Nick Cave : Classic or Dud ?

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http://acltv.com/mentioned-artist/nick-cave-the-bad-seeds/

Cave and band taped an episode for the Austin City Limits tv show

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

I fought the movie all the way, as I find Cave increasingly pompous and occasionally silly, but it works, mostly.

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 00:17 (nine years ago) link

I absolutely loathe Cave and find him a ridiculous son of a doctor, so will struggle with this movie.

xelab, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link

Is this out yet? I liked the trailer.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:34 (nine years ago) link

Even if you didn't like his material, the shear mass of his body of work makes him an undeniable classic.

While the Cave-penned screenplays for both "The Proposition" and "Lawless" are benefited greatly by tremendous performances from the cast, he seems to have a pretty solid grip on that form as well.

Additionally, the soundtrack for "The Proposition" by Cave and Warren Ellis is nearly another character in the movie.

bodacious ignoramus, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link

Film has run for 3-4 weeks in NYC.

I do like The Proposition a lot, whereas I have not paid the music much heed since The Boatman's Call.

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:07 (nine years ago) link

his recent stretch of albums is a lot better than the immediate post-boatman era.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:13 (nine years ago) link

agreed

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 04:03 (nine years ago) link

i have found that no more shall we part & nocturama are much more listenable for me now than when they were released... not sure why exactly, though

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 04:06 (nine years ago) link

And No More Shall We Part is tremendous... can't say i've enjoyed the last few studio albums though. Lyre of Orpheus probably the most recent goodie.

jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 08:36 (nine years ago) link

The film had its moments but I was somewhat underwhelmed. For me, the long therapist scene slowed it down horribly. If you are a big Nick Cave fan, as I am, you have heard all that stuff (e.g. his dad talking about Lolita) dozens of times. I would have loved a whole film of NC just hanging out with Warren Ellis and/or his kids.

Meanwhile, he announced a solo European tour next spring last week, though most of the dates sold out pretty quickly. I got some good seats for the first show in Glasgow. Although they're billed as solo shows, Warren Ellis, Martyn Casey, Thomas Wydler and Barry Adamson will be playing with him.

Lastly, it looks like a lot - maybe all - of Nick's records will be re-released on vinyl over the next few months. I've been harassing Mute/his management for years to please let me pay hundreds of pounds for a box set, though it doesn't look like anything as fancy as that is coming. The first batch of re-releases are as follows:

Oct 27
From Her To Eternity
First Born is Dead
Your Funeral My Trial

Nov 17
Dig!!! Lazarus!!! Dig!!!
Abbatoir Blues/Lyre of Orpheus
Nocturama

November 24
Kicking Against The Pricks

I am ridiculously excited about this. I'm hoping they've made Dig!!! Lazarus!!! Dig!!! a proper double album (the original version had the last song on a separate 7-inch single).

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 09:08 (nine years ago) link

Saw the film this weekend, and yeah mixed feelings.

Liked:
Nick Cave taxi service (esp. Blixa)
The archive (Pew piss/punch commentary especially)
The look of it
Closing performance

Disliked:
most of the Deep Thoughts voice overs
Most of the music (not a PTSA fan)

Missed Royal Albert Hall tickets but then noticed the Hammersmith gig on his website basically before it was announced & got great tickets - middle of the second row. Best tickets I've had for anything ever tbh, v happy.

woof, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 09:22 (nine years ago) link

FINALLY xp

people are straight up pirating those on vinyl b/c the demand is so high, I see all these lame color copied LPs with the loose shrink on 'em

sleeve, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link

right now one of the 80's LPs on Homestead will run you around $50 used

sleeve, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link

these Brit and Aussie guys who wish they had hillbilly peckers do make me larf

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link

Lol! he spent years being a slumming poseur-douchebag in sao paulo, trying to make his hilbilly pecker origin story work, then he got bored and moved to a posh bit of London with some excellent schools.

xelab, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link

meh not that different from Dylan really

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link

It is going to be very easy for people buying me Christmas presents this year.

