I was listening to the first disc of Rated O this morning and during "10:30 at the Oasis" the thought occurred they should do a collaboration with Oneohtrix Point Never.
― willem, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 13:05 (nine years ago) link
love the man forever/so percussion record
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 16 October 2014 01:57 (nine years ago) link
yes it's so great
oneida are playing here on saturday and i'm p stoked
― maura, Friday, 17 October 2014 01:06 (nine years ago) link
did anyone else score the Brah tapes? i snagged all 4 at the (mindblowing) show in Indy. they are all quite good...hard to believe it is cutting-room floor stuff.
wish i could've seen that guggenheim show...rats!
― dronestreet, Saturday, 6 December 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
Continued from the Disappears thread: I haven't heard the Brah tapes - got 'em on a bunch of wishlists but they're hensteethy. The O have refused to play anywhere within 1000 miles of me (granted, I'm kind of in the sticks) so I haven't had the chance to see them. I see they're finishing a new record, and another one with Rhys Chatham, both of which are promising developments.
If anyone is in a sharing mood, I'd really dig a chance to hear those tapes. I promise not to take any food out of the band's mouths.
― hardcore dilettante, Sunday, 7 December 2014 13:07 (nine years ago) link
Likewise, would love to hear those tapes (or purchase them, if that's possible).
― Position Position, Sunday, 7 December 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link
Ditto on the Brah tapes
― BlackIronPrison, Sunday, 7 December 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link
Sorry for derailing :) I like this new track quite a bit...probably more than anything else I've heard on record by them. Will definitely peep the full-length when it comes out.
― dronestreet, Sunday, 7 December 2014 17:31 (nine years ago) link
Rats. Wrong thread. I'm currently without a tape deck, but I'll see what I can do...
― dronestreet, Sunday, 7 December 2014 17:41 (nine years ago) link
<3 kid millions haven't seen this movie but i know he is otm about ithttp://thetalkhouse.com/music/talks/kid-millions-talks-whiplash-and/
― vigetable (La Lechera), Monday, 12 January 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link
<3 kid millionsbut he is not otm
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 January 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link
"Whiplash" is good imo
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 12 January 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
I haven't seen it, I should refrain from opining.
― vigetable (La Lechera), Monday, 12 January 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
oneida-headz - is there any way to get the recent brah tapes other than on cassette?
― tylerw, Monday, 12 January 2015 15:59 (nine years ago) link
I haven't seen it either, but the impression I got from the trailer is that it's not really about music as music, or rather that music could be substituted with any competitive young person activity in which there's a teacher-student or coach-student relationship. Like it might just as well be drumline drumming, or some kind of competitive dance team thing. But it also didn't seem totally far-fetched to me that there are musicians out there who might treat jazz big band that way. Although that doesn't square AT ALL with my high school and college big band playing experience -- we did go to competitions, but even when we were competing the director was much more interested in making sure we captured the nuances and feeling of the music than in some kind of tempo contest. I don't see any of that as necessarily meaning it isn't a good movie though.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 17:57 (nine years ago) link
saw oneida on saturday with james mcnew playing bass? is that a thing? great show but they got kicked off stage after like half an hour for some macbook dj.
― adam, Monday, 12 January 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link
Yikes, that sounds criminal. Half an hour is not enough time. McNew has played with them before though.
― grandavis, Monday, 12 January 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link
it seems like a movie about abusive teachers who "force greatness" out of their carefully chosen students and that's not my thing at all, movie about drumming and teachers aside. i dunno. maybe it's like the Nadia of drumming movies.
― vigetable (La Lechera), Monday, 12 January 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link
seems like mcnew is pretty much in oneida now? at least he's been playing live w/ em for at least the past year or so. don't know if he contributes on record though.
― tylerw, Monday, 12 January 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link
the truncated show was a drag but they sounded awesome. two extended kraut jams and a rock and roll song. i spent all my merch table cash on beer, is the brah tapes stuff mailorderable? they def sold me on what they are doing these days.
― adam, Monday, 12 January 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link
oh man, that saturday bill had chris forsyth on it too...right? and yes - 30 minutes is way too short.
finally got a tape deck -- had a listening session where we went through all 4 brah tapes consecutively. together, it's a pretty massive double album worth of really good material, spanning everything from shorter burners in the vein of preteen weaponry to amorphous imposing improv with the flavor of "a list of the burning mountains", to oscillating, almost-mellow dronescapes. i've yet to digitize anything, but will get around to it if for no other reason than to listen to at work.
lots of stuff to look forward to in 2015, per their site:+Recording the THIRTEENTH Oneida album (This is Thirteen II—still gotta run that one by the guys).+Blowin’ the Rhys Chatham/Oneida album for Northern Spy+Layin’ the fourth People of the North album out on the stoop
till then, here's jam i (roughly) captured from july. pretty sure this is...new?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4zCl5uSXRg
― dronestreet, Monday, 12 January 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
nice jam. they didn't play that one on saturday.
chris forsyth w/ band was excellent too, they are playing bk again next month to which i will definitely go.
