Nick Cave : Classic or Dud ?

Rehab?

And The Ass Saw The Angel, I'd guess.

"Johnny Suede"?

A great interview.

And yeah they've really been on fire this tour, the Mpls gig was probably one the best shows I've ever seen.

And The Ass Saw The Angel, I'd guess

Can't be that as it's referred to in the article.

Think it probably was just rehab, as Josh in Chicago says. See the first couple of paragraphs here, for example:

http://nickcave.com/music/nickcaveandthebadseeds/the-good-son/information/

Here's a more recent interview/article, from last week's NY Times Sunday Magazine, in case you missed it:

http://nyti.ms/1mFsiYg

I was pretty surprised at the ILM reaction to the last album. I thought it was fantastic, and nothing at all like Boatman's Call/NMSWP (neither of which I ever really feel like listening to, aside from a few Boatman tracks) which it was compared to. I wonder though how much of it was due to listening to poor digital streams/files on poor headphones/computer speakers, as I do think it's a more subtle album that might be difficult to appreciate if you can't hear what's going on.

Once I listened to the whole of Push the Sky Away I loved it, and it's probably the record I've listened to most in the past year. I was disappointed by We No Who U R, as a single, initially, because it did sound like it was supposed to be a Boatman's Call/NMSWP-type song, and a really dull one at that. But as you say, the album's a completely different record - not really built around that kind of songwriting - and even We No Who U R fits perfectly on it.

Actually yeah now that you mention it I was a bit skeptical when I first heard the single too.

Very much looking forward to 20,000 Days in any case.

i love how the endless choruses of 'the mercy seat' vary subtly so that you can never sing along

the bad seeds are just ungodly awesome on this new tour, was probably top 5 shows ever for me

i love push the sky away, so much space and really cool low-key groove based record

the last bad seeds show i saw (15 years ago) is top 5 ever for me so i am hyped for tonight. what's the current setlist look like?

Lots of stuff from the new record, plus one song from most of the other records

awesome, thanks. i look forward to hearing the live arrangements of these new songs

"Jubilee Street" in particular is different and awesome

the periodic eruptions into swansian double-percussionist industrial maelstroms were really something.

i think it's kind of a shame that he writes pretty good piano ballads b/c they are still the least interesting thing that he does. those aside they maintained an impressive level of intensity across the sparser new stuff (like higgs boson blues or jubilee street), the early harsh stuff, and the "pop" stuff (a la red right hand). best show i've seen since sade for sure, and not entirely dissimilar.

and i liked "into my arms" shit too, don't get me wrong, but i was embarrassed for the people of new orleans when they started like fucking waving their arms and clapping in vague rhythm. ugly scene.

http://acltv.com/mentioned-artist/nick-cave-the-bad-seeds/

Cave and band taped an episode for the Austin City Limits tv show

I fought the movie all the way, as I find Cave increasingly pompous and occasionally silly, but it works, mostly.

I absolutely loathe Cave and find him a ridiculous son of a doctor, so will struggle with this movie.

Is this out yet? I liked the trailer.

Even if you didn't like his material, the shear mass of his body of work makes him an undeniable classic.

While the Cave-penned screenplays for both "The Proposition" and "Lawless" are benefited greatly by tremendous performances from the cast, he seems to have a pretty solid grip on that form as well.

Additionally, the soundtrack for "The Proposition" by Cave and Warren Ellis is nearly another character in the movie.

Film has run for 3-4 weeks in NYC.

I do like The Proposition a lot, whereas I have not paid the music much heed since The Boatman's Call.

his recent stretch of albums is a lot better than the immediate post-boatman era.

agreed

i have found that no more shall we part & nocturama are much more listenable for me now than when they were released... not sure why exactly, though

And No More Shall We Part is tremendous... can't say i've enjoyed the last few studio albums though. Lyre of Orpheus probably the most recent goodie.

The film had its moments but I was somewhat underwhelmed. For me, the long therapist scene slowed it down horribly. If you are a big Nick Cave fan, as I am, you have heard all that stuff (e.g. his dad talking about Lolita) dozens of times. I would have loved a whole film of NC just hanging out with Warren Ellis and/or his kids.

