Scrabble - Classic or Dud?

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http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/04/news/scrabble-dictionary/index.html?sr=fb080514scrabblewords130pStoryLink

"Hashtag," "selfie," "mixtape," "bling" (I've been waiting for that one--had it turned down by various computer opponents many times), etc. That's good. I hope they don't get stupid and start adding internet acronyms, though. Those things need to be eliminated from the world, not encouraged. (I can guess the next post.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

What happens when you play too much Scrabble: you're looking at E-F-L-O-R-W-?. You immediately spot F-L-O-W-E-R-S, but you pause, because you're not 100% sure it's a word. "Flower...something that flows...yes, that should be a word."

clemenza, Friday, 26 September 2014 00:06 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Had to laugh when Meadow Soprano laid "oblique" (season 3, the episode where she's sick and playing with Jackie Jr. in her dorm) in such a no-big-deal way. I've never played "oblique"--not even sure I'd recognize it on the rack if the letters were scrambled enough. She didn't mention the 50-point bonus, either.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 August 2016 01:37 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

Same scene, three years later: Jackie Aprile, Jr., worst Scrabble player ever. (Three words: "ass," "poo," "the"...laid two s's so he could get four points. (Actually was after more than that, but that didn't work out either.)

clemenza, Sunday, 21 June 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

Totally legit: "quashing" on a triple-triple for 216 + 50 = 266 points (729 for the game). I knew I was headed for a high game score, so I wanted to take a screenshot right when the game ended--it was Pogo against the computer--but I forgot they immediately go to a different screen, so I didn't get a chance to.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 June 2020 05:53 (three years ago) link

legit flex

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 25 June 2020 06:17 (three years ago) link

If you were trying to figure out the theoretically highest-scoring play you could make, I have to believe "quashing," situated so that you could hook an 's' onto the beginning for "squashing" (a triple score) and start a triple-triple in a downwards direction (you'd need to hook onto another letter in the middle of that word), would be part of it. You could probably score over 400 points on a single play.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 June 2020 06:26 (three years ago) link

I'm still sore about this 12 years later:

https://live.staticflickr.com/3292/2830369713_c6d93b2d28_c.jpg

SK(A)TINGS, 167pts penultimate move, overcoming my 155pt lead.

(I'm not really; Pam used to kill me on a regular basis.)

Michael Jones, Thursday, 25 June 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link

and a callback to the first post in the thread!

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 25 June 2020 12:45 (three years ago) link

"Skatings"--I'll never understand some of the permissible pluralizations of -ing words in Scrabble. Even "skating" as a noun seems weird to me ("We had a great skating yesterday afternoon"?--wouldn't you just say "We had a great skate"?).

I thought about (s)quashing, and I don't think you could get over 400. If you hooked on "sizzlers," with the first 'z' a blank and the common 's' in the top left corner, you'd get:

squashing = 22 x 3 = 66
sizzlers = 26 x 9 = 234
bonus = 50

total = 350

Which is less than the record play, 392 for "caziques."

http://bestlifeonline.com/highest-scoring-scrabble-move/

Now I'm compelled to figure out "caziques" hooked onto "quashing." That might do it.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

looked @ some screenshots, its almost the 4 yr anniversary of someone playing 'uniquest' on me for 275 pts in wwf (final score of that game was 737-428, i kept it respectable lol)

johnny crunch, Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This has already been a big issue a couple of times in the past (going back to the late '70s, I think).

http://www.cnn.com/2020/07/09/us/scrabble-slurs-ban-trnd/index.html

clemenza, Friday, 10 July 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

This was a good article on the debate, especially on the reasons not to ban them:

https://slate.com/human-interest/2020/06/scrabble-players-debate-slurs.html

neith moon (ledge), Friday, 10 July 2020 09:33 (three years ago) link

Thanks, I'll read that for sure. It was Stefan Fatsis I blame for my addiction in the first place--his Word Freak got me started 15 years ago.

clemenza, Friday, 10 July 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

That was interesting, thanks. Yeah, it's a tough call. Words are often offensive based on how they are used, or certainly how they are received, but they're still ... words, with meanings, offensive or not, that could and do appear in books, and music, and movies, in all sorts of contexts, sometimes to be offensive, sometimes to comment on offensiveness, and so on. Removing these words from Scrabble play seems like a slippery slope, not because of censorship or because it's any great loss, but because there must be countless dumb semi-words in the Scrabble dictionary that probably have equal basis for removal once you apply some sort of (non-point) value to it. At the same time, there are some words whose complete erasure from the English language would probably make the world a better place, so ... I dunno.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 July 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

