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lol i was gonna say, i just search for 'grothendieck' and then


j. wrote this on thread ℝolliℵg M∀th Thr∑a∂ on board I Love Everything on Jun 30, 2014

every time i want to find this thread i just search for 'grothendieck'

O_0 i think this is the start of something

j., Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link

Has the Grothendieck prime come up on this thread yet?

Visions of Mojo Hannah (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link

What is relation between sheaf and tangent bundle? Aka How do I shot sheaf?

The Wu-Tang Declan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 August 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

ack. the general notion of a sheaf i understand only through general abstract nonsense. a tangent bundle involves differential geometry or generalized smooth spaces or something, which gets dangerously close to actual numbers and spaces. i'm of no help there.

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Monday, 1 September 2014 00:27 (nine years ago) link

You toss it iirc

http://www.heideland-games.de/files/12-06-30_strohsackhochwurf3.jpg

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, 1 September 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link

pictured: mirror universe in orbit

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Monday, 1 September 2014 01:10 (nine years ago) link

Sterling, you got some phase planing to do!

The Wu-Tang Declan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2014 01:12 (nine years ago) link

Sorry

The Wu-Tang Declan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 September 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link

Sterling, you got some phase planing to do!

― The Wu-Tang Declan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, August 31, 2014 9:12 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

by this you mean you want me to explain my phrases more clearly?

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 04:33 (nine years ago) link

No, just making a bad joke.

Good Time Charlie Don't Surf (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link

this is 100% a stupid question but still.

I used to be really good at maths in school, didn't carry it on to university, but recently I've got the urge to take it up again. I play a lot of numerical puzzles and things but I really want to do problems and spend time trying to work things out again. Yeah, I know that's embarrassing. Anyway, are there such things as maths books for adults that you can buy that have problems and examples etc or would I just be better off picking up secondary school books?

gyac, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

I used to be really good at maths in school, didn't carry it on to university, but recently I've got the urge to take it up again. I play a lot of numerical puzzles and things but I really want to do problems and spend time trying to work things out again. Yeah, I know that's embarrassing. Anyway, are there such things as maths books for adults that you can buy that have problems and examples etc or would I just be better off picking up secondary school books?

Yes! I recommend Strogatz's books:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0544105850/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1535523722&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=0691150389&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=17CZ8R5ZTVM1NJ77SRYC

A terrific introduction to mathematics. It starts with arithmetic and ends with calculus and abstract algebra. His writing is terrific, regardless of subject.

http://www.amazon.com/Calculus-Friendship-Teacher-Student-Corresponding/dp/0691150389/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1410292988&sr=1-1&keywords=calculus+of+friendship

Is also very good. The problems within illustrate the usefulness of calculus.

Textbooks are trickier. Are you familiar with algebra or trigonometry?

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

Yes, both. Trigonometry was actually one of my favourite parts of the course. I'm really more after textbooks rather than books on the topic, but thank you for the recommendations.

gyac, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link

Word. I love http://www.amazon.com/Calculus-4th-Michael-Spivak/dp/0914098918. Take it slow. :D

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

Whiplash of nostalgia on seeing the book front on Amazon, though mine must've been an earlier edition (as it was 20+ years ago).

Just this weekend got back into redoing my Masters from that time, which was in algorithmics so a few levels below sterling's. But so satisfying to work out an equation for "What are the points equidistant to these two points and this line", and see an set of clattering clauses snap into a simpler form.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link

Only have little Spivak.

Good Time Charlie Don't Surf (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link

You know, Calculus on Manifolds

Santiniketan Go Straight To The Ghat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link

I actually ended up folding and buying an advanced secondary school maths book BUT I have wishlisted that recommendation for later, I don't want to get into it and find I can't do any of it and then get discouraged...so thank you for the rec, much appreciated!

gyac, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

yeah I have discouraged myself on various occasions since graduating trying to sit down and do random math problems from The Art of Computer Programming almost completely cold.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link

TAOCP is my favorite non-analysis analysis textbook. Concrete Mathematics has some fun problems too.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 11 September 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link

