daughter's friend has a real mena suvari in american beauty vibe )which may have been mentioned upthread)
i'm interested in how kevin's ex wife met the leader of the gr. There was a comment when they were in the diner that made me think possibly one had been a patient of the other or sth
― sktsh, Friday, 15 August 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
there needs to be more naked Justin Theroux in this show
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 August 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link
this is the same chick who shagged the guy her best friend had a crush on
whooooooops you are totally right keyes, forgot that
― Brakhage, Friday, 15 August 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link
fucked up
― akm, Monday, 25 August 2014 05:16 (nine years ago) link
Episode 8 took a huge running jump into awesome. Best show on tv in years, I'm calling it.
― and she's crying in a stairwell in Devon (aldo), Monday, 25 August 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link
I'll be curious to see how the second season goes. It seems like they've already used about 75% of the events in the book.
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Monday, 25 August 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link
All-flashback episode was surprisingly great. You could see where lots of it was going from quite early on - Kevin hooking up with the woman from the crash, for example - but it was still really well executed and shocking when the disappearances happened. Recognising little bits of imagery, like Nora taking the second last sheet of kitchen towel (we saw this in the episode when Holy Wayne took her grief) meant the dread built just waiting for the denouement, and from the second "let's build a circuit" was spoken you knew it would climax with the light going out for an unseen reason. Strangest part was Gladys; we're still not clear on what she lost that made her join the GR. her attachment to the dogs makes it look like it's them, but that's surely misdirection.
Was Kevin's vision with the stag supposed to invoke Saint Hubertus, maybe? (The image of Hubertus' vision is shown on the Jagermeister label.) Hubertus is the saint invoked in curing rabies, which is presumably behind Dean's (and by extension Kevin's) motivation for dispatching dogs? Bits of Hubertus' vision also following through in Kevin arguing that the stag should be saved and not killed. We don't have Dean's surname but I'm willing to bet it will turn out to be Lambert for the same reason.
I might have something longer on Lori and her reasons for joining the GR, because I was having that exact conversation after watching ep 8, and probably then also something on the significance of the house.
― and she's crying in a stairwell in Devon (aldo), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 08:46 (nine years ago) link
Not looking forward to the Memorial Day painathon in the finale tbh
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:26 (nine years ago) link
I didn't see the Next Week On but I'm assuming the GR stealing all those family photos had something to do with the clothes and the carcasses in the church last week
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link
"We don't have Dean's surname but I'm willing to bet it will turn out to be Lambert for the same reason."
wait, why?
― akm, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link
oh I see
― akm, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link
Uh...ok.
― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 8 September 2014 03:17 (nine years ago) link
love this show
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 8 September 2014 06:05 (nine years ago) link
it's over now, yes? time to dig in?
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 September 2014 06:43 (nine years ago) link
eww do you actually wait to 'binge watch'? but yeah, the season finale aired.
― some dude, Monday, 8 September 2014 11:28 (nine years ago) link
binge watching the Leftovers would be pretty depressing imo
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Monday, 8 September 2014 12:07 (nine years ago) link
yeah after i watch an episode i definitely needed a palate cleanser of something more upbeat to watch, and a few days' break before i watched another
― some dude, Monday, 8 September 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link
that was a p good finale, I thought.
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 September 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link
As little trust as i have in the creators here, i was waiting till the end of the season so that if there was A CLEVER TWIST i could just skip it
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 September 2014 14:31 (nine years ago) link
Nothing like that
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link
that's what i was waiting to hear... but they left it open for season two with potential to fuck it up later?
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link
Well yeah but really that's every show, isn't it?
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link
This show is far more brazenly not about the plot or the "mystery" than most
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
I hear season 2 is all new cast and new global cataclysm to mope about
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
xp i suppose. really really hold a lot of enmity toward the lost team still, you know?
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
Mr Veg and I were bracing for full-Lindelof handwavey ending shenanigans and were pleasantly surprised to find that there wasn't really any of that.
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link
k, will try.
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 September 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
I don't know, I really dug this show but the finale tipped me off that they didn't really know exactly what they were doing...the whole Wayne storyline was only compelling to the extent that it portended some connection to the vanishing, plus I assumed we'd get some backstory on him before they wrote him off.
