Game Theory / The Loud Family

Do you mean "Where they Go Back to School but Still Get Depressed?" It's mostly Scott, a guitar and some ominous background noise. Not early, though; it's from Loud Family's Interbabe Concern.

Wonder what led them to present the Alternate Learning material this way—it really could have stood on its own.... Though after so many years of its seeming impossible to have any reissues at all, maybe it's churlish to quibble?

1. SOMETHING TO SHOW
2. TIN SCARECROW
3. WHITE BLUES
4. DATE WITH AN ANGEL
5. MARY MAGDALENE
6. THE YOUNG DRUG
7. BAD YEAR AT UCLA
8. ALL I WANT IS EVERYTHING
9. STUPID HEART
10. SLEEPING THROUGH HEAVEN
11. IT GIVES ME CHILLS
12. THE GIRLS ARE READY TO GO

Bonus Tracks:
13. ANOTHER WASTED AFTERNOON – Alternate Learning
14. WHAT’S THE MATTER – Alternate Learning
15. SCOTT MILLER TESTING LABORATORIES: RECORD TEST #1 – Scott Miller and Jozef Becker
16. IN THE STILL OF THE NIGHT – Scott Miller
17. BAD YEAR AT UCLA (Reprise)
18. SHE’S A WOMAN OF THE WORLD – Scott Miller
19. SCOTT MILLER TESTING LABORATORIES: RECORD TEST #2 – Scott Miller and Jozef Becker
20. BEACH STATE ROCKING – Alternate Learning
21. ALIENS IN OUR MIDST
22. UNTITLED PIANO PIECE – Scott Miller
23. THE NEW YOU – Alternate Learning
24. SCOTT MILLER TESTING LABORATORIES: RECORD TEST #3 – Scott Miller and Jozef Becker
25. BAD YEAR AT UCLA (Live)
26. SCOTT MILLER TESTING LABORATORIES: RECORD TEST #4 – Scott Miller and Jozef Becker
27. MARY MAGDALENE (Live)

So furious with myself that when I did a big CD cull a couple of years ago I got rid of ALL the Game Theory albums.

http://www.avclub.com/article/game-theorys-80s-college-rock-masterpiece-finally--233837

There's a Kickstarter going to help complete/fund the new Game Theory record that Scott was working on at the time of his death. I'll be giving what I can.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bjwest/supercalifragile-by-scott-millers-game-theory

Just got this notice:

Thanks to an extremely generous backer, we are now at 110% funding! There's no longer any question of this album being made. We still have more than a month before the clock runs out though, so there's still plenty of time for people to get in on pre-roders! Keep spreading the word!

To thank everyone for their amazing support, here's a sneak peak of the album, a video shot during the recording session at Abbey Road. Please enjoy "I Still Dream of Getting Back to Paris."
https://vimeo.com/166671786

Do keep in mind that this is a preliminary mix, the version on the album will be different after Mitch Easter works his magic on it!

not really a fan of anton barbeau but otherwise that's pretty great

I was at Austin Psych Fest 2013 and Rain Parade was the last band playing that night. Afterward I got talking with their drummer, super nice guy named Gil. "Hey, what other bands have you played in?" "Game Theory"

*uncomfortable sound effects*

Scott Miller had just taken his own life just the week before and Gil said that playing with RP was just barely keeping his mind off things. We ended up talking for a bit - death, getting older, surviving, etc. Late night bar existentialism. Never said a thing about cancer. RIP

Wait, Gil Ray died? :O

Posted on http://www.loudfamily.com

Duet with Aimee Mann from upcoming posthumous album:

http://read.tidal.com/article/listen-to-game-theorys-first-song-in-20-years-featuring-aimee-man

And yeah, I choked up a bit hearing Scott's voice for the first time on a new track since his passing.

anyone heard the record? it's pretty wonderful so far

https://gametheory1.bandcamp.com/releases

heart breaking. also yes, Gil died a few months ago.

Complete show! (thirty years ago yesterday)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gjRk8ZRmXQ

Was it a double bill with Blake Babies?

Seems like he posted a bunch of videos with that same date on them.

