sorry phone swallowed that post...
anyway reading what ppl, especially Ronan, disliked about astb up thread, idk might it make a difference in reading it to consider the breadth and deftness and adaptability in aping so well all of these Irish literary styles that seems, to me anyway, to be happening here. I'm sure there's more I missing besides, perhaps woof or pf or someone could suggest a full list of the lampooned in the work.
― is this empty sanitism (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link
Has anyone read this? http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/cr%C3%A9-na-cille-%C3%B3-cadhain-s-squabbling-corpses-revived-in-english-1.2154852
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 September 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link
i don't read novels in dialect
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 19 September 2015 23:40 (eight years ago) link
I read 'em with my bowl of Froot Loops and cold milk.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 September 2015 09:30 (eight years ago) link
good day for authors named flann something on ILB
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 20 September 2015 09:46 (eight years ago) link
have never heard of that, but looks interesting... shades of dostoyevsky's bobok
― no lime tangier, Sunday, 20 September 2015 11:57 (eight years ago) link
bought this recently
http://www.dalkeyarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/15647100441380L.jpg
― the siteban for the hilarious 'lbzc' dom ips (wins), Sunday, 20 September 2015 12:12 (eight years ago) link
That is definitely in the right spirit
― The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 September 2015 12:20 (eight years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51GzumJh2kL.jpg
― mick signals, Sunday, 20 September 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link
i'm 60 pages into the third policeman and somewhat drunk. flann o'brien is the holy grail
― imago, Monday, 23 October 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link
An excellent primer for astb but I maintain my position above, you need to read a bit of Sean O'Casey et al first
― Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 23 October 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link
Kind of an ideal state of being imago has going there, tbh
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 23 October 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link
all noted
― imago, Monday, 23 October 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link
https://i2.wp.com/www.onegreenplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/coconut-flan1.jpg?fit=1200%2C750
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/d/d1/1984burton.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131102231148
― alimosina, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
this shit is acatalectica-c-a-t-a-l-e-c-t-i-c
― imago, Thursday, 26 October 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link
It's catholic fyi
― Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 26 October 2017 14:54 (six years ago) link
It wasn't Catholic enough. He became afraid of it.
― alimosina, Monday, 30 October 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link
OK I got to the guessing-names bit that Father Ted obviously ripped off and was dissolved in laughter on the tube. I wonder how much of Father Ted is just reconsidered O'Brien...
― imago, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
Great holy suffering indiarubber bowls of brown stirabout!
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 3 November 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
Music tie-in here.
― alimosina, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
I think it's more likely the novel steals from Ted tbh
― Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Friday, 3 November 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link
well was a rug ever pulled
― imago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
Have read ten pages of ASTB and it is obviously some kind of personal grail
the list of birds alone has me forever
― imago, Sunday, 13 May 2018 09:16 (five years ago) link
well, yes
― gneb farts (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 May 2018 09:46 (five years ago) link
the maritime wren!
― imago, Sunday, 13 May 2018 09:50 (five years ago) link
read, my child, and learn of the marvels it contains
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 13 May 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
FOB seems to specialise in these extended bravura sequences where all literature else is cast into a pyre. in 3P it was the underground chamber and i'll be beggared if the cress-green cress of the full seventh of that book's length that is the confusion of the tellings of finn, shanahan and lamont doesn't figure somewhere in the reckoning of which is ASTB's. unless somehow it has greater in store
― imago, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link
I don't exactly understand that comment. Can you explain further?
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 09:52 (five years ago) link
I recommend THE COLLECTED LETTERS OF FLANN O'BRIEN, though not as a way of preserving any mystique.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 09:53 (five years ago) link
Myles na gCopaleen’s collected columns are the best, but I read The Third Policeman a while back and it was honestly one of the strangest things I’ve ever read. I need to read it again.
― gyac, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:16 (five years ago) link
By that I meant that pages 58 through 91 of ASTB make for a truly astonishing passage. I was speculating as to whether the book will have greater in store for me during the remaining course of its pages, of which I have now read 104.
― imago, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:24 (five years ago) link
Are you deliberately taking years to read this novel?
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:28 (five years ago) link
Savouring every syllable.
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:28 (five years ago) link
third policeman might be the most terrifying book i've ever read
― devvvine, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:32 (five years ago) link
obvs a masterpiece, as is astb
― devvvine, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:33 (five years ago) link
Page 104 has heralded the beginning of a section concerning a Pooka and a Good Fairy that is threatening to drown all that precedes or follows it in mirthful frenzies
― imago, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:36 (five years ago) link
love the running articles towards the start of 'the best of myles' collection, which begin with him proposing a business where he roughs up rich peoples books, so that people think they've been read, and gets more absurd each week until dublin society is being terrroized by social blackmailers
― devvvine, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 10:42 (five years ago) link
Ordered this just now cuz of this thread (Penguin Classics ed.)
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 11:01 (five years ago) link
The Myles stuff is incredible! I started re-reading his stuff last week, he was my favourite author for a period
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 14:30 (five years ago) link
If you chance to read The Dalkey Archive you will see large parts of 3rd Policeman, slightly mutated and used slightly differently.
I love the novels but never quite got into the Myles material, especially the bits not written in English.
One time I was reading At Swim-Two-Birds on the subway and an old man next to me asked me what I was reading. I mutely showed him, and he said "ah, that's a foine book. I also recommend the Dalkey Archive."
I looked over at what he was reading. It was Hamlet.
Only later did I realize that I should have said "That's a good one too. I also recommend Romeo and Juliet." What's Irish for l'esprit de l'escalier?
― moist owlette (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 14:49 (five years ago) link
'a pint of plain is your only man' iirc
― imago, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 14:53 (five years ago) link
Ha, exactly
― Theory of Every Zing (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 15:01 (five years ago) link
wow lol
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link
Can’t believe I didn’t mention An Béal Bocht - so so good and always accurate, esp in these Brexity times when we are really all Jams O’Donnell.
Obvs his greatest achievement was writing these masterpieces while employed in the civil service though.
― gyac, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link
And mostly pissed iirc
― The Gapes of Wrath (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 17:10 (five years ago) link
The Brother is one of the greatest comic creations of all time.
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link
I want to compile every proverb in this book and maybe poll them. A leg that is in halves is a slow pilgrim
― imago, Thursday, 18 April 2019 14:54 (five years ago) link
Orlick's bathroom break is probably the funniest two pages in print
― imago, Thursday, 18 April 2019 15:16 (five years ago) link
The brother was givin out about the seals. ‘Tumblers’ he called them. The brother says all them lads should be destroyed.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 18 April 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link
The Plain People of Ireland: Another day gone and no jokes. Myself: Yes, curse you.
― And according to some websites, there were “sexcapades.” (James Morrison), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 00:17 (five years ago) link