Meanwhile, he announced a solo European tour next spring last week, though most of the dates sold out pretty quickly. I got some good seats for the first show in Glasgow. Although they're billed as solo shows, Warren Ellis, Martyn Casey, Thomas Wydler and Barry Adamson will be playing with him.

Lastly, it looks like a lot - maybe all - of Nick's records will be re-released on vinyl over the next few months. I've been harassing Mute/his management for years to please let me pay hundreds of pounds for a box set, though it doesn't look like anything as fancy as that is coming. The first batch of re-releases are as follows:

Oct 27
From Her To Eternity
First Born is Dead
Your Funeral My Trial

Nov 17
Dig!!! Lazarus!!! Dig!!!
Abbatoir Blues/Lyre of Orpheus
Nocturama

November 24
Kicking Against The Pricks

I am ridiculously excited about this. I'm hoping they've made Dig!!! Lazarus!!! Dig!!! a proper double album (the original version had the last song on a separate 7-inch single).

Saw the film this weekend, and yeah mixed feelings.

Liked:
Nick Cave taxi service (esp. Blixa)
The archive (Pew piss/punch commentary especially)
The look of it
Closing performance

Disliked:
most of the Deep Thoughts voice overs
Most of the music (not a PTSA fan)

Missed Royal Albert Hall tickets but then noticed the Hammersmith gig on his website basically before it was announced & got great tickets - middle of the second row. Best tickets I've had for anything ever tbh, v happy.

FINALLY xp

people are straight up pirating those on vinyl b/c the demand is so high, I see all these lame color copied LPs with the loose shrink on 'em

right now one of the 80's LPs on Homestead will run you around $50 used

these Brit and Aussie guys who wish they had hillbilly peckers do make me larf

Lol! he spent years being a slumming poseur-douchebag in sao paulo, trying to make his hilbilly pecker origin story work, then he got bored and moved to a posh bit of London with some excellent schools.

meh not that different from Dylan really

http://louderthanwar.com/nick-cave-and-the-bad-seeds-to-reissue-all-14-albums-on-vinyl/

It is going to be very easy for people buying me Christmas presents this year.

aw yeah, Funeral & Lazarus are both 2LP sets

never been a fan but i thought the movie was good in parts.

why would you see this if you weren't a fan?

because my boyfriend wanted to see it

it looked like it had something interesting to say about creativity, which it did, even if it was shopworn. i'm generally ok with slumming brit and aussie guys who wish they had hillbilly peckers as long as their music isn't laughably overblown garbage.

i'm a fan of warren ellis fwiw.

listening to This Is The Sea by waterboys this week for the first time, and outside of Whole Of The Moon it struck me as mega mega Bad Seedsy in places, albeit with a far wimpier vocalist... i'm sure everyone Seeds involved would be horrified by the comparison

some minor chuckling at how the build-up to the "Jubilee Street" performance at the end reminded me of the title track in "Purple Rain"

I finally saw the movie a few weeks back and really enjoyed it, much more than I thought I would. It took me a bit to get used to the..arch-ness?... of it, but goddamn the colors were so rich & it was shot so beautifully, it was impossible not to kinda fall back in love with him

i started to feel a bit fangirly, esp during the archive stuff, that was fun

and the little bit of blixa stuff was <3

He has a new book thing coming, The Sick Bag Song, a kind of tour diary written on airline sick bags. You can buy a limited edition version of it for £750. Might give that a miss.

http://www.thesickbagsong.com/
http://pitchfork.com/news/58943-nick-cave-compares-sick-bag-book-to-kanye-west-pornhub-more-in-silly-promo-video/
http://thequietus.com/articles/17474-nick-cave-announces-sick-bag-song-book

yeah i saw that

weird

seeing this movie somehow just made me feel worse about the maron interview

i still havent listened to that...secondhand embarrassment is holding me back

Telling that Mick Harvey wasn't one of the car interviews.