TS: Depeche Mode vs. New Order vs. Pet Shop Boys

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new order had good songs into '93 at least ("regret"), DM i pretty much cut off at violator (so '90), PSBs have had some intermittently good singles for the past decade-plus but "go west" is their last GREAT single and that was '93 also

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 04:56 (sixteen years ago) link

you guys are missing out on some great DM songz

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 04:57 (sixteen years ago) link

actually i'm probably talking out my ass about the PSBs there but i stand by the others

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 04:57 (sixteen years ago) link

you guys are missing out on some great DM songz

That's for goddamn sure.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 04:57 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't like songs of faith and devotion very much, and the post-violator singles haven't done much for me either. what would you recommend max?

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 04:58 (sixteen years ago) link

ok I lied - I've heard Violator and Playing the Angel (and NO's Republic & a few PSB tunes) but in general my perceptions of these bands are pre-1990

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 04:58 (sixteen years ago) link

It's New Order. End thread. Move along, nothing to see here.

Edward Bax, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 04:58 (sixteen years ago) link

"Walking In My Shoes" turned me off of ever listening to Songs of Faith

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:00 (sixteen years ago) link

ahhh curt1s maybe you were listening to a different song?? "WIMS" is one of my favorites!

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:01 (sixteen years ago) link

You're missing out, Curtis...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:01 (sixteen years ago) link

i do enjoy several of the singles from 'ultra'

omar little, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:01 (sixteen years ago) link

guys keep in mind I like the "bad" Depeche Mode songs like "It's Called A Heart"

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:02 (sixteen years ago) link

so basically I have horrible taste

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:02 (sixteen years ago) link

harlot, if you dont like the singles im not exactly sure what to recommend you--i <3 "i feel you," "walking in my shoes," "dream on," "precious".... i think songs of faith and devotion is great, not as good as violator... playing the angel is probably the next best after that. exciter and ultra both have their moments but rank lower.

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:04 (sixteen years ago) link

new order easy, and though tennant's voice may be technically better than sumner's (not too hard there) it's also way more annoying

gershy, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:05 (sixteen years ago) link

my favorite DM song is probably "shake the disease" ("enjoy the silence" close second)

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:05 (sixteen years ago) link

it might be worth pointing out that i got into DM thru the singles compilation so im not as attached to whole albums or specific periods of their work

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:05 (sixteen years ago) link

"Lilian" is awesome.

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:05 (sixteen years ago) link

i like the early songs with really, um, questionable lyrics also (cf. "everything counts")

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link

i like "creepy boyfriend" DM lyrics, cf. "enjoy the silence and "it's no good":

don't say you want me
don't say you need me
its understood
don't say you're happy
out there without me
i know you can't be
cause it's no good

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:10 (sixteen years ago) link

"creepy boyfriend" DM lyrics

LOL

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:12 (sixteen years ago) link

the michael mayer balearic mix of "precious" is great too. as far as im concerned.

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Dominations the name of the game
In bed or in life
Theyre both just the same
Except in one youre fulfilled
At the end of the day

Lets play master and servant
Lets play master and servant

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:15 (sixteen years ago) link

!!!
xpost

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:16 (sixteen years ago) link

the jlc mix of "pain that i'm used to" is good too

ewan pearson mix of "enjoy the silence" kind of disappointing

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:16 (sixteen years ago) link

ALSO WORTH POINTING OUT:

Chester Bennington, vocalist of Linkin Park, was inspired by the band. [32] [33] Another Linkin Park member Mike Shinoda, "Depeche Mode is one of the most influential groups of our time. Their music is an inspiration to me..." [34]

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:17 (sixteen years ago) link

i wont lie though: i love the shit out of depeche and new order, but new order punches me in the gut in a way the other two bands just dont.

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:18 (sixteen years ago) link

lol should read " i love the shit out of depech and pet shop boys"

max, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:18 (sixteen years ago) link

re: gutpunching, i can name at least three PSB songs that have caused an inadvertent uh-no-i've-just-got-something-in-my-eye-thanks-i'm-fine-really reaction, and one of them was just the other day on the subway

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:25 (sixteen years ago) link

And they were all sung by Chris Lowe.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:27 (sixteen years ago) link

thank god i was wearing those sunglasses i never take off, even indoors

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:30 (sixteen years ago) link

sometimes "Rent" is the best song in the universe.

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:32 (sixteen years ago) link

All very good bands, but really, New Order, no question, right? Right.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 05:42 (sixteen years ago) link

"Walking In My Shoes" turned me off of ever listening to Songs of Faith

That one is the only great song from that album.

All of their later albums have been great though. SOFAD was a one-off step in the wrong direction, a direction that is otherwise only found on Dave Gahan's first solo album.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 08:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, it took me a while after SOFAD to get bak into DM. The last album has however completely reconciled me with them and is up there with 'Violator' in my book. Same with 'Waiting for the Sirens Call' actually.
But, anyway, NO wins this quite comfortably in my book.

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 09:11 (sixteen years ago) link

This is so close, but I think it's the PSBs.

Sod it, I'm leaving this one till the final bump as well.

aldo, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 11:43 (sixteen years ago) link

i like the early songs with really, um, questionable lyrics also (cf. "everything counts")

my teenage political philosophy was based pretty much entirely on "everything counts".

come to think of it, not much has changed ...

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link

"Rent" is the single best song from all three of these bands, I think.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

1. New Order
2. PSB
3. Depeche Mode

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link

new order in a mfing heartbeat.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

xp Nearly right, Matt :)

1. New Order
2. PSB
3. Every other band ever
4. Depeche Mode*

*except for the Vince Clarke era singles which are great

Dr.C, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 13:52 (sixteen years ago) link

!

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link

1. New Order
2. Depeche Mode
1003. Pet Shop Boys

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Hello, I New Order.

Mark G, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

1. New Order
2. Pet Shop Boys
3. Depeche Mode

but 1 is way ahead for me from the others (though I ordered Very last week so we'll see soon)

Euler, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

1. Depeche Mode
NO and PSB tied somewhere around the 20s or 30s.

ledge, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link

i think NO are far ahead of PSBs. depeche are a laughable goth band.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 14:09 (sixteen years ago) link

depeche are a laughable goth band.

RONG

stephen, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 14:43 (sixteen years ago) link

PSB for me—even though NO are the greater band, of course. They’re also, nonetheless, somewhat lacking when it comes to songwriting—at least when compared to Neil's awesome feats in that department. As for DM: I really should try paying attention to them someday. Maybe.

JN$OT, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Norwegian electronic pop band Lorraine are back.

New Order, Depeche Mode and Pet Shop Boys influences all present !

The Norwegian electro pop trio is gearing up for the release of a new single, titled "Saved," in December that will be followed by another single in February, which will lead up to a full-length album around Easter that will consist of all new tracks plus some rarities.

Have a listen to an exclusive audio stream of "Saved" below.

http://www.arjanwrites.com/arjanwrites/2007/10/listen-to-new-l.html

http://www.myspace.com/lorrainemusic

djmartian, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link


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