haha yeah people are like "LULU is so nuts" and i'm not even sure it's the most bonkers record he released in the 2000s! (aka Raven)
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 July 2014 19:04 (nine years ago) link
Yeah Lulu certainly wasn't such a bolt from out of the blue if you had even been sort of following Lou in last 15 yrs...that was one of the best things about Lulu, is it forced people in the mainstream who either didn't know shit about Lou or only knew "Perfect Day" / "Walk on the Wild Side" to contend with him now and all of his wonderful weirdness.
But Tyler's dead on about Lulu being a piece with Ecstasy for sure..."Like a Possum" for inst
Also, Lulu threads bringing out all the Lulu stans
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
yeah I guess I've always felt "Walk on the Wild Side" was treading close to a line of (perhaps unintended) hostility that I didn't want to deal with so hearing from people who have been doing deep Lou dives that shit like "I swallow your sharpest cutter like a coloured man’s dick," is not only par for the course but part of the appeal, well I think everyone can see where I'm going here
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
so hearing from people who have been doing deep Lou dives that shit like "I swallow your sharpest cutter like a coloured man’s dick," is not only par for the course but part of the appeal, well I think everyone can see where I'm going here
i guess i wouldn't really say that at all, if you mean racial stuff?
i mean him just generally being insane
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link
or not insane, i dunno, who knows i guess in some ways it was all very deliberate too
i should say not in the 2000s, he was way more problematic in the 70s
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link
They're linked together though; it's castable as "insane" and "provocative" now because of the times we live in and the presumption that Lou Reed doesn't live in a vaguely racist bubble (which, as someone who hasn't ever followed him closely, I have no idea if he does or not; I've only made judgments based on the work I've encountered, some of which is hilarious but some of which has this undercurrent of "I should probably not scratch the surface of this too deeply if I don't want to ruin my day")
That being said, my own ignorance is acting against me here so I'll shut up; I more wanted to point out that some of the things that were called out about this album put it pretty firmly in the "do not engage" category for what are I hope obvious and understandable reasons.
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link
"I swallow your sharpest cutter like a coloured man’s dick,"
do do-do do-do do-do-do-do do do-do
― heavy on their trademark ballads (Eazy), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link
http://www.smalltowngirl.com.au/
― tylerw, Friday, 22 August 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link
Seems like he's just being Lou, jazz fan and author of "I Wanna Be Black," a 60s rocker/hipster send-up; also, you know, provocative (but not nec. ironic, not here): "In other words, I swallow your aharpest cutter avidly, Jim."
― dow, Saturday, 23 August 2014 01:10 (nine years ago) link
i want to give them a lot of money
― markers, Saturday, 23 August 2014 01:14 (nine years ago) link
not really, but that's inspired naming imo
i'd pay a good amount for this one.
http://www.smalltowngirl.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/7-transformer-7-of--450x450.jpg
― Treeship, Saturday, 23 August 2014 01:19 (nine years ago) link
"And after Lou's death, David Bowie made a big point of saying to me, 'Listen, this is Lou’s greatest work; this is his masterpiece. Just wait, it will be like Berlin. It will take everyone a while to catch up.'
http://classicrock.teamrock.com/news/2015-04-20/david-bowie-hailed-lou-reed-metallica-lulu-album-as-genius
That's probably hyperbole, but all the same I continue to revisit and enjoy this album (even if it is really a bit too long). Love the production, Lou's delivery and Metallica's playing. Cool lyrics too, almost got into a fight with a friend recently because he kept mocking the "table" line lol.
― niels, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 10:20 (eight years ago) link
haven't listened to the album since it came out, but this thread seriously belongs in a museum -- so much gold in here.
― charlie h, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 13:17 (eight years ago) link
If I had been the newspaper boy delivering bad news to Don McLean's doorstep about Buddy Holly, and he asked me, "Will anything good ever come out of this tragic event?" - I would've said yes and handed him a vinyl copy of LULU.
