The Great ILX Gun Control Debate

The Amazon reviews of My Parents Open Carry are predictably entertaining:

http://www.amazon.com/Parents-carry-Brian-Nathan-Nephew/dp/098317511X

I think what you need to ask yourself is, "Will I be a cooler parent/person after my 9-yo daughter has fired an Uzi?" and if the answer is yes, kill yourself.

Or just let her fire that Uzi. Odds are ...

oh americapaws

Family of instructor killed at Arizona gun range does not blame girl

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/29/us-usa-arizona-shooting-idUSKBN0GT2AA20140829

They... probably could've phrased the headline better.

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That's what we get for hating their freedom.

Coming this Fall... to NBC

i wish that was the poster for 'death wish 6'

surely that bump is about ready to shoot its first Uzi

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The girl's parents asked that their case not be used in the debate.

"Although certain people will seek to use this tragedy for their own partisan purposes and agenda, the family asks all compassionate Americans to pray for their children and the entire Vacca family," their statement said. "Please respect both families' privacy as they seek to deal with this tragic accident."

agree that real incidents have no place in debates on gun safety

only imaginary evidence shd be taken into consideration

If only there were a way such a tragedy could have been avoided.

I really love how any sane person suggesting "this was terrible parenting and now this girl is scarred for life" is just partisan politics. I see where they stand now though. Feel even worse for the girl now.

I'd feel even worse for her if she lived in a place where they did not allow her to fire Uzis.

Presumably, the correct non-partisan attitude would be 'it was a horrible and tragic event, but these things happen, so what can you do? (shrug)'

eh, not really non-partisan enough

if guns were mandatory that child woulda already known how to shoot an uzi and instructor woulda still been alive. also crime would be 0% iirc

Utah teacher shoots herself in the leg at elementary school

If someone with a gun was there they could have shot her before this happened.

why does the Salt Lake Tribune have a "Polygamy" section

onetwo guesses

papers have to compete with craigslist somehow

fb comments creepfest on that one this morning

there should be some sort of honor code about accidentally discharging your weapon where you have to throw it into the ocean if it happens or something.

maybe have The Rock say it in a movie next summer

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/18/us/florida-deadly-shooting/index.html?c=homepage-t

if only those children had been armed

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https://vine.co/v/MjlE0Qb3P5b

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/12/us/gun-control-gun-rights-pew-survey.html?smid=tw-nytimes

sigh. this is what happens when the SC creates from whole cloth the "right" to own guns

http://www.krem.com/story/news/local/kootenai-county/2014/12/30/deadly-shooting-kills-hayden-walmart-shopper/21058855/

http://thegazette.com/subject/opinion/guest-columnists/i-carry-a-gun-every-day-20150104

I’m “that guy.” I know that bad things happen. Every day. Everywhere. So I try to be aware. I try to study my surroundings. I expect to not see it coming every time. I expect that evil may show up while I’m shopping or walking through the mall or eating at a restaurant. It doesn’t make me crazy. It doesn’t make me paranoid. It simply makes me aware. Unlike a lot of people that walk by me every day. Looking at their phones, their notes, their purses, or any of the other distractions that plague us. I get it.

I also get that there are wolves. Hungry. Lean. Skilled at their trade. Studying you. Studying me. They like you. They don’t like me. I see them at the mall. I see them at the gas station. I see them right here in this town. Do they know I’m armed? No, they don’t. They know that I’m aware. I look at them. Kill them with kindness. It’s a like a mutual agreement. I see you; you see me. Let’s not kid each other.

I guess it must be exciting to live that way. He makes every trip to the grocery store sound like Escape From New York.

Basically that's how every trip to the grocery store feels to me, except I'm not packing. I'm constantly thinking about how to get myself/my kids out in case of some crazy gunman. Also, I don't make any sort of ridiculous assumption that the people around me are the "wolves".

Maybe he's literally talking about wolves? We've had a couple of mornings where a coyote on the school grounds meant my little ones had to be ushered in early. I should start packing heat, because you never know when they might turn up at malls or the gas station.

Yup, every day is Snake Plissken in The Grey

Just another day in Iowa.

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Oh man, I used to see coyotes occasionally in San Diego. Only once out here in MD though and that was about 30 years ago. Was thinking the other day about how cool it would be to see one strolling around the neighborhood, but I bet that at least one of my neighbors would freak out over it and shoot it or whatever.

Coyotes are pretty much everywhere in the lower 48 now I think. I was in a traffic slowdown in a neighborhood here (East Tennessee) a year ago, and it turned out the cause was a coyote sort of casually loping down the road. A good number of missing cats have been attributed to them.

My friend in LA told me the coyotes are so smart, they send their little pups out to play with dog pups. They lure them back where the grown coyote parent can swoop in and kill it.

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wolf and sheep is standard gun-dude lingo, with "sheepdog" being the exalted state of armed goodguy

They don’t stay awake late at night watching videos from self-defense experts. They don’t read the articles. They don’t look at unedited news on the Internet. They don’t search out the videos of people fighting for their lives and losing.

All the animals come out at night - whores, skunk pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies, sick, venal. Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.

I know that bad things happen. Every day. Everywhere. So I try to be aware. I try to study my surroundings. I expect to not see it coming every time. I expect that evil may show up while I’m shopping or walking through the mall or eating at a restaurant. It doesn’t make me crazy. It doesn’t make me paranoid. It simply makes me aware.

Coincidentally, women do this a lot too. "Who do I know on this block? Can I run to that open deli in time? Does he really have a gun? What am I carrying that can be a weapon?"