― adam, Monday, 12 January 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
― vigetable (La Lechera), Monday, 12 January 2015 18:48 (1 hour ago) Permalink
Since that kind of "greatness" is so anathema to what I consider great in drumming, I just feel like I'm going to have to go in not thinking of it as a music film. Then again music films generally tend to be even more fraught with cliches, impossibilities and fanciful myths than biopics in general.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:11 (nine years ago) link
Although it's not totally without precedent in the real world (pretty sure Buddy Rich did see music as that kind of competition, for example).
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
i hope it's good, but have a reaaally hard time imagining that it feels real to anyone with similar experiences. honestly i'm mostly hoping for hilarious camp.
― virtuoso thigh slapper (Jordan), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
yeah, i definitely saw all the stuff kid millions criticizes about the film as intentional, that ultimately the whole thing is about the sort of folly some people engage in, people who think you can turn somebody into charlie parker by throwing a cymbal at their head, and how some people have an exceptional kind of magnetism to where they can actually get folks to believe something that self-evidently stupid. that's not really a "jazz" thing per se.
― rushomancy, Monday, 12 January 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
russian olympic jazz
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
which reminds me I really wanna see that soviet hockey team doc. which takes me even further afield from this thread.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
that's why i compared it to Nadia -- the camp and the cartoonishly mean coach
― vigetable (La Lechera), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
clearly there is not much intersection between fans of the tv movie Nadia and Oneidalol
― vigetable (La Lechera), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
ah didn't catch the ref
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 12 January 2015 20:50 (nine years ago) link
lol xp
You couldn't hang with Oneida and their crowd unless you knew Nadia backwards and forwards
Couple of Brah Tapes tracks here:
http://jagjaguwar.com/blog/2015/01/european-tour-announce-oneida-to-perform-eleven-shows-in-europe-tour-starts-319/
― Position Position, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
http://www.thrilljockey.com/thrill/People-of-the-North/Era-of-Manifestations
― Dinsdale, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
Never sure which Oneida thread is "the" Oneida thread, but full recent set put up by NYCTaper:
http://www.nyctaper.com/2015/03/oneida-february-27-2015-the-bowery-ballroom-flacmp3streaming/
Like this minus the first song "Cedars", which just doesn't work for me for some reason. They cover This Heat, which is probably not a good idea for most bands but their take on "S.P.Q.R." is pretty sweet.
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 March 2015 22:43 (nine years ago) link
ooh thanks for this. I'm still looking for a way into this band. I have The Wedding, Secret Wars, Anthem Of The Moon, and the Nice EP. What am I obviously missing?
― sleeve, Thursday, 5 March 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link
honestly i feel like these live recordings are their best work!
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 March 2015 23:26 (nine years ago) link
Rated O and Each One Teach One are my favorites.
― Tomás Piñon (Ryan), Thursday, 5 March 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link
Each One Teach One is great, but I like Anthem of the Moon and Secret Wars a lot too (and Rated O). They really are best as a live experience though.
― grandavis, Friday, 6 March 2015 01:18 (nine years ago) link
Yeah Each One and Rated O pretty much spell it out.
― Unheimlich Manouevre (dog latin), Friday, 6 March 2015 01:32 (nine years ago) link
^ agree w this. honestly think the wedding and secret wars see them trying to be something other than what they naturally are (traditional rock band, rather than a god-level psychedelic groove machine), to generally disappointing effect. they have moments, those more song-driven albums, but nothing to stand with their best work. agree that the live show is the only way to truly know the O.
― Soylent News Service (contenderizer), Friday, 6 March 2015 04:19 (nine years ago) link
*makes mental note to attend next London Oneida show*
― Unheimlich Manouevre (dog latin), Friday, 6 March 2015 10:41 (nine years ago) link
oh snap http://www.songkick.com/artists/261418-oneida
― Unheimlich Manouevre (dog latin), Friday, 6 March 2015 10:42 (nine years ago) link
I missed the boat on them for a long time too, and found a way in through first the song "Run Through My Hair", then that 10th-anniversary comp they gave away. After that I was hooked.
― hardcore dilettante, Friday, 6 March 2015 13:59 (nine years ago) link
new EP out on Rocket Recordings
http://rocketrecordings.bandcamp.com/album/positions
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Friday, 4 December 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link
Want. But $20 shipping...
― dronestreet, Friday, 4 December 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link
So want. The $45 all-in price tag to Canada is effin rough, tho.
― hardcore dilettante, Friday, 4 December 2015 23:38 (eight years ago) link
Bingo. Would gladly buy @ a merch table, though. Crosses fingers.
― BlackIronPrison, Friday, 4 December 2015 23:54 (eight years ago) link
Accidentally ordered a couple copies anyhow. I guess at this point if kid millions was selling his owl figurines at sotheby's I'd be like "what the fuck anyhow, who needs to eat, I'll just put Antibiotics on loop and stare at these hypnotic owls til I starve to death."
― hardcore dilettante, Monday, 7 December 2015 06:18 (eight years ago) link