[CONSUMER ADVICE] Laptop Buying

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I haven't really decided no - I will look for a Dell if they're sturdier.

I'm getting my new work to get me one too but I don't really want to have thousands of MP3s on a new job's PC.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Saturday, 3 April 2004 08:59 (twenty years ago) link

[CONSUMER ADVICE] Lapdance Buying

Skottie, Saturday, 3 April 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

ah, the rapier wit.

mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 3 April 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago) link

tom if you're only buying a laptop for personal storage issues you should strongly consider plunking the money down on an external hard drive instead. they're dead cheap these days. i just bought a 120gig for $200cdn, which is roughly equivalent to one of the more expensive sandwiches at pret once you do the conversion.

mark p (Mark P), Saturday, 3 April 2004 16:53 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
I'm eyeing a 15" Powerbook but am concerned that it won't make nice with my old school 20 gig "PC" iPod. I know the newer, uglier iPods swing both ways, but is there any cross-compatability with the older version? I had a Mac Quadra 800 back in the day and think I'm ready to switch back...

Arms Enthusiast, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

best way to sort your iPod out, mount it as a disk, copy across the tracks, remake the iPod as a mac iPod using the iPod software updater. Copy thetracks back across using iTunes.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Marvelous! Thanks, Ed!

Since you seem to be quite iAware, I've been meaning to find out: is it normal to have a 6-7 second delay every between every 5th or 6th track when on 'shuffle'? It sort of growls and sounds like it's doing what it should, and the pause is only vaguely irritating, but I've never heard anybody else mention it. Again, I'm using the old 20G beast...

Arms Enthusiast, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
okay, guys, GOTTA HELP ME PLEASE

I need a new laptop.

my current one is OK but for, mostly, its build (probs w/ screen/power supply/CD/DVD). it has 512MB RAM, some shitty shared graphics, 30GB HDD, 1.2GHz processor. I've had it for 2 years and had it around europe and america for almost a quarter of that time--it hasn't lasted too badly.

I will be using the new one for drawing and modelling, mainly, so memory and extra, dedicated graphics memory is most key. the bigger the screen, the better. the better the processor, the better. of course. CD/DVD. not too fussed about HDD, since I have an external 200GB drive, so 30GB or so would prob be fine. the more robust, the better, too.

tell me things I don't know. PLEASE GUYS

COME ON PLEASE

oh, would like to pay less than £1200/$2200 but if there was something great, for a little more, who knows?

COME ON PLEASE PLEASE

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 10:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Nice 14" iBook, or if you are not into that Take a good look at the HP range. If you wnat snazzy, espensive and light weight then get a sony.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:22 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, I forgot to say: for all the software I use, it needs to be PC.

I have a 15" screen, just now, and that is OK. ideally, I would have a 12" or 14" and another 19"+ screen to plug it into, on my desk!!!!!!!!

it's the graphics memory that makes it difficulter. HP look good and toshiba look good, too. sony is expensive, yes.

: S

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I have been very impressed by the 17" HP laptop thqat one of our clients uses for 3d animation and photoshop work. It wasn't that expensive and had 128Mb graphics if I recall correctly.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link

this is one I was looking at, before. sounds like it is the same one you've seen. I was sure I'd seen it for just under £1200 but now it looks like it was just under £1200 excl. VAT.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

That is infact the very one, processor has been upgraded otherwise the same. From what I've seen of it it's a great computer.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:37 (nineteen years ago) link

NB. Micro anvika far from the cheapest computer shop out there.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link

am I getting desperate?

yes, I only just looked at the micro anvika, now--never heard of it, before, but it seems to be priced the same, everywhere else. dabs.com, simplycomputers/whatever.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link

worth bidding on

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah...

thanks, for the advice!!!

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 11:53 (nineteen years ago) link

what software exactly do you use for pc that doesn't exist on mac?

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Toshiba M30 looks great...wireless networking, widescreen display, either 60 or 80 gb drive, and either a combo drive or a dvd burner. I'm probably going to be getting one within the next few weeks.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I use autoCADs and formZ. you can probably get them for mac but I have them for PC. I don't enjoy macs much.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 12:32 (nineteen years ago) link

there is no autocad for the mac, there are plenty of better CAD packages for the Mac but if you use autocad there's probably a very good reason for doing so. AutoDesk periodically say they are going to release autoCad for the Mac and have once. The problem is though it so un-Mac like (It still behaves like a DOS programme in many respects) that no Mac user will touch it and there is very little reason for PC users to convert to running Macs other than style and reliability.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Another small factor to consider is wireless connectivity if you care about that sort of thing. I leech off of the school across the street from my apartment, and my PC's connection goes on and off at random times while the Mac's connection is solid. Could be just a quirk in the OS or a driver issue though.