Also, I get that the remainder people are devoted to fucking with people, but when it elevates logistically & elaborately like this—that they are smuggling lookalike dummies into people's homes, there needs to be some commensurate insight into their belief system or something beyond just "Duh we're making them remember" again. The acting is so good on this show but the emotional amplitude esp. in the finale seemed independent of the storyline.
― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 8 September 2014 19:51 (nine years ago) link
just because they wrote him off doesn't mean we won't get back story imo -- this show goes hard w/ flashbacks, and it's a good portion of the storytelling
as for the commensurate insight into their belief system for me, part of the 'appeal' of the Guilty Remnants is that they *are* so circumspect. And I feel like I know enough about how they roll through the exposition given piecemeal here and there to take this whole event as them somehow, idk, levelling up their presence in the town. and that they did it knowing that shit would go crazy. like, it seems like part of their motivation is chaos-driven. how do we NOT allow status quo. or the short version of all that is that I didn't mind that there was no big explanation.
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 September 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
they've done such a good job developing the key characters enough for me to engage with them and their journeys, where I don't mind that i'm not getting answers to the big crazy important questions that keep arising
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 September 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link
Probably the best prism through which to view the show: http://www.vox.com/2014/9/7/6116687/leftovers-depression-hbo
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Monday, 8 September 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link
That's true, and the backstory episode was my favorite of the season. I don't really want a big explanation, I would just to feel like the characters themselves know wtf is going on, and after the finale I have this sinking feeling that the GR circumspection (which yes is appealing) is just the writers' proxy cluelessness. For example, maybe I'm thick but I still can't square away why Patti would brutally murder one of her own (lady tied to tree)—that's not a big crazy question, it's just a mechanical plot thing that for me at least was insufficiently explained and comes off more like it was thrown at the wall for effect.
― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 8 September 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link
xpost vg
"I hear season 2 is all new cast and new global cataclysm to mope about"
what? or is that a True Detective joke?
― akm, Monday, 8 September 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link
meh this is just L O S T except with mysterious deer instead of mysterious polar bears
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 8 September 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link
tbf the mysterious deer that wrecks houses is more like the mysterious boar that wrecks the camp than like the polar bears
― Now you're messing with a (President Keyes), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 00:03 (nine years ago) link
fine fine but the flashbacks to LIFE BEFORE are exactly like the flashbacks to LIFE BEFORE
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 00:27 (nine years ago) link
loved the nina at the beginning
― Heez, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 03:10 (nine years ago) link
ok finished this, was a good ending, not sure what in the world they will do with next season. focus on different people?
― akm, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bZVUU3zbXk
― i'd like to remain nora durst (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:40 (eight years ago) link
new season makes Eccleston and Coon regulars while greatly shrinking the supporting cast. I'll be shocked if it's not considerably improved (and I liked s1 a lot)
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link
i'm rewatching the first season right now, which i adore.
indications seem to be that this season will be less relentlessly bleak and more weird - basically going to a new town, one where not a single departure occurred
― i'd like to remain nora durst (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link
will there be less justin theroux hot cop
if so i will be deeply, deeply disappointed
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link
gotta say tho i'm legit weirded out by the amount of smiling in the promo photos, it's SO WEIRD, HOW DOES JILL EVEN UNDERSTAND SMILINGhttp://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2015/07/LEF1tumblr_nsbu2pGjpm1qz8vumo1_540.jpg
― i'd like to remain nora durst (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link
xp he's still the lead!
― i'd like to remain nora durst (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link
he's not in the teaser, i am right to be concerned
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link
fear nothttp://rack.2.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE1LzA4LzAxL2JmL2xlZnRvdmVyczEuNGE1YjcuanBnCnAJdGh1bWIJODUweDg1MD4KZQlqcGc/97ba84f3/383/leftovers-1.jpg
― i'd like to remain nora durst (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
i don't think he's a cop anymore though
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link
I think this show learned from all the mistakes of Lost, which is, just relish in the weird, there doesn't need to be an answer for everything, this is the situation, here is how people are dealing.
― akm, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 00:11 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, though part of the point of season 1 was that everyone was incredibly depressed because there was no answer to what had happened... I think The Leftovers is very aware of the human need for answers. That's what makes the whole thing so depressing.
Also: I love this show, and it really made me think that Lindelof might be the smart one, and that he was just hamstrung on Lost. Then I saw Prometheus...
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 00:17 (eight years ago) link