it's not hepburn per se for me, the character just comes off like a psycho
re the apt, i'll admit my own embarrassment over masochistic pining shit in my youth makes me less sympathetic towards portrayals of the archetype today
― da croupier, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
i know i dug the palm beach story when i saw it but couldn't remember anything specific so i didn't vote for it.
― da croupier, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
it's a divorce-com
― Mordy, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
http://thefilmexperience.net/storage/messages-soused.jpg
― Number None, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
I can understand the Hepburn repulsion: the accent, the mannerisms, the range.
yeah idk it's something about her stiff, brittle manner it just really rubs me the wrong way. my wife prob hates her more than I do so I p much never see her stuff anyway. I remember hating African Queen when I saw it in high school.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
number none otm
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 29 August 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
hmph I voted for the Apartment AND Princess Bride, 'alternating'
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 August 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
The Palm Beach Story is just the best.
― I Don't Wanna Ice Bucket With You (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 August 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
And Joel McCrea is damn cute
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 August 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link
yeah Morbz is making a mistaken assumption about the uniformity of people's ballots, most covered both eras
― Οὖτις, Friday, 29 August 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link
Looking at my ballot, I had several movies from the 30s/40s/50s, several from the 80s/90s/00s, but only one from the years between 1960 and 1983. This was not intentional in any way, but I guess there really was a golden age for this stuff in the years around WWII, and the second golden age didn't start until the mid-80s?
― Tuomas, Friday, 29 August 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
Though I think the second golden age is over already? I voted for only a couple of movies from the last 10 years, Safety Not Guaranteed is really the only truly remarkable romcom I've seen in recent years. And even that one stretches the romcom formula quite a lot, though it undoubtedly belongs to the genre. The best "traditional" romcom that I've seen lately is The Mindy Project, which is a TV series.
― Tuomas, Friday, 29 August 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link
My ballot dropped off -- drastically -- after 1950.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 August 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link
I only had 12 on my list, and six were from that 1960-83 bracket. I'm probably doing it all wrong--is there anyone here who lets you know when you're doing it all wrong?
― clemenza, Friday, 29 August 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link
ask Dr. Nadir.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 August 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
idr morbz were you on the action thread complaining too? bc that seems like it'd be even worse in this regard.
I was not, because there were no Hollywood films called "action movies" until the descendants of The French Connection were thoroughly lobotomized and hyperedited inro the sacred work of Mel, Ahnuld and Bruce. There were swashbucklers, cop thrillers, westerns etc, with characterizations instead of catchphrases.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 August 2014 04:54 (nine years ago) link
so there
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 30 August 2014 06:27 (nine years ago) link
in fairness to Morbs, it is awful for him when people have opinions.
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Saturday, 30 August 2014 06:30 (nine years ago) link
only when theyre wrong
I don't care what YOU ppl think about anything, unless you rule the world after Hillary drops the bomb
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 August 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link
Who Bomb the World (Girls)
― a guy named Christian White who represents the typical white Christian (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:04 (nine years ago) link
Morbz you spend hours every day telling us what we think is wrong. You care so much its funny.
― da croupier, Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
complaining about Hepburn being "psycho" in BUB seems kind of like complaining that Bugs Bunny is a psycho, though I can see how her character being the ur-manic pixie feels sour in 2014
― rob, Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link
the point of nice-guy schlub Bud Baxter's awakening in The Apartment is not that he's a DOORMAT, but that he's a PIMP.
why don't you guys diagnose zany housewife Lucy Ricardo next
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link
Is jack Lemmon gonna have to choke a bitch?
― da croupier, Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
when i first saw philadelphia story i was pretty shocked at how casually domestic violence was treated (vis-a-vis cary grant slapping hepburn)
― Mordy, Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link
The unfaceable truth. Wonder what Morbs' Mulholland Dr. fantasy looks like. (All of ILE in a lake of fire, I assume.)
― Malibu Stasi (WilliamC), Saturday, 30 August 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
ugh, ilx in a fantasy wd be worse than dead cats or old nuns
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
oh not THE UNFACEABLE TRUTH
lol
― Malibu Stasi (WilliamC), Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
humming "the unfaceable truth" to the tune of man of la mancha's "the impossible dream"
― Mordy, Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7mxWMvM3NuA/TFCLfVMOETI/AAAAAAAAAPU/oBMqMfo0dOA/s640/unfaithfully_yours.jpg
― rob, Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link
It feels so weird to note that "pimp" is a rather flattering description of a guy who lets his boss and his crush fuck in his apartment
That like, "pimp" suggests a criminal degree of domination and authority over women. That the neighbor assumes he has it is even a running joke in the film
― da croupier, Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link
If he learned he was a pimp the moral would have been to stop abusing women. He learns to stop being abused by his bosses, and is rewarded with respect from a woman.
― da croupier, Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
Ha, I loved that movie as a kid. I haven't seen it in forever though.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 30 August 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link
Am rescreening The Freshman w/Harold Lloyd, and be damned if it doesn't have one of the all-time 'meet cutes' when our hero helps the heroine with her crossword puzzle on the train.
― I Don't Wanna Ice Bucket With You (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 31 August 2014 03:41 (nine years ago) link
saving the rest for Labor Day? the winner is obviously
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-x4r2EfTj-_o/T5TAQYv1HoI/AAAAAAAAAHU/zkjoatvD8EE/s1600/nutty-prof.jpg
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 September 2014 12:45 (nine years ago) link
TCM has an evening of JL on the 11th...gonna try to catch that one.
― Malibu Stasi (WilliamC), Monday, 1 September 2014 12:47 (nine years ago) link
xp my #2 iirc
― a guy named Christian White who represents the typical white Christian (Eric H.), Monday, 1 September 2014 12:48 (nine years ago) link
wish i had voted in this.
philadelphia story is the ur-romantic comedy to me because it's so explicit in articulating the misogynist ideology that dominates so many romantic comedies that came later. i always feel guilty about liking it so much for that reason, but in highlighting the ideology, it makes it available for critique. i know the first time i saw it i was like why are all these men yelling at katherine hepburn for the exact thing that makes her awesome?
also the character of liz makes me so sad/mad.
the only cringy moment is when they make jimmy stewart say all that fires banked down crap.
cary grant is so beautiful.
i have seen this movie at least one hundred times and it still makes me laugh out loud. so, so funny and quick.
― horseshoe, Monday, 1 September 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link
i'm not sure i would have put it at the top of my ballot, though. holiday is more human.
― horseshoe, Monday, 1 September 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link
we're in perfect alignment
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 September 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link
<3
― horseshoe, Monday, 1 September 2014 13:56 (nine years ago) link
and Cary Grant is so damn sleek in it, like an otter
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 September 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link
Tracy Lord's being 'tamed' is sort of a neat prophecy of Hepburn's late career -- say after 1967 -- when she kept doing the kate thing mostly in disposable movies, w/out true bite.
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 September 2014 14:00 (nine years ago) link
(not that it didnt happen earlier, as in that lousy reshot climax to Woman of the Year)
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 September 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link
btw if it hadn't been made for TV i'd have voted for this, her last great comic role
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncs3VO_TtjI
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 September 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link
So, are we gonna get the top 10 soon?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 06:55 (nine years ago) link
results blew away with a gust of wind when Shakey's mother-in-law opened a window
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 11:34 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD55dkiX_ZQ
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 11:39 (nine years ago) link
THAT'd be a RC if the threesome hadn't been cut
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 11:48 (nine years ago) link