Ghostface Threadkillah (calstars), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link

RIch, I see the current high bidder on that is taste-her-juice.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 16 June 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

this is still going. an hour and twenty or so, left. the seller only has 132 transactions, has no photos of the actual item on sale and hasn't replied to two messages I sent him-----I am a little bit wary!!

BUT--it is still over £400 under the retail price and he says it has 1024MB RAM instead of 512MB. I am scared!!! what do I do?

I have even looked at getting a train to WREXHAM, tomorrow or so, and BACK! to pick it up, if I win it. it would cost £70 and ten hours of travelling but I would be a bit safer, that way.

anyone got any ebay horror stories, to put me off? or are you good at spotting potential SCAMS?

RJG (RJG), Friday, 18 June 2004 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link

so, I didn't get it. I was outbid, over the limit I had set myself. I am kind of relieved, actually.

but, haha.

I went to john lewis, today, and looked at the HP 17" laptop, that I wanted. it seemed a little less robust, than I had hoped for. I looked around and found this. it is the same spec, as the HP, but with double the RAM and the memory card reader is hotswappable, with a second battery and stuff. also, the lid is steel. robuster. it is also slightly smaller and lighter. it is priced at slightly higher, than the HP. I have found some, on ebay. it seems that gateway have kinda stopped trading, in the UK. does anyone know any more?

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 19 June 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

What about getting an IBM? I have a Thinkpad and it's great (for me, 'cause I lug it around school constantly and I've dropped it and stuff - it's sturdy, that's for sure). My biggest piece of advice is use your CREDIT card to buy - because if you get ripped off, your credit card company should have fraud protection and can get your $$ back. Check to be sure you have the fraud protection thing first, obv. As for eBay, double check the fraud protection there before you buy - like if you use PayPal and ship to a confirmed address, you should be covered if something goes wrong. I'd say it's best to know about fraud coverage and insurance before you bid on such a pricey item.

Oh, and beware of random refurb outlets, I bought a laptop from Refurb Depot and they sent me a piece of shit that wasn't working properly and then gave me massive attitude and headaches when I tried to return it - had to send my credit card people after them, who luckily saved me from getting ripped off to the tune of $1100.

I've bought parts and things from Buy.com and they've been great so far. What about checking customer reviews on Amazon to see what others say? Also epinions, even searching on Slashdot. Best to do your research.

daria g (daria g), Saturday, 19 June 2004 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link

i cant say enough good things about toshiba laptops.

mine is over a year old and i havent had it freeze up on me to the point of rebooting a single time. it is fabulous. pretty quiet as well.

todd swiss (eliti), Sunday, 20 June 2004 04:25 (nineteen years ago) link

man, the gateways, I was looking at, and their sellers have disappeared, from ebay. dodgy.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 20 June 2004 07:59 (nineteen years ago) link

anyone got any ebay horror stories, to put me off? or are you good at spotting potential SCAMS?

Well, my sister and a friend, both with good positive feeback, were phished and before they realised it high end electrical goods suddenly appeared on their seller lists. Look at their payment options, avoid anything which asks for a money order or wire transfer only.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 20 June 2004 09:42 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, so my gf wants a laptop computer - can someone recommend
me:

- Can't be a Mac. Boo hiss etc.
- Reasonable price (around 1200 UKP tops - cheaper the better)
- It'll be used for basic Home Office stuff - no need for
super-duper graphics accelerator etc. Reasonable sized HD
(20Gb would be fine). Processor needs to be good enough to
handle Dreamweaver, Word, Excel, Acrobat. Not blazing super
duper but not clunky old shite
- key issue - needs built in 56K Modem, Ethernet card and
wireless ready - 11g standard if poss. But wireless is not necessary if has PCMIA card slot for
wireless card - how much do they go for? Is it better to go
for a built in standard, or use card slots?
- Pretty robust as it'll be moved a bit, and not too heavy
either (ie, given the price, a nice Vaio is out, but nor do
we want an anvil typewriter stylee thing).

Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 20 June 2004 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Dave, I chose this when I recently bought a laptop. I recommend that you don't buy any extra RAM at dell, since it it is dreadfully expensive. Instead you should buy the RAM from somewhere else, like e.g. kingston.

A general tip is to buy a laptop which uses the Pentium M CPU (Centrino) since the CPU uses less power than the Pentium 4. Oh, and I'd choose a built-in wireless solution instead of using the PCMCIA route.

