Is it remotely possible that Sha Na Na might have been good?

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Best thing in the Woodstock movie by a mile, IIRC.
-- Soukesian (byakhee2000nopsa...), March 22nd, 2005.


that wd be richie havens
-- mark s (mar...), March 22nd, 2005.

santana and sly were the best things in woodstock. imho.
-- Eisbär (llamasfu...), March 22nd, 2005.

Nonsense, all of you! It was HENDRIX! But I'd say the four of us together may have nailed the top five, or close to it. And yeah, that includes the hyperkinetic Sha Na Na - possibly the most energetic act of the day. (Not to mention the one most likely to have induced brown-acid freakouts.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Were the Relections and Joe Jones even worse?
-- xhuxk (xedd...),

Dunno about the Reflections, but as for Joe Jones, I had occasion to mention him and his song "You Talk Too Much" on this thread:

Worst Rhyming Lyrics Ever...

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:02 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm kinda shocked you guys liked festival express! i mean i thought was ok but i figured that was coloured by the canadian-ness of it, which i was a little embarassed of (ACTUAL rock stars hung out here in the '60s!!)

but it's funny that you all mention the sha na na performance, which i thought of when i saw this thread. it was kind of disturbing!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:06 (nineteen years ago) link

A related thread:

Great 20th Century Embarassments: The Mid-90's Swing Revival (A confessional thread)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 23 March 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

i had a telemarketing job in the mid 90's that was some sorta union firefighter ticket scam in tejas, and it was centered around a benefit concert featuring Bowszer from Sha Na Na. maybe that's the guy Pleasant Plains is talking about?

and Festival Express is incredible! the footage of the Band before they were junkie-zombies (or Manuel at least) is so vibrant and life-affirming. and the Janis Joplin cosmic bluez suffering and slimy id-slither as stand-up routine brought tears...

Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link

i like when the give her a box of southern comfort. yah way to enable!

charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Hot Sox was apparently their sixth of seven albums for Kama Sutra!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 26 March 2005 01:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Bowzer was the ultra-bass guy who looked liked a creepier goofier Henry Winkler.

My father toured with them as a sound guy when I was a wee lad (yup. I'm old) and took me along. Bowzer was a particularly nice guy, and never complained when my tagging along with him ruined his after-show attempts at scary Sha Na Na groupie pussy.

So, yeah, I'll say they were pretty cool.

John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 26 March 2005 01:30 (nineteen years ago) link

((( shutter )))

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Saturday, 26 March 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.aceproductions.com/Bowser.jpg
I was into Bowser age 6, me.

Silky Sensor (sexyDancer), Saturday, 26 March 2005 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

"Sha na na na na na na knees" -- Axl Rose.

Anyway, now I'm wondering to what extent Bowzer might have been an inspiration for Joey Ramone.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bfZfH33baMs

xhuxk, Sunday, 6 April 2008 01:50 (sixteen years ago) link

That's the Billy Crystal-looking guy singing lead.

Although maybe he doesn't really like all that much like him after all.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 6 April 2008 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Seeing that clip takes me back to my childhood in a very weird way. I find it disturbing, actually.

Bimble, Sunday, 6 April 2008 04:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I turned it off in the middle. Does Kenneth Mars do some strange stuff in there at the end?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 6 April 2008 04:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Whenever I see Sha Na Na, all I can think about is how my grandma loved it when they sang "Goodnight Sweetheart" at the end of each and every episode. DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN DUN, DUN DUN.

Terrible Cold, Sunday, 6 April 2008 04:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone who thinks Sha Sha Na was any good never heard any originals from Sun.

Jazzbo, Sunday, 6 April 2008 04:53 (sixteen years ago) link

what does sha na na have to do with sun? their shtick was very doo-wop/nyc-based. ok, they did "hound dog" and whatever, but it's a pretty different thing from sun.

the laugh track on this video is interesting, like that music could only be performed as camp at that point. in some ways they remind me of hee haw, except that hee haw had the real mccoys on instead of lookalike soundalikes. but i think the cultural effect was the same, a sort of gentle tweaking that reaffirmed the music and gave people permission to like it without feeling utterly square, because the audience was in on the joke.

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 6 April 2008 05:42 (sixteen years ago) link

It was the originals of Sunn 0))) that really recontextualized Sha Na Na for me. Hard to take Bowzer seriously after a sit-down with Flight of the Behemoth.

briania, Sunday, 6 April 2008 05:54 (sixteen years ago) link

but i think the cultural effect was the same, a sort of gentle tweaking that reaffirmed the music and gave people permission to like it without feeling utterly square, because the audience was in on the joke.

