1995 sequels not sequels to defining films by high profile directors, featuring james woods: CASINO VS NIXON

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also how the after three hours of hopkins' walter matthau-meets-nosferatu shtick footage of the real nixon makes him look like a frisky guy

da croupier, Monday, 21 July 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link

Casino has my favorite wall-to-wall soundtrack ever. The recurring use of "Toad," the way the editing is structured around "I Ain't Superstitious," the switch from Ramsey Lewis' "The In Crowd" to Dobie Gray's, the delay/echo on "House of the Rising Son" when Ginger dies...if there's a single reason I prefer Casino, it's the perfectly absurd supercharged ramping-up of Goodfellas' soundtrack ambitions. Best thing Robbie Robertson ever did post-Band.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 21 July 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link

James Woods is kind of the best thing about both these movies

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 July 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link

Don Rickles def shoulda showed up in Nixon

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 July 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link

Could've used him here instead of that cheesy CGI:

http://www.newrepublic.com/sites/default/files/u36883/eisenhower-nixon-convention-wrist-grab-021413-inline.jpg

pplains, Monday, 21 July 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

omg

Οὖτις, Monday, 21 July 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link

http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Entertainment/gty_don_rickles_dm_120613_wg.jpg

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 21 July 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link

That's great, pplains, perfect fit.

Mr. Mohr: We understand that the power of decision is entirely yours, Mr. President. I just wondered if you could give us an example of a major idea of Vice-President Nixon's that you had adopted in that role, as the decider and final--

Eisenhower: That hockey puck? If you give me a week, I might think of one. And by the way, what's with that new look of yours? You auditioning to be one of the lepers in Ben-Hur?

clemenza, Monday, 21 July 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 25 July 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 26 July 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link

five years pass...

i rewatched Casino for first time since orig release and damn did not remember Stone hooking up w/ Pesci in last act... ow, my eyes!

Alan King plays the Teamsters' pension fund manager btw.

Central weakness is still that de Niro's character is among the least compelling protagonists of his major roles.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

that's true, his character doesn't have any motivations or nuances, just problems.

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 November 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

and the Stone/Pesci hookup def felt like an "oh, come ON why is this happening" moment

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 November 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

also forgot Woods, LQ Jones *and* Frankie Avalon are in this

not to mention Steve Allen/Jayne Meadows cameo

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

is this Woods last decent role?

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 November 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

Virgin Suicides probably

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:29 (four years ago) link

but i didnt see TV movie where he played Giuliani lol

there should be a sequel

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

four Louis Prima cues in Casino, btw, vs two of "Gimme Shelter"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

Re: Casino — Mentioned elsewhere but my dad had a pal in Chicago was a lawyer, and he worked for (with?) Anthony Spilotro, the mobster upon whom Pesci’s character was based (names changed to protect the something something...they also never uttered the word “Chicago” in Casino, they just cued up Muddy Waters and used the “back home years ago” title card). Anyway my dad met him coming out of a meeting with his friend, a guy I met a few times as a kid and I’d ask him about Anthony but he also wound up dead in a trunk in the early ‘90s.

Casino is fascinating, DeNiro’s character is unusual and I appreciate that. The real life guy was just a total genius and just a highly gifted whiz. I heard an interview with him and my remembrance is was just that guy, all numbers and facts and he could remember all of these things. He was probably a bit more on the spectrum than DeNiro played him, but as it stand I think he’s very good. The Stone/Pesci thing works fine for me.

Oh and the movie is just really beautiful to look at, and as a gangster film it foretells a bit what apparently Scorsese is kind of exploring in The Irishman regarding the ultimate cost of the gangster life. The cornfield scene is just such a singular deglamorizing moment of cruelty and emptiness and hopelessness.

omar little, Friday, 8 November 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

Plus come on, the "hammer" scene is classic

always loved Casino. I used to have a manager that stood, scowling with his arms crossed, watching the restaurant, and I used to tell him he was Ace Rothstein.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 November 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

yeah but a Hugely Talented Bookie is a def gamble as a 3-hr movie protagonist

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 November 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/u68o88U.jpg

pplains, Friday, 8 November 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

not ashamed to admit I shared that meme on FB last month

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Friday, 8 November 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

lmao

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 November 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

Always loved Rickles roasting Scorsese at the AFI tribute

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RONkAEMduSc

omar little, Friday, 8 November 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

Reading about all the real-life characters in Casino is incredibly fascinating. Some guy really did get his head squeezed in a vice, and after he confessed, the real-life “Charlie M” guy asked to be strangled to death instead of shot so that his wife could collect insurance.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 9 November 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link

I thought this had been posted here already, The Frank Rosenthal Show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46fA05_eBZg

pplains, Saturday, 9 November 2019 01:40 (four years ago) link

Judging by his looks, shoulda had Don Knotts play him

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 November 2019 02:24 (four years ago) link

Hollywood actors always look way more intimidating than the real gangstas

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 November 2019 02:25 (four years ago) link

four Louis Prima cues in Casino, btw, vs two of "Gimme Shelter"


And multiple “Toad”s. Robbie Robertson may have hated Cream, but he knew what worked. The wall-to-wall cues in the first 1/3rd of the film are masterful, particularly the Jeff Beck Group/hammer scene climax. The imitations of this approach, particularly in American Hustle, are embarrassingly clumsy and should never have been attempted.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 9 November 2019 03:47 (four years ago) link

American Hustle is so bad

Οὖτις, Saturday, 9 November 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link

The gunmen shooting out the windows of a house to Devo (née Stones) going Baby Baby A B A B A B A B A B was good Scorsese doing Scorsese.

pplains, Saturday, 9 November 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link

When Trump said he was gonna host a fireside chat on TV to read the Ukraine transcript, the first thing I thought of was De Niro’s talk show in Casino.

I’ve never seen Nixon. I’m not a Hopkins fan and the only Stone movie I really like is Salvador. All the others are unintentional comedies.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 9 November 2019 03:54 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

(from a December 1998 airing of Casino on USA Network) pic.twitter.com/zQJLYs2T4B

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𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 22:21 (two years ago) link

I didn’t even need to click the link, I knew exactly what was coming. God that movie was on cable TV all the damn time.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 00:12 (two years ago) link

Didn't "motherfucker" turn into "jag-off" in mainstream broadcasts of Goodfellas around the same time?

clemenza, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 03:32 (two years ago) link

Evokes fond memories of the "melonfarmer" dub of Repo Man.

lemmy incaution (emsworth), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 03:39 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Love this clip of Don Rickles fucking with Robert De Niro on the set of Casino. Who else could get away with this shit? Legend.

pic.twitter.com/o32DV7cx4r

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