That's ridiculous. It's not even funny.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 16:57 (nine years ago) link
guns
― OutdoorF on Golf (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 July 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
Negativland have posted on Facebook that Ian Allen, a key early member who had to leave the band in the late eighties due to continuing health issues, has passed on after complications from surgery. Very sad news to hear -- he introduced the original group to Don Joyce, was a key force behind the design and concept of A Big 10-8 Place, pushed for the tape loop approach and more.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 11:30 (nine years ago) link
Direct link on FB
https://www.facebook.com/Negativlandland/timeline/story?ut=43&wstart=0&wend=1422777599&hash=-8355825573272387065&pagefilter=3
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 11:37 (nine years ago) link
Aw, jeez. RIP.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 12:56 (nine years ago) link
this does not seem like a band that would use Facebook.
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
http://boingboing.net/2015/01/21/r-i-p-negativlands-ian-alle.html
― Kibbutzki (Jaap Schip), Thursday, 22 January 2015 08:02 (nine years ago) link
Very, very sad news to hear -- Negativland reports that Don Joyce aka Crosley Bendix and many more, and the host of "Over the Edge," has passed on. A tremendous loss.
https://www.facebook.com/Negativlandland/posts/1098963353464741
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link
When he and Negativland discovered their mutual love for “found” sounds, an intensely collaborative creative partnership was cemented. It continued non-stop for the ensuing decades, with Don endlessly scanning the airwaves of radio and television, along with his massive LP collection, for new material, day by day, week by week. There was often a TV and a radio on in his room simultaneously, cassette recorders always at the ready. And as an extremely shy and often quite reclusive person, radio was a perfect medium for Don. He could reach thousands of people each week without having to deal with very many actual humans, just as he preferred it. Creating art was not only Don’s full-time pursuit, it was literally his life’s work. He had made it clear to the group as recently as a few weeks ago that he was happy and satisfied with what he had been able to achieve in his life, and were he not able to continue to work, his life would feel as good as over.Don Joyce’s singular editing style was laced with profundity and silliness in equal measure. His work was that of a dada humanist, able to wring unforgettable sentiments and statements out of material which originally spoke something entirely different. Hugely inspired by both the droll radio of Bob and Ray and the reckless free-form of the Firesign Theatre, he created a wicked language of repurposed purple prose which has inspired legions of other collage artists over the past three decades. He was the father of the form. One need only to listen to his work on “Time Zones” (on the Escape from Noise album) or “Piece of Pie” (in the No Business CD/book) to immediately tune into his unique wavelength.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 July 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link
Fuck.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 23 July 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
RIP. "It's All In Your Head FM" was one of my highlights from the first Big Ears.
― dart scar rashes (WilliamC), Thursday, 23 July 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link
Had a chance to talk a bit about him:
http://blog.sfgate.com/loaded/2015/07/23/don-joyce-radio-maverick-and-member-of-negativland-dies-at-71/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 July 2015 00:32 (eight years ago) link
good post ned
https://kpfa.org/ midnight pacific tonight - over the edge
― Milton Parker, Friday, 24 July 2015 01:48 (eight years ago) link
sorry for yr loss, MP
― sarahell, Friday, 24 July 2015 02:59 (eight years ago) link
on my drive home from work this evening I saw a man who looked a lot like Don standing on the corner of Grand & Broadway, and I got sad.
― sarahell, Friday, 24 July 2015 03:01 (eight years ago) link
Thanks Jon, much appreciated. Awfully kind of the band to share that out on FB.
A tribute:
https://kpfa.org/episode/the-hear-and-now-july-23-2015/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 July 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link
Tempted to smoke a cigarette in honor of Don.
I think I'd like to have a cigarette now. Where are my cigarettes, David?They're on top of the refrigerator.David, I'd like to know what you did with my cigarettes.They're under the house.My cigarettes are missing, David. I'd like to smoke. What did you do with them?They're in the toad cage.David, I'd like to have a cigarette right now but I can't find the package. I put them on the table and they're not there. Did you take them?I think we may have left them up at Grandma's house.My mother doesn't smoke, David. What did you do with my cigarettes?I told you, they're on top of the refrigerator.I looked on top of the refrigerator. They aren't there. will you please tell me what you did with my cigarettes?Maybe you left them in the car.I haven't been in the car all day. You must have put them somewhere and I can't find them. You better tell me now or I'm going to really get mad.Oh yeah, I think I know where they are. They're in back of the TV set, where all the parakeet feathers are.As you're cleaning the orange carpet, there'll be a voice that says: FETCH MY CIGARETTES.Another voice will say: THEY'RE ON TOP OF THE REFRIGERATOR.And then of course you've forgotten completely about the green slime.
