Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

in the '90s bitchmade meant 'awesome' (probably?)

some good news:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/female-adults-oust-teenage-boys-largest-gaming-demographic/

have not investigated much beyond headlines but apparently a couple internet creepo types made a 'documentary' 'exposing' anita sarkeesian (sp)

just a heads up i guess

or 'are making' more accurately

why can't any of these be as entertaining as "In Search of Bigfoot"

re: the documentary, I liked a lot about this piece:

http://badassdigest.com/2014/08/26/video-games-misogyny-and-terrorism-a-guide-to-assholes

But it’s hard to self-identify as “a gamer” when there’s also a large swathe of that community apparently committed to presenting us all as a bunch of hateful sociopaths. It’s like being a moderate Muslim in the middle of the continuing ISIS takeover and oppression of Iraq.

heh

Maybe the ISIS dudes met on 4chan.

since even relative-anonymity on the internet makes ppl act like assholes, obv the answer is:

http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/panopticon-diagram.jpg

haha why didn't i watch this before

these guys are amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROHvvtUcp8I

Watched some of that a few days ago and it took me three minutes to figure out it wasn't a parody. The 'tasche dude is unreal.

*'tache*

oh god i'm terrified of that

the standy-up guy likes some Ayn Rand too so y'know

Wow, have you looked at mustachioed guy's channel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdkB2-kqbrw&list=UU6TJdRrZR_WacbxJWiRZ5_g

god, they're so fucking boring

http://www.funnymemes.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/mOtVh6v.gif

He's like a dozen different kinds of creep all at once. I'm dreading this video titled 'The Jewish Question'.

^interest peaked^

Unless the answer is "Try the rugelach, you'll like it," run

Anyway, Feminist Frequency's new video is good stuff. The scene she shows from God of War III is incredible.

yeah having tuned out AAA games for the past 5 years or so (except for skyrim) i was amazed/horrified by that god of war clip

is it notably worse than the fucking QTE from gow 1?

That isn't even the worst scene in God of War III, btw, it's just one that fits the parameters of Anita's theme for the video. There's a scene that isn't a background detail that is sooooo vile.

AAA games are absolutely rife with this shit and it's not even a little bit of a secret
it's part of why i'm more forgiving of the mawkish indie variety of mopey games where the sexism is more fedora'd a'la Braid

Braid wore a trilby iirc

lol wtf

https://twitter.com/dankmtl/status/505101945976422401

needs more game informer
also notable lack of joystiq and kotaku, must mean something

Lolling hard at Jim Sterling being on there, the guy who called any woman who dared to disagree with him a "feminazi slut"

It seems he had a Damascene moment at some point in the last 3 years
http://www.gamingaswomen.com/posts/2013/06/an-interview-with-jim-sterling-about-sexism-in-game-culture/

why is there a kotaku uk

most 15 year-old nerds too lazy to learn japanese

I've been watching the feminist frequency videos over past couple of days (specifically the damsels in distress trilogy). They are seriously good/depressing.

Watched that one about women in background and sadly that bit from GOW 3 is typical. The first two games were cert good but with a fair amount of uncomfortable moments like that (not just against women).

Well, let me know if I'm seeing that scene the way you are. I haven't played this game, so I'm basing everything I know about it on that scene alone. The player gets an achievement called "I didn't do it... but I wish I did." I think this is meant to read "I didn't rape her... but I wish I did." The only alternative reading I can think of is "I didn't kill her, etc.", but that doesn't make sense, since he did kill her by jamming her into the door mechanism. It could be that the game designers are such morons that they think this wasn't really killing her, because it wasn't the entire and essential purpose of the action or something. I won't credit them with not being morons.

If the first reading is most plausible, then the idea of a rape achievement goes well beyond uncomfortable. I really didn't think mainstream games had stooped that low. And this is the shit that gets 9/10.

do all AAA games have boobs in them now? did the esrb throw in the towel?

i mean what the everloving fuck
http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/27/6075179/anita-sarkeesian-says-she-was-driven-out-of-house-by-threats
https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/504718160902492160/photo/1

feel kinda like "casual" needs to be removed from the thread title

just watched the FF episode; good work

They are seriously good/depressing.

lol

https://twitter.com/MichaelToole/status/503576805169586176

Huh, there's some serious overlap between anti-feminist vloggers and atheist vloggers.

Almost find the hundreds of people lining up to post variations on 'I don't support death threats but isn't the real problem how this overshadows Sarkeesian being wrong' creepier than the full-bore psychopaths.

it's weird, you'd think minds unfettered from primitive superstition wd be less fucken stupid

apparently doesnt help too much

was thinking like 90% of video games is just killing the hell out of thousands of human beings which is irl considered as bad or worse than sexual assault, and studies have tended to show that video games dont make people actually do murder, the defenders of said sexist imagery cld at least attempt to defend themselves by arguing that its an amoral symbolic landscape that doesnt operate in the same way as the real world, except that then they go and behave as exactly a literal projection of that same subhuman sexist garbage and completely discredit their whole scene and make life miserable for those just trying to get a word in edgewise

and these dudes being like "stop insulting 'gamers'!" right after someone has pointed out that a near-hegemony play video games, but people who feel the need to self-identify in that way are gutter trash who are acting like shitty games targeted to trash males is a way of life and not just a segment with disproportionate marketing budgets targeted to their shitty whims

like 90% of video games is just killing the hell out of thousands of human beings

Yeah, this is a fairly common "rebuttal" to the feminist critique - the idea that everyone is killed regardless of gender. However, it doesn't deal with the fact that only men are given agency in this landscape. The point is that women are only things to be murdered, whereas men get to be both subject and object.

(But then of course when you say this someone inevitably goes "well, what about Lara Croft?" and you have to roll your eyes and go, "oh, okay, just 99.99999% of games, then".)

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