Song about topology:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chh78JcKfoA

Colossal Propellerhead (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 September 2014 01:33 (nine years ago) link

gyac, if you have a good university bookstore or used bookstore in a college area around, you might browse through their dover books selection and see if there's anything to your liking on a given topic. many dover books are old textbooks picked up and reprinted by the publisher, and there are several that try to be inviting in among the fairly hard-nosed coursebooks (especially considering that older textbooks were a lot less hand-holdy).

j., Sunday, 14 September 2014 02:01 (nine years ago) link

^^^otm

Colossal Propellerhead (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 September 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link

Think even B&N has some Dover books on the shelves. Used to actually be a Dover bookstore in an office building on Lower Broadway. You could just go to the virtual store: http://store.doverpublications.com/

In addition to the maths book you might also want to pick up http://store.doverpublications.com/0486783405.html

Colossal Propellerhead (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 September 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link

Hello dere

Code Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 September 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link

spent the evening perusing the works of shinichi mochizuki

http://cdn.tokyotimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/abc-conjecture-300x2001.jpg

the late great, Saturday, 20 September 2014 07:18 (nine years ago) link

http://www.heidelberg-laureate-forum.org/de/laureate/alexander-grothendieck/

dudes

j., Sunday, 21 September 2014 14:30 (nine years ago) link

Wow.

But what about his prime?

Code Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 September 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link

^must read

Code Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 September 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link

http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/top-english.html

http://projectwordsworth.com/the-paradox-of-the-proof/

^^ more than a year old, sorry

the late great, Sunday, 21 September 2014 21:17 (nine years ago) link

Interesting.

Keep meaning to post this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chh78JcKfoA

Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 01:31 (nine years ago) link

Here are two Dover books I found quite useful and readable:

Advanced Calculus, by David V. Widder
Introduction to Partial Differential Equations with Applications, by E. C. Zachmanoglou, Dale W. Thoe
Mathematics of Classical and Quantum Physics by Frederick W. Byron, Jr. and Robert W. Fuller

And here are some Springer-Verlag Undergraduate Texts in Mathematics that I found readable and useful:
Finite-Dimensional Vector Spaces, by Paul R. Halmos
Linear Algebra: An Introduction to Abstract Mathematics, by Robert J. Valenza
Groups and Symmetry, by M.A. Armstrong
Basic Topology, by M.A. Armstrong

Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:06 (nine years ago) link

Add to the latter list
Transformation Geometry: An Introduction to Symmetry, by George E. Martin

Wow, I guess these Springer Undergraduate books cost almost twice as much as when I bought them. Guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:13 (nine years ago) link

Much discussion about whether this is actually a 2014 photo of Grothendieck but general feeling seems to be yes:

http://www.heidelberg-laureate-forum.org/de/laureate/alexander-grothendieck/

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link

Is he going to be part of an upcoming Os Mutantes reunion in that getup?

Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

Oh, I get it, those are his monastic vestments.

Dear Catastrophe Theory Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link

someone explain the monty hall problem to me please. i just read this

http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.monty.hall.html

and it SORT of made sense, but at the bottom the guy gives an example of a 1000-door problem, saying that if monty shows 998 goats, your chance of finding the car out of the final 2 doors is 999/1000 if you switch. this just seems like it cannot be right. doesn't that assume that monty has no knowledge of where the car is?

k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:05 (nine years ago) link

wait i think i get it now

k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:21 (nine years ago) link

Monty does know.

The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:25 (nine years ago) link

it's not a 50/50 at the end because you still have the 1/1000 chance of guessing right originally. since the host shows you 998 goats, the remaining door HAS to have the car if you didn't guess right at the beginning. and the odds of you not guessing right at the beginning are 999/1000

k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:26 (nine years ago) link

that was fun

k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:30 (nine years ago) link

You got it

The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link

I just tried to write out a game-theoretic interpretation, and then I tried to apply Bayes' theorem, but I got stuck on both of those.

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link

but yeah rly the answer is "because Bayes' theorem is true"

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link

you got it anyway though, hooray!

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link

monty hall is deep and subtle

the late great, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link


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