Abandoned Amusement/Fun Parks

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They've demolished / are in the process of demolishing it apparently

, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 12:43 (nine years ago) link

Terrible. Also: some amazing details in that article.

Mit Bilder und Video: http://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/treptow-koepenick/feuer-wuetete-im-spreepark-es-war-brandstiftung

Doctor Casino, Monday, 15 September 2014 01:52 (nine years ago) link

omg!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PJtiVxG6Ig

EMA Sumac (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

Also on this thread, but I think there's a fair amount of crossover between them: Desolation Photography Thread (aka Ruins Porn)

emil.y, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

I suppose kayak slalom courses, baseball parks, and beach volleyball venues constitute fun parks, certainly there was plenty of fun here for participants and spectators of the 2004 Athens Olympics, but ten years later the facilities built for them lay in ruin. It seems canoeing or baseball don't draw thousands of paying spectators in Greece.

http://cdn2.wi.gcs.trstatic.net/y0vXY7s8VDjjyQpkHbBpRWTVGm-vpvi3JrB0m0-DYR5jyJepF6MccgolPwCm6qG7b8FNiAZlKS7ihHlhMYNftw

http://www.businessinsider.com/abandoned-athens-olympics-venues-2014-8

Lee626, Friday, 19 December 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

Just felt a chill when I realized that the roller coaster I almost fell off of as a child looks like this

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/68e7193ca64a6b7f75a4b98d38bf1136d6aab7ba/c=0-0-1024-768&r=x513&c=680x510/local/-/media/WKYC/WKYC/2014/05/15//1400164857012-8466065735-1679dcdcb5-b.jpg

and my favorite childhood mall looks like this

http://media2.newsnet5.com/photo/2015/02/09/mall5_1423518321994_13202276_ver1.0_640_480.jpg

what's next, a tree growing straight through the center of my parents' house? full rat infestation of my elementary school? i didn't know where else to put this so i put it here.

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Thursday, 30 April 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link

I can see why you felt a chill.

My poor grandmother, I remember one Christmas taking her shopping. She said, let's head for the mall up on Austin Peay. We pull into the surprisingly empty parking lot and the mall looked pretty much like this:

http://i.imgur.com/GyOTa48.jpg

Oh, she said. I guess I hadn't seen that in the paper.

pplains, Thursday, 30 April 2015 13:53 (eight years ago) link

i still haven't gotten a satisfying answer to why someone doesn't just raze these places and use the land for something else. why are these structures still there? i've heard "tax shelter" as an excuse/reason but I don't have any details about the financial benefits that provides. Esp compared with the blight of a large structure whose innards are covered in SNOW. when i was in hs kids used to hang out at the abandoned factories around town (RIP rust belt) but i doubt they're hanging out in the snow mall.

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:03 (eight years ago) link

idk, my assumption would be it costs less to just leave it decay than it does to try to demolish and redevelop? but who knows rly

gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 30 April 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link

I'm not a real estate head at all, but a few open-ended guesses:

For amusement parks, there is a history of redeveloping them, discussed a bit by Judith Adams in her history of the genre. The first-generation fun parks (Progressive era, Coney Island era) were often very attractive redevelopment opportunities in the postwar era. Since they'd been built by trolley companies (to draw people onto the lines on the weekends) they were almost by definition well-located for developing commuter suburbs: within the sphere of the city, but out at the edge (the end of the line, that is). Whether there was good or bad automobile infrastructure was probably a factor. Meanwhile they'd become totally unprofitable as parks (competing with TV, the movies, other diversions) and were, in any case, pretty easy to demolish. Some of them included a lot of "park-like" land (attractive for subdivision settings), as well, since, Coney aside, the typical pre-Disney amusement park was as much about wholesome picnics and concerts at the bandshell as anything else. More recent (post-Disneyland) parks, I don't know about... the only ones I've thought much about are still going concerns. Why something similar couldn't happen at Geauga Lake, I don't know. Looking at the site from space, it doesn't seem like there's just tons of development pressure in the area - there's still active farmland, for example. So maybe if you're a developer it just seems easier to look elsewhere.

Malls might be a little more complicated. Again, just speculating, but if you're looking to build anything other than a mall (which has already proven to be a failure on the very spot), mall sites might really be an albatross. They're enormous and covered with asphalt and concrete, which you'll have to rip out unless you're going with something very similar to a mall. The mall building itself is going to be expensive to demolish. They're zoned for a certain density of commercial, which again has failed, so you have to think about some other use. They're typically located at the intersections of big roads (let's say six lanes-ish) or even completely surrounded by them, and are probably near lots of other parking-lot commercial retail, in general not super attractive for residential subdivision, not to mention the possible difficulties of platting them out and laying infrastructure. They are not near transit, which is unfortunate since otherwise they could be prime opportunities for some kind of transit-oriented mixed-use scheme (assuming you could get it rezoned). My best guess would be "office park" but maybe that's not remunerative enough to justify dealing with any of this. If you're the owner, you're probably undercapitalized since you are someone who owns dead malls, so doing any of this out of pocket is impossible and getting it financed might be tricky since the bank/investors might basically think "why don't we put our money in some other guy who has land not burdened with all these added costs?"

