Crystal Castles

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Fun fact: Once i was in brooks brothers shopping for ties and they were playing Celestica.

Treeship, Thursday, 21 August 2014 01:42 (nine years ago) link

are you sure it wasn't "affection"?

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Thursday, 21 August 2014 02:22 (nine years ago) link

100% sure, 100% of the time. Guaranteed.™

Treeship, Thursday, 21 August 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link

as long as that's the one without the lead singer of the cure whose name escapes me at the moment

markers, Thursday, 21 August 2014 02:48 (nine years ago) link

^gets it. The original version of not in love (w/ Alice Glass vocals) is infinitely better

Treeship, Thursday, 21 August 2014 02:52 (nine years ago) link

I dont want to be all "I prefer the early stuff" but AIR WAR was as good as it got for me with these guys. Second album was ok, third one was rubbish.

everyday sheeple (Michael B), Thursday, 21 August 2014 11:46 (nine years ago) link

'Not in Love' is good, I think after hearing the Platinum Blonde original kinda makes me wanna hear more power-stadium-pop mix ups by CC.

nxd, Thursday, 21 August 2014 11:53 (nine years ago) link

I'm thinking 'Surrender'

nxd, Thursday, 21 August 2014 12:07 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Alice has announced on Twitter that she is leaving the band.

http://twitter.com/ALICEGLASS

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 11:44 (nine years ago) link

you are nothing without your robot car, poetry girl

Boston Bun is also an electronic music artist (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 13:10 (nine years ago) link

this sucks, although i understand it. the most recent crystal castles album was good but felt redundant. the first two albums are classics of the late aughts.

Treeship, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 13:26 (nine years ago) link

this sucks, although i understand it. the most recent crystal castles album was good but felt redundant. the first two albums are classics of the late aughts.

― Treeship, Wednesday, October 8, 2014 8:26 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it feels like a shame, but then, successive releases would have likely continued this trend. so it's probably for the best. maybe her solo stuff won't suck?

Indexed, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link

and so castles made of crystal, fall into the sistal, eventuallistal

john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 14:44 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

having fallen hard for III this week, so, i have just ordered I and II via amazon marketplace

total price incl. postage : £6.66

how more goth can you get.

mark e, Thursday, 23 October 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

happened to listen to crystal castles (ii) today. was reminded of what bullshit the robert smith version of "not in love" is.

Treeship, Thursday, 19 November 2015 01:38 (eight years ago) link

used to be heavy on one of my pandora stations, a really good productivity music band iirc

INTOXICATING LIQUORS (art), Thursday, 19 November 2015 01:43 (eight years ago) link

classic band

Treeship, Thursday, 19 November 2015 01:45 (eight years ago) link

even if they plagiarized posters or whatever

Treeship, Thursday, 19 November 2015 01:46 (eight years ago) link

nine months pass...

new album, guess no one cares anymore

it me, Friday, 19 August 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Quite a journey from first to last post huh

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link

Most recent album was pretty good. Alice Glass ep was even better.

fffv, Friday, 6 October 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Alice Glass has just posted more fully about Ethan Kath and why she left the band. Trigger warnings noted, this is not an easy read.

http://www.alice-glass.com/cc/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

holy fuck that is horrible

Simon H., Tuesday, 24 October 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

this is really awful. I love the first two crystal castles albums but they won’t sound the same to me anymore. i was always a fan of her vocals. she seemed so powerful — sometimes frightening — i never would have imagined that this was the actual dynamic in that band.

Treeship, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link

Wow, what a tough read. Kudos to her for finally getting out from his manipulative, abusive grip and calling him out on it.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

this is really awful. I love the first two crystal castles albums but they won’t sound the same to me anymore. i was always a fan of her vocals. she seemed so powerful — sometimes frightening — i never would have imagined that this was the actual dynamic in that band.

― Treeship, Tuesday, October 24, 2017 6:57 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, this. Although we may have to have the good old bad-people-often-make-good-art-but-actually-let's-not-financially-support-this-fuck conversation.

Also, this story is out of the blue to me (and to this thread) but apparently it's not the first time she's spoken out - from the Crystal Castles Wikipedia page;

In early 2016, the band was included in the announced lineup for the 79 Cents event at SXSW, a concert showcase organized by Tumblr to highlight women's income disparity. Shortly after, this choice was criticized by former member Alice Glass:

As someone who knew Ethan Kath on a personal and professional level, it is my opinion that he is not an appropriate artist to be performing at a feminism-centric event.
— Alice Glass, in interview with The Verge

In reaction to this statement, the band was removed from the lineup.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 12:29 (six years ago) link

didn't these guys use a woman with a black eye as an album cover once

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:42 (six years ago) link

can we change thread title to Crystal Castles (suck)

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link

Idk “Black Panther” and the album version of “Not in Love” are amazing tracks

Treeship, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link

xp It was Madonna with a black eye, and they were sued by the artist for using it without his permission.

http://i51.tinypic.com/wmmqtf.jpg

It was pretty bad then, much worse with this context now.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link

I never really thought about the dude. My emotional investment in the band was based on loving the albums and being a fan of her as a vocalist, performer, and personality. So it’s an odd situation in terms of what to think of this material now.

Treeship, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:56 (six years ago) link

Jesus I forgot about that.

Treeship, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link

Xp

Treeship, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link

I would also request that mods remove "rule" from the thread title

Simon H., Wednesday, 25 October 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

I never listened to this band but is their music really no longer good

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

don't need it replaced with "sucks" or whatever it's just....a little uncomfortable to leave it as is

Simon H., Wednesday, 25 October 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

Crystal Castles (problematic)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link

Maybe start a new thread? I know that ilx unlike other boards does encourage the use of older threads, but rather than retconning the opinions of a decade ago we could just move the discussion to somewhere with a more appropriate title.

emil.y, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link

looks like somebody fixed it

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 23:55 (six years ago) link

Didn't we already knew Ethan Kath was a huge douchebag? He wrote this when Alice released her first solo single:

https://i.imgur.com/0VNlN10.png

yeah you totally don't care dude

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:10 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/0VNlN10.png

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:11 (six years ago) link

yeah I remember that happening, and people generally thinking he was a fucking dickbag because of it. I certainly never gave them any time again after she left

akm, Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:13 (six years ago) link

Also someone should tell him CC best known song is Crimewave.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:13 (six years ago) link

You know in the context of Alice's statement that facebook post from Ethan is proof that he is an insecure piece of shit and he did enjoy undermining her.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:16 (six years ago) link

Seems all of CC upcoming concerts have been cancelled. Hope this is a career killer for him.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:18 (six years ago) link

I can't defend Alice either though, two friends worked with her in some venues and she's also very rude and shitty to everyone.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:23 (six years ago) link

Seems like that's two rather different things being compared.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 October 2017 04:26 (six years ago) link

also sounds like she may have some reasons for being emotionally uncomfortable in work situations with strangers

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 26 October 2017 05:01 (six years ago) link

Yeah of course they’re different things you’re right. Ethan apologists on the CC fb page right now are making me sick.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2017 06:12 (six years ago) link

So much of that fourth Crystal Castles album was trolling Alice. He diminished her in statements, literally wrote her out of the band's history in its official press material, and seemed to be mocking her (and really all women) with that cover. It all seemed distasteful at the time, but in light of all the new information it's fucking abhorrent—an entire album of an abuser taunting his victim. Maybe the most morally unconscionable record since Chris Brown's Graffiti.

Evan R, Thursday, 26 October 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link


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