Hmm, thinking about it a couple of more minutes more, I think a better solution could have been to allow those words but penalize their play. Fewer points, or subtracting a few points, something like that, which would both disincentivize their use and also acknowledge their offensiveness. Just like in professional sports, there are certain things you can do to foul or draw a foul or otherwise do something wrong on purpose strategically, even if it comes at a cost. Playing these words could have been recontextualized as desperation moves that come at a price, which I assume is kind of how they were often played, anyway.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 July 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Kudos to Gabriel in The Americans (Frank Langella), who plays both "phlox" and "stygian" against a very skeptical Philip. (Philip lays "askew," no blanks visible, and is credited with 20 points on a double-word score. The only way that works is if he extended "as" with the "kew," but why would either of these very good players have played "as"?)

clemenza, Saturday, 22 August 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Usual disclaimer: against the Pogo computer, where you're allowed to "steal" a blank (i.e., if the blank's on the board and you have the matching letter on your rack, you can switch). So scoring is much easier (I'm over 400 about 90% of the time).

I think this is my highest single-game score ever, and also the first time I laid two triple-triples ("quainter" and "braiders"--the first was for 203 points). I took a screenshot of the board right before my final play, but then accidentally replaced it with this.

http://phildellio.tripod.com/778.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 03:14 (three years ago) link

sweet!

error prone wolf syndicate (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

I can't seem to post photos anymore on ILX, so you'll have to trust me here...Highest single play ever, I'm pretty sure: "mesquite" across a triple-triple, with the 'q' falling on the double-letter, 311 points (261 for the play + bonus). I laid down "quite" initially--the 'u' was already down--which would have been worth 72, noticed 'mes' still on the rack; "'mesquite,' that sounds familiar..." It was my third play of the game: I started with "cutties," then "tux" for 26, so I had 411 points after three plays. Followed with "wailers," and I started thinking of an 800-point game. Finished with 735.

Pogo, computer, etc.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

I can post photos again, so here was my "mesquite" play from two months ago.

https://phildellio.tripod.com/mesquite.jpg

Also, I took Scrabble as my category for a Zoom trivia group tonight. My questions:

1. What are two most valuable tiles in terms of point value?
2. What are the two most valuable tiles strategically?
3. Which three consonants are the most common tiles (name one)?
4. What is a triple-triple?
5. Within 100 points either way, what is the highest game score ever in tournament play?
6. Within 10 years either way, when was the game invented?
7. What is the 7-letter word that uses the ‘q’ and all five vowels?
8. What is the meaning of either ‘qi’ or ‘za’?
9. Name one of the two famous game companies that rejected Scrabble?
10. In the film Rosemary’s Baby, what does Rosemary learn when she spills out all the Scrabble tiles and starts anagramming?

Obviously, some of those are giveaways. My categories for the last three--movies, post-war presidents, and the Beatles--produced average scores of 2 or 3 out 10, even though I thought most of the questions were basic. So I'm feeling pressure to up those scores. Meanwhile, I routinely score 2 or 3 out of 10 on categories like Italian cooking or inventions. I live in a different universe, evidently.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

365 points on one play ("quizzers")--she out-mesquited me.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/chatham-scrabble-word-score-quizzers-1.5915155

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 01:06 (three years ago) link

The fuck.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 01:10 (three years ago) link

ha that is great, I love that the app enables some official validation

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 02:59 (three years ago) link

Not only did she draw two z's and a q, but also the necessary u, plus some other nice vowels and an s. Her word play was excellent, but her tile draw was off the charts and over the moon.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 04:14 (three years ago) link

I think best of all, it's not some obscure word that no one has ever heard of.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 13:16 (three years ago) link

Classic until somebody starts trying to tell me I can't have Antinazi cos they want it to need a hyphen.
Gorlumme what a complete load of tosh. plenitude of irrational convolution, like.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 13:20 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

After almost 20 years and approximately ___________ games of online Scrabble (too embarrassed to fill that in), first time I ever played "gumshoe."

https://phildellio.tripod.com/gumshoe.jpg

clemenza, Thursday, 4 March 2021 03:43 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Scrabble Go accepts the word "grrrl".

Just thought you should know.

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

This has happened to me before, and it's pretty much the best evidence I can think of that you play way, way too much Scrabble: you're looking at f-l-o-w-e-r-s on your rack, and your first thought is "Is that a word? Someone or something that flows?"

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link

There is a great story in Gwen Raverat's "Period Piece," her memoir of growing up in the Darwin household, where they're playing anagrams and Charles Darwin wanders through, looks at the board and goes "Moth-er? There's no such word as "moth-er."

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 01:44 (one year ago) link

Sounds about right. You just start to see words differently, automatically breaking them down into recognizable building blocks, and four-letter-verb + "ers" are the easiest bingos to spot, hence "flow-ers."

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 02:48 (one year ago) link


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