― pplains, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 13:19 (eight years ago) link
I've been listening to this record a lot recently. Usually only about half of it at any given go, but I skip different tracks each time, and I never skip the last two tracks. 'Dragon' is just as great as 'Junior Dad'.
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link
listening listening to this right now, sounding so good
in a coffin SOOOOOUL SHAKIN.....SOOOOOOUL SHAKIN
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:16 (eight years ago) link
more and more it's so great that this crazy record was Lou's final statement. kind of surprised there haven't been more archival things released though -- I guess the VU reissue train keeps a rollin, but wouldn't mind if there were some expanded reissues. You know, The Complete Lulu Sessions (12 discs at least).
― tylerw, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:20 (eight years ago) link
like a COMMMON STATE WORK-AH
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:21 (eight years ago) link
― tylerw, Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:20 AM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah I actually think about this a lot, like compared to most iconic people, I love that guy who had a super sprawling illogical career went out with maybe his (2nd most) divisive album (though Metal Machine Music is kind of canonized in a way)...it's absolutely relentless and insane, really fucked in parts, really great in parts
so much better than some kind of "return to form" respectable record like the last Bowie record or some kind of horrible "guest stars" Santana bit...
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:23 (eight years ago) link
Lou Reed's final record is one of the most visceral and alive records I've ever heard.
Warren Zeavon has The Wind.
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link
all otm!
I think it's the liner notes to New York where Lou suggests you take in the album in one focused sitting and then it's kind of like a movie. Really applies to LULU too for me, remember when I got it on vinyl I had a couple of good nights with friends where we'd listen to it all the way through while drinking a case of beer - Junior Dad is such a fantastic emotional payoff when you've been through all the frustration and desire up till then.
I think the way this album depicts sex, perversion, numbness, frustration is real interesting - and Junior Dad is just so touching, I think it made me realize some stuff abt my relation to my dad.
― niels, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link
[q]GQ: There's been some talk about how the song "Junior Dad" brought Kirk and James to tears. What do you remember about that moment?
Lou Reed: Not just them...
Lars Ulrich: All of us. My dad was down there during the moment that you're talking about, and it was shared by everybody.[q]
Love that anecdote
What I mostly do now is listen to Brandenburg Gate and The View, then Iced Honey and then finish off with Junior Dad
― niels, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link
heh, I messed up the code
― niels, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
Didn't realize this was now on Spotify.
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link
hmm I don't see it is it under "Loutallica" or smth?
― niels, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/album/3FgLMfp5o2h2rAny7S6h57?si=1JfozsajQRSw2RWEdyfT8g ?
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link
no tracks where I am but looking forward to them being added!
― niels, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link
I forgot about this so hard!
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link
at last i can listen to lulu in its intended environment, my office
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link
album still amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adyC404_gEk
― tylerw, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
the manic confusion... of looooooove
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link
i beseech ya
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link
i keep lulu close to my heart at all times
hetfield's voice is (deliberately, i guess) real rough throughout but i love that high note he hits at the end of "cheat on me"
― flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
if there's an LP signed by all of them, it would have to be one of the most valuable records around.
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link
The Official Album Of The Darkest Timeline
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link
supreme violation
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
The adolescent sense of the skyThe feeling of billowing heartbeatsThe fingertips run through your hairThey run through your hair, hallucination, hallucination
― tylerw, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
I think I played Lulu twice.
I'm sure I've played both volumes of the ILX version, ooh...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link
Junior Dad has become one of my favorite songs
― Mule, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link
Ocean and Junior Dad and you can have the rest
― ... (Eazy), Thursday, 14 June 2018 01:36 (five years ago) link
psychic savagery
― ciderpress, Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:28 PM (six years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― ciderpress, Friday, 3 July 2020 13:00 (three years ago) link
Sorry. Didn't know where else to put this.
― pplains, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link
OMG
― the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 05:54 (three years ago) link
could go here imo
― the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 05:55 (three years ago) link
Far better than Lulu TBH.
― chap, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link
a new planetary system
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link