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link

aw yeah, Funeral & Lazarus are both 2LP sets

sleeve, Wednesday, 15 October 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link

never been a fan but i thought the movie was good in parts.

mattresslessness, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link

why would you see this if you weren't a fan?

akm, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link

because my boyfriend wanted to see it

mattresslessness, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link

it looked like it had something interesting to say about creativity, which it did, even if it was shopworn. i'm generally ok with slumming brit and aussie guys who wish they had hillbilly peckers as long as their music isn't laughably overblown garbage.

mattresslessness, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link

i'm a fan of warren ellis fwiw.

mattresslessness, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

listening to This Is The Sea by waterboys this week for the first time, and outside of Whole Of The Moon it struck me as mega mega Bad Seedsy in places, albeit with a far wimpier vocalist... i'm sure everyone Seeds involved would be horrified by the comparison

jamiesummerz, Monday, 20 October 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

some minor chuckling at how the build-up to the "Jubilee Street" performance at the end reminded me of the title track in "Purple Rain"

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 26 March 2015 04:53 (nine years ago) link

I finally saw the movie a few weeks back and really enjoyed it, much more than I thought I would. It took me a bit to get used to the..arch-ness?... of it, but goddamn the colors were so rich & it was shot so beautifully, it was impossible not to kinda fall back in love with him

i started to feel a bit fangirly, esp during the archive stuff, that was fun

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 March 2015 05:17 (nine years ago) link

and the little bit of blixa stuff was <3

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 March 2015 05:17 (nine years ago) link

He has a new book thing coming, The Sick Bag Song, a kind of tour diary written on airline sick bags. You can buy a limited edition version of it for £750. Might give that a miss.

http://www.thesickbagsong.com/
http://pitchfork.com/news/58943-nick-cave-compares-sick-bag-book-to-kanye-west-pornhub-more-in-silly-promo-video/
http://thequietus.com/articles/17474-nick-cave-announces-sick-bag-song-book

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 26 March 2015 14:53 (nine years ago) link

yeah i saw that

weird

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 March 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link

seeing this movie somehow just made me feel worse about the maron interview

Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 26 March 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link

i still havent listened to that...secondhand embarrassment is holding me back

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 March 2015 01:37 (nine years ago) link

Telling that Mick Harvey wasn't one of the car interviews.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 27 March 2015 01:58 (nine years ago) link

not telling of anything we didn't already know

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Friday, 27 March 2015 02:21 (nine years ago) link

^^^

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 March 2015 02:53 (nine years ago) link

i do miss him. it's fine without him but it's just not quite right :/:

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 March 2015 02:54 (nine years ago) link

then again, it's not like we can't just watch the other movies

http://youtu.be/5UMba2Rq8j4

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 March 2015 02:59 (nine years ago) link

dont really get what was so embarassing about the Maron interview

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 27 March 2015 09:50 (nine years ago) link

yeah me neither, thought it was just Cave being Cave: forthright, a little testy, but still likeable.

charlie h, Friday, 27 March 2015 11:51 (nine years ago) link

unprepared weirdo maron being the embarrasment, not cave.

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 March 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link

For real, I think Cave gets testy cuz it's obv Maron hadn't heard of Cave until a week before, though I think in the end it turns out to be a good interview

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 27 March 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link

yes. It does turn out ok. I just can't handle the initial awkwardness.

Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 27 March 2015 14:45 (nine years ago) link

I loved the bit in the movie with Warren Ellis when they talk about Nina Simone and Jerry Lee Lewis and get all excited and let themselves be music freaks. I also thought the "archives" visit was a nice arch bit of self-parody about his navel-gazing and high self-regard - but then it led into some really interesting stuff too.

The Maron interview wasn't bad at all - I think maybe Maron was just really thin-skinned about a couple of good-natured jabs from Cave.

Brio2, Friday, 27 March 2015 14:54 (nine years ago) link

The archives bit was a set-up, right? That can't be real...

Brio2, Friday, 27 March 2015 14:55 (nine years ago) link

ok it's all just sets. too bad. Warren Ellis really should live in that cottage.

http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/6259253/nick-cave-explains-the-truth-behind-his-staged-documentary-20000-days-on-earth

Brio2, Friday, 27 March 2015 15:02 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

new vinyl reissue of Tender Prey sounds AMAZING, I am very pleased with this purchase

sleeve, Thursday, 18 June 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link

I find myself thinking 'I want some champagne, some cocaine, and some sausages' most days

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 18 June 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

Nick Korv and the Bratwurst Party

Stevolende, Thursday, 18 June 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link

A friend who moved away maybe 7 years ago left me his record collection to hold on to until he stops living like a vagabond and returns to collect them someday. Tons of vinyl, a bunch of tapes, a couple of VHS tapes, and one dvd.

I set up a new TV and blu ray player recently and wanted to test it out, but all my dvds were upstairs and I remembered he had this one dvd sitting with all his other stuff right near the new TV, which happened to be the Nick Cave "God Is In The House" concert film. I picked it up and it felt much heavier than it should have, and upon opening it I found a stack of naked pictures of his now ex girlfriend.

I don't know why I found this so amusing but something a bunch of naked pics stashed in a Nick Cave dvd seems so appropriately seedy and awesome.

joygoat, Thursday, 18 June 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link


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