Noticing some similarity in the singing to Alex Chilton right now

D'oh!
/JackieHarvey

listening to Lolita Nation I'm struck with the thought that these guys were far too smart for their own good

they also sound at least 5 years ahead of their time

i approve

Check out the first Loud Family album, Plants and Birds and Rocks and Things. It's even better.

will do at some point, need to get my head around this first!

'chardonnay' is a joy. there's an 8-minute version that didn't make the album? pity

The longer “Chardonnay” is on the LN reissue that came out a few years back.

I nom’d a couple of LN tracks (along with one from the first Loud Family album) in the sub-2 min songs poll, so if you’re inclined to vote...

yeah your nominations are how i found out about them!

i'll def vote for at least one of them

Yay!

Plants and Birds is my favorite of all of these albums. Just top notch.

Interbabe Concern is my favorite, you might get some mileage out of that too, imago

Seconding the Interbabe Concern recommendation, that’s my favorite too

yeah that one is also very good

this guy is some sort of holy grail huh

Plants And Birds is also amazing!

Why did none of you TELL me about Scott Miller?? Wow

i dunno this thread has been here for a long time. but he was certainly not as lauded as he should have been while alive.

I No Longer Fear The Headless is the most glorious thing in the world

time for some game theory

cover of "roadrunner" on the lolita nation reissue is a lot of fun, there's definitely a lot of what made the modern lovers a great band in game theory

lol shush

Game Theory took a while to grow on me but I like them a lot - I've never quite got into Loud Family but I think that might be changing, Plants and Birds... finally clicked with me after another listen last night.

I really enjoyed reading Miller's Music: What Happened? even though I disagreed with a lot of his positions on things.

Days for Days is classic. Does anyone know why it's not streaming? I thought Alias was the hold up, but the rest of the catalog is on Spotify.

I've got to find that one

Interbabe Concern is...astonishing, at this point rapidly climbing various all-time lists of mine. just stuck in my head constantly now

I bought DFD on iTunes haha

In about a week, LF has become one of my favourite bands. It's ALL amazing

Yeah, I picked up the LF discography one at a time, but it was all in the span of a month or two, mostly via Amazon. This was around 2001, and when DFD was next on my list to buy, I just happened to find it used for like $2 at a Wherehouse Music in a mall in suburban Florida, which I still have a hard time believing.

I got all the LF stuff before I even checked out Game Theory. I love it all now, but still generally prefer the LF albums. And Interbabe is one of my favorite albums by anyone.

Lolita Nation was the first I heard (all of eight or nine days ago haha) and was obviously great, but LF is a step up and away into something much more rarefied (and weirdly uncommercial considering how every track bangs)

Finding out about Scott Miller has been like stumbling across a not so ancient tablet that contains instructions for as many awesome hooks as the rest of the pop/rock canon previously contained

Interbabe Concern is definitely the best one imo too, and therefore one of the best albums I've...ever heard? but the other albums are amazing, I've not been able to get Attractive Nuisance or Days For Days out of my head today. And it's all so clever and surprising - he'll do something like have Soul DC have an unassuming and maybe slightly overlong intro, only to slam into an unbelievable pop anthem without breaking stride. It's heavenly

I've never ventured beyond 'Lolita Nation' - which is brilliant - but you're making a pretty strong case that I should dive into Loud Family.

proceed, and keep us posted :)

Will do!

interbabe was my first and remains my favourite (inspired to check it out back in oh 1997 by Glenn Mcdonald’s review on TWAS), subject to never having been able to find plants and birds.

I think one of the things i love about scott’s work is that it doesn’t sound nearly as “smart” as you’d expect from reading about it.

By way of example, those long twisting rhyming couplets on “Screwed Over By Stylish Introverts” don’t ever sound laboured, it’s more like he just happens to think in metered rhyme.

Attractive Nuisance is almost as great as Interbabe. The run of tracks from...3 to 10? is peerless, amazing. Plus Blackness, Blackness sounds like he heard Smashing Pumpkins and decided he'd show these bozos how to do their own music, in the nicest possible way

Days For Days has some legit jams. Great production too.

Lolita Nation seems to be the critical favourite but Dead Center is my favourite Game Theory album