OTM

Bimble, Sunday, 6 April 2008 06:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Let me play HOOS for a second and say:
OTMothra

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 6 April 2008 06:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyway, now I'm wondering to what extent Bowzer ... Joey Ramone

http://www.dickdestiny.com/kings4.jpg

C'mon, xhuxk. Sleeveless black T's on dudes with spaghetti arms weren't anyone's intellectual property. (Actually, the photo CREEM ran of DD&HK when you did the story had three of four -- but not me -- wearing sleeveless at the shoulder, a common white trash thing. Anyway, that's the way I remember it.)

Gorge, Sunday, 6 April 2008 09:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Or motorcycle jackets for that matter.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 6 April 2008 09:17 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.dickdestiny.com/band.jpg

Did Bowzer influence the sartorial taste of the guy on the right? No -- the carnies at the Allentown fairgrounds plus me showing them the backpages of old Rock Scene mags did.

Gorge, Sunday, 6 April 2008 09:33 (sixteen years ago) link

in some ways they remind me of hee haw

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, and almost started a TS: Sha Na Na vs Hee Haw thread

dell, Sunday, 6 April 2008 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Hee Haw in a landslide.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 6 April 2008 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NyK3df0xaw

it seems from watching this that tv funnyman david schneider has a past i wasn't aware of.

Frogman Henry, Sunday, 6 April 2008 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Pffft You Were Gone is a timeless classic.

Gorge, Sunday, 6 April 2008 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Hee Haw in a landslide.

u crazy

dell, Sunday, 6 April 2008 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

again

gabbneb, Sunday, 6 April 2008 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

for years my dad thought kramer (from seinfeld) was a guy in sha-na-na. i believed him for awhile too!

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 6 April 2008 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

gabb beat me to the punch re sha na na's academic pedigree. i was a bit surprised when i found out that they're a bunch of ivy leaguers.

Eisbaer, Sunday, 6 April 2008 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

lol @ tracer's dad.

chaki, Sunday, 6 April 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

it's still pretty amusing to think of michael richards doing his "battle boy" schtick on sha na na's prime-time TV show.

Eisbaer, Sunday, 6 April 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I did see some 20/20 special about a guy who faked being in Sha Na Na to bilk people out of their money at mall appearances. Turns out the imposter had escaped from jail and was lying low underneath this guise for years.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///),
Holy shit, the list of members is enormous. Lots of room for Michael Richards and the baby-killing guy on there with nobody noticing. Room for you, too, fellas - go to it.

Bought a Sha Na Na album (Sha Na Now!) for a buck at a garage sale today. The cover was worth it, the music.... not so much. But love this thread.

Bashful Johnny C. (staggerlee), Saturday, 15 May 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Look at this shit (1975):
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s89975.jpg
Is it even remotely possible that Sha Na Na weren't a direct inspiration for The Village People?

Bashful Johnny C. (staggerlee), Saturday, 15 May 2010 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link

one of the best thread titles ever

Mark, Saturday, 15 May 2010 05:34 (thirteen years ago) link

A while ago, fiddling around at Colindale newspaper library, I read the Guardian's round-up of 1970 in pop. Guy who wrote it - Geoffrey Cannon, maybe? Can't recall - rounded up the Velvets, Joni, Neil Young, and then concluded that the hands-down best album of the year was by Sha Na Na. Wonder if he stands by that.

ithappens, Saturday, 15 May 2010 10:53 (thirteen years ago) link

A larger image for better WTFs:
http://webspace.webring.com/people/bd/divamagenta/snnow.jpg

Guy far left looks like he's just been kicked in the nuts. There's an underage Henry The Eighth upper right. And if you look carefully behind the bronzed fella lower right, there's a phantom pair of legs behind him, that belong to no torso.

Bashful Johnny C. (staggerlee), Saturday, 15 May 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

http://www.tampabay.com/music/woodstock-was-a-myth-sha-na-nas-henry-gross-who-played-before-hendrix-wants-to-bust-it-20190807/

“I submit to you that Sha Na Na should have been one of the first people, if there were a legitimate Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, to go into it,” he said. “If you want entertainment, the original Sha Na Na cannot be beat.”

Sorry Henry, sorry Chuck--that is some kind of ludicrous. (Just posting this is taking the bait, I know--he's probably half-kidding.) I do like the idea that Sha Na Na was a people.

clemenza, Thursday, 8 August 2019 23:54 (four years ago) link

Maybe he just never got over the dog dying.

Another Fule Clickin’ In Your POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 August 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link

Great article

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 August 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link

I am a fan of their 1972 single "Bounce in Your Buggy," which sounds more like the Archies than Danny and the Juniors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7nQtuWuY9Y

timellison, Friday, 9 August 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link


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