nb: I haven't listened to it yet)

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link

i'll admit my previous post was a little (read: a lot) off base, imago. I've enjoyed "Pink And Blue" previously which is exponentially more heartfelt and irony-free than this new one. I feel as if the nudge and wink is lost on "Hey QT" to the point where it comes off as slightly cynical, and yes, insensitive. take that as you will

hackshaw, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

faaaair enough well i'll disagree on the word itself but that's a dignified response & i shall retract some of the more vituperative language aimed your way

imago, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link

why do you guys have to over-intalectualize everything? i thought this website was called "i love" music

missingNO, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

yah bummer thread but fwiw i luv QT's one song b/c it's fun and silly and i can enjoy it both ironically and sincerely, and rlly it's been p funny to see all the 'serious techno' and pop critic types going into conniptions over it

davey, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link

it's not that fucked up! it works as pop imo

― imago, Tuesday, September 2, 2014 5:07 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

since when has whether something "works as pop" been important to you?

(and it doesn't really)

(it doesn't work as a "deconstruction" of pop either; pop is a pretty good genre at regularly "deconstructing", refracting and commenting on itself, but of course if you don't like or don't listen to mainstream pop you wouldn't know that, so of course you'd think this was something really clever)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link


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