The Great ILX Gun Control Debate

The video is horrifying

america is horrifying!

she was no angel.

Congrats to those parents, though, for scarring the child with the experience of killing a man when she's this young.

my first thought when i heard the story this morning.

so stupid

How on earth are you allowed to set up shop as a family attraction based around firing military grade automatic weaponry

there's a sign for a place in Green Bay called "Family Shooting Academy" that I always laugh at. cute logo:

http://img2.findthebest.com/sites/default/files/280/media/images/Family_Shooting_Academy__329725.png

Danas questioned why the instructor in Arizona was standing immediately to the left of the Uzi, which would have recoiled in that direction.

"It's an awful shame," he said. "He shouldn't have been to the left side of the gun... But that child should not have been shooting anything other than a single-shot firearm."

Danas, whose daughters are 11 and 13, said his girls learned to shoot when they were 4 years old, with a single-shot, .22-caliber pistol.

at least use a pellet gun, sheesh

I mean, right? Or one that fires blanks or something?

or just do something else entirely

http://www.myparentsopencarry.com/

http://i.imgur.com/KXNCu61.jpg

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2014/08/26/bitter-irony/

Plus, in other gun culture news . . .

The star of the Discovery Channel’s reality show Sons of Guns was arrested Tuesday on charges of aggravated rape of his daughter.

According to FoxNews.com, the East Baton Rouge, Louisiana Sheriff’s Department confirmed that Hayden is accused of raping his 14-year-old daughter in a series of assaults that began with him taking her virginity at the age of 11.

TMZ reported that Hayden’s daughter is backing up the allegations, claiming that her father forced her to participate in oral and vaginal sex “almost daily” for the past three years.

http://myparentsopencarry.com/images/tdtrlogo.jpg

The range owner said the instructor who died was a very close friend, like a brother to him. And then defended keeping the range open and continuing to hold CHILDREN'S BIRTHDAY PARTIES involving firearms.

Basically if I were his actual brother I might be worried.

By god men didn't fight and die so children could be stripped of the right to be made to shoot Uzis by their crappy parents

seriously. even if your kid genuinely wants to shoot a gun, she can probably be satisfied with playing baseball for awhile.

The Amazon reviews of My Parents Open Carry are predictably entertaining:

http://www.amazon.com/Parents-carry-Brian-Nathan-Nephew/dp/098317511X

I think what you need to ask yourself is, "Will I be a cooler parent/person after my 9-yo daughter has fired an Uzi?" and if the answer is yes, kill yourself.

Or just let her fire that Uzi. Odds are ...

oh americapaws

Family of instructor killed at Arizona gun range does not blame girl

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/29/us-usa-arizona-shooting-idUSKBN0GT2AA20140829

They... probably could've phrased the headline better.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/arena_images/131922/original_be819b4a974201ffbab47f862ad1217d.jpg

That's what we get for hating their freedom.

Coming this Fall... to NBC

i wish that was the poster for 'death wish 6'

surely that bump is about ready to shoot its first Uzi

http://media.theonion.com/images/articles/article/378/Pre-Natal-Shooting_jpg_600x1000_q85.jpg

The girl's parents asked that their case not be used in the debate.

"Although certain people will seek to use this tragedy for their own partisan purposes and agenda, the family asks all compassionate Americans to pray for their children and the entire Vacca family," their statement said. "Please respect both families' privacy as they seek to deal with this tragic accident."

agree that real incidents have no place in debates on gun safety

only imaginary evidence shd be taken into consideration

If only there were a way such a tragedy could have been avoided.

I really love how any sane person suggesting "this was terrible parenting and now this girl is scarred for life" is just partisan politics. I see where they stand now though. Feel even worse for the girl now.

I'd feel even worse for her if she lived in a place where they did not allow her to fire Uzis.

Presumably, the correct non-partisan attitude would be 'it was a horrible and tragic event, but these things happen, so what can you do? (shrug)'

eh, not really non-partisan enough

if guns were mandatory that child woulda already known how to shoot an uzi and instructor woulda still been alive. also crime would be 0% iirc

Utah teacher shoots herself in the leg at elementary school

If someone with a gun was there they could have shot her before this happened.

why does the Salt Lake Tribune have a "Polygamy" section

onetwo guesses

papers have to compete with craigslist somehow

fb comments creepfest on that one this morning

there should be some sort of honor code about accidentally discharging your weapon where you have to throw it into the ocean if it happens or something.

maybe have The Rock say it in a movie next summer

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/18/us/florida-deadly-shooting/index.html?c=homepage-t

if only those children had been armed