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

Different things would apply in the case of the rare downtown mall obviously. Columbus OH tore theirs down just a few years back (having built it in the 80s to compete with the suburban malls). Not as unattractive of a parcel of land, but also the downtown is already kind of saturated with office space and is only in its first years of becoming attractive to yuppies and building new housing and so on. The city bought it back in the 2000s after basically threatening to evict the current management/ownership on the grounds that they were incompetent to the point of negligence (by this point it was a definitively dead mall). They kept the well-used parking garage and tore down the mall to make a "commons," which at the time appeared to be basically a holding action: develop it in a low-impact way, leaving it open for the machinations of the next smooth talker to sail into town with a strawboater and a song.

Kind of amazingly, some (admittedly undistinguished) new buildings have gone up on the flanking, street-side parcels, though they don't use their park frontage as effectively as they might. They suggest that the property might in fact remain a viable "central park" as downtown continues to yuppify and fill in its many, many parking lots and missing teeth. (There are bigger, arguably better parks not far away, but the density goes way down and the parking lot quantity goes way up thataway). Who knows, in twenty years the mall dying might prove to be the best thing to ever happen to the city.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link

I was at the light this morning looking at this very worn-out Pizza Hut, wondering how they stay in business.

http://i.imgur.com/vXFLma1.png

And like the Waffle House next door that got turned into a Chinese restaurant, Pizza Huts are notorious for being transformed into other places of business. In 2035, will we be driving past "the old Chipotle that's now an insurance office" or saying "You can tell that it was a Chik-fil-A, the waiting room is where the playground used to be."

pplains, Thursday, 30 April 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

http://notfoolinganybody.com/?indexPost=1058 glad to see this site is still going (I think)?

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link

We have a KFC turned into an independent Mexican sit-down restaurant up the street. It looks a ton better, but was probably the worst Mexican food I've ever eaten.

how's life, Thursday, 30 April 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link

it's going to take me a while to digest all that but in the meantime if you're into malls you gotta know about this guy! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_J._DeBartolo,_Sr.

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Thursday, 30 April 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

I think the best idea for redeveloping a mall would be a school. You've got rooms, wiring, parking, food prep areas, communal areas. Why not turn it into a small college? Oh right because no one wants to build a college ;_;
The one where I work is a Frankenstein's monster of a building, part of which used to be a movie studio. We have large meetings there now.

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Friday, 1 May 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...
five months pass...
one month passes...

Jean Renaudie/Studio Montrouge at the top - he did a lot of stuff in that vein, in some very industrial/Red neighborhoods; I've poked around the ones in Ivry-sur-Seine, pictured above, and Saint-Denis. Some apects strike me as very livable and fabulous, others very bleak and challenging, and others just kinda "there." The Cité des Etoiles, outside Lyon in a much greener setting, looks spectacular. Renaudie was IIRC an unreformed old commie and really 100% believed in what he was doing as a project for a better and more humane life for the working class. There was a monograph a few years ago which I remember enjoying even if I don't think it 100% clarified the payoff of all those triangular layouts beyond maximizing light/views/connection to the terraces. Wonder how the hell you occupy/furnish some of those spaces.

Having a very hard time seeing "modernist" next to Ricardo Bofill's 1980s work (the other two). They are almost textbook post-modernist, with the in-your-face classical allusions and general interest in playing with semiotic meaning (or telling "jokes") not to mention the framing of legible exterior space (courtyards) rather than objects sitting in a field. Some of the latter part certainly overlaps with late modernism but lumping them together with Émile Aillaud's towers in Nanterre (which are of similar date but a totally different 'generation' design-wise), as this article does, is a bit annoying. /architecturalhistorian

shandemonium padawan (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link

nine months pass...
two years pass...

!!!!

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:43 (five years ago) link

amazing that these clone-stamped mcmansioncastles somehow failed to set the turkish housing market alight

kiss me dadly (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 13:49 (five years ago) link

The proportions are so strange.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link

Reminds me of those Chinese imitation euro towns no one would actually live in.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 03:40 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

Appropriately, this thread is filled with dead links and abandoned websites.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 9 April 2022 00:39 (two years ago) link


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