TBA (TBA), Sunday, 20 June 2004 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
My dad wants this - Toshiba Satallite A75-5229 - what do you guys think?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link

My mother has a Toshiba (Qosmio something), it's OK but nothing special - heavy and loud (being a gamer notebook). I don't like the TruBrite screen, it glares like a mofo.

The Dell Inspiron line looks like it has a few good deals depending on what he's looking for.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 01:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Is the A75 the hoofing great big 17" one? If it is, my dad has one, it's vile. Fujitsu Siemens seem to be producing some very good laptops at the moment.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 06:42 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
We're getting new PCs Laptops at work, and we don't want to spend more than 900 quid (inc VAT). I like the look of the Song FS415B but want to get some feedback. It's really about reliability; we don't want machines which after two years of carting about from home to office and back will suddenly packup and die. So, what are Sony's like? Any other recommendations for light, sturdy laptops which have a pleasing look?

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 17 March 2006 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Samsung, I always say this, but Samsung are great, and great value, also Fujitsu-Siemens.

Samsung X20 might be what you are looking for.

Ed (dali), Friday, 17 March 2006 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Are they robust? I carry my laptop from home to work every single day, so it needs to handle this easily enough.

I also think the screens on the Vaio are superb; are samsung screens OK?

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 17 March 2006 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Dave - very recent advice about Sony laptops here:

do you own a laptop?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 17 March 2006 13:00 (eighteen years ago) link

My X50 goes back and forward to work and all round the world with me and seems to put up with it. Samsung screens are great, not quite as good as sony, but pretty good.

Ed (dali), Friday, 17 March 2006 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
£300, deal or no deal?

MAXDATA ECO 4000 IW
Basic System

Processor: Intel® Celeron® M processor 370
(1.50 GHz, 400 MHz, 1 MB cache)
Operating System: Original Microsoft® Windows® XP
Home
Display/Resolution: 15.4 inch TFT -WXGA (1280 x 800)
Capacity: 256 MB DDR2 SDRAM
Chipset: Intel® 910 GML / ICH6-M
Disk: 40.0 GB hard drive, 5.400 (U/min)
Graphics: Intel® Media Accelerator 900
Sound: HD Audio System
Drives: DVD/CD-RW combo drive
Modem: Internal 56k modem/V.92
WLAN: WLAN 802.11 b/g
Network: LAN 10/100 MBit/s onboard
Interfaces: 3 x USB 2.0, 1 x PCMCIA Type II,
1 x LAN, 1 x Modem, 1 x IEEE1394
(FireWire), 1 x VGA external,
1 x S-Video-Out, 1 x Line-Out,
1 x Line-In, 1 x Mic-In,
1 x Kensington Lock
Dimensions: 353.8 x 25–33.5 x 250 mm
Weight: approx. 2.9 kg (depending on
configuration)
Software: Norton AntiVirus, Nero Express,
Power DVD Player
Warranty: 2 year warranty, 1 year pick-up &
return service (have to check this...)

or hang on longer for a low-end refurb mac costing twice as much, and with the possibly still latent possibility of making me FURIOUS every other day?

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

possibly

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:53 (seventeen years ago) link

(also memory should be 512, not sure what it's expandable to however, and HD is 80GB)

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link

that, vs what i got on ebay

price: £300 vs £210
proc: celeron 1.5 vs pentium m 1.7
xp: home vs professional
ram: 512 vs 512
hd: 80 vs 80

cant remember the rest of the stuff, i only bought it to fuck around with linux on, though the fact that it runs better than my powerbook means i might shift reaktor over there.

i guess they're pretty comparable, but the fact you can pay £90 less not to have celeron must be worth investigating

Storefront Church (688), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:11 (seventeen years ago) link

so a 2.0ghz macbook is £879

a 2.16ghz macbookpro is £1349. and apparently you need some sort of seatbelt too

other than some graphicy stuff, explain to me what is so good about the MBP. you can shout if you like, i don't mind!

Friendly Tree (688), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

It makes you feel important

UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Express card slot, more L2 cache larger hard disk, shiny

Ed (dali), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, good to know about the L2

UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Also an opportunity not to have the glossy screen.

Ed (dali), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago) link

You may wish to hold off on Macbook (pro) buying as an update is due, probably with an LED backlight which will improve battery life.

Ed (dali), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:32 (seventeen years ago) link

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/


I wonder if I can hold of till WWDC.... Ed, any word on what's next for the desktop Macs?

UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 5 February 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link


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