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Friday, 24 July 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link
http://www.negativland.com/ote/?p=2592
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link
And now praise in turn for MP's own words and remembrances:
https://www.facebook.com/Negativlandland/posts/1103166776377732:0
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 July 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link
― stirmonster, Friday, 31 July 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link
Darn it. Richard Lyons has passed.
https://www.facebook.com/Negativlandland/photos/a.165153833512369.41221.131759750185111/1275537205807354/?type=3
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 April 2016 13:35 (seven years ago) link
damn.
it's not even funny.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 21 April 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link
cancer. Ugh. Only 57
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:22 (seven years ago) link
:( RIP
― lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link
booo
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 21 April 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link
first time I saw them live was on this tour:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_BfZFX5-eY
― coffe growing vpon the skull of a sock (sarahell), Thursday, 21 April 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link
fucking hell
― Odysseus, Thursday, 21 April 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link
holy shit this and prince? i was just listening to Dispepsi last week
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 April 2016 00:32 (seven years ago) link
http://boingboing.net/2016/10/17/negativlands-next-album-come.html
Well, ok then.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 00:40 (seven years ago) link
should I go see Mark Hosler solo?
― alpine static, Sunday, 15 July 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link
snuggles
― billstevejim, Monday, 16 July 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
eh?
― alpine static, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 03:19 (five years ago) link
30th anniversary of Helter Stupid this year. One of the all-time "you could never get away with that today" stories. Imagine some metal band trying to piggyback on a school shooting by claiming the killer was an obsessed fan of theirs.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 11 January 2019 00:47 (five years ago) link
I could see the edgelords trying.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 January 2019 01:40 (five years ago) link
I saw Hosler solo on Halloween (with The Weatherman opening!) - was way more groove-based, at times leaning dubward, than I would have expected. Very few vocal samples, and no explicit cultural-critical aspects at all.
― sans lep (sic), Friday, 11 January 2019 01:44 (five years ago) link
xpost - singing Ned's post to the tune of Take The Skinheads Bowling
― sans lep (sic), Friday, 11 January 2019 01:45 (five years ago) link
Helter Stupid is great, supreme entertainment.
― brimstead, Friday, 11 January 2019 02:02 (five years ago) link
new album out yesterday, it seems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObUIDD_ALo0&fbclid=IwAR3Pf_8dSECBp9xLqFh9B_cMN5JH4kgu6ELHVQpASAsBv-1hbLoLEUfFYTE
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 October 2019 12:32 (four years ago) link
let's try again
https://tinyurl.com/y496r7bl
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 October 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link
album stream
https://www.thewire.co.uk/audio/tracks/negativland-share-latest-album
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 26 October 2019 12:41 (four years ago) link
Nice, thanks! I think they’re playing a brief residency at Cafe Oto over the next few days. Might try to make it...
― tangenttangent, Saturday, 26 October 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link
This is great, thanks for the heads up. The videos are excellent (More Data, Destroying Anything) too.
I guess they've been workshopping some of this material for a while? I've been out of the loop since Free or so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf_i-iiUcRE
― Brakhage, Sunday, 27 October 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link
Oh cool, there's a nice video recording of a 2000 date in full on the Archive
― Brakhage, Sunday, 27 October 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link
The new album The World Will Decide is the best thing they've done since Helter Stupid. The stronger theming definitely helps.
The mirror image sequel to last year’s *True False*, *The World Will Decide* turns the focus away from our very human inability to accurately define reality, and towards the technologies attempting to do a better job at it. But if sorting true from false seemed like a full time job back when all we had to keep track of was our own minds, life alongside the machines built to connect us only seems to multiply the uncertainties.
― oblique allergies (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link
Performance by Negativland + SUE-C • Tuesday, March 23rd at 9:30pm EST: Part of the 59th Ann Arbor Film Festival. Free and open to the public.https://www.aafilmfest.org/
Live collage cinema and live collage sound! Legendary sound collage group Negativland teams up with legendary live cinema artist SUE-C to bring you a streaming audiovisual performance about our nervous systems, our realities, and the evolving forms of media and technology that inevitably insert themselves between them. Original music, found sounds, uniquely organic visuals, manipulated media, Boopers, and a few surprises are normal to come to your attention.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKI5BYfrKyw
― octobeard, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link
Great. thanks!I covered 180 d’ Gs to the FUTURE! for the long-gone, Whiney-edited Paper Thin Walls, also had a lively phone cnversation w Hosler, lall of that archived here:
https://papercomet.blogspot.com/2020/01/negativland-reviewinterview_19.html
A year or two later, I pitched Thingmotactic: https://papercomet.blogspot.com/2020/10/negativland-pitch-see-prev.html
Thought True False was uneven, mainly wordwise, but some amazing sounds---will have to check the 2020, din't know about that!
― dow, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link
Hosler is a very lively conversationalist!
― sarahell, Thursday, 25 March 2021 00:12 (three years ago) link
Yeah, and I wish I could have used more of what he was saying, but he was great with what we had room for, coming across at all times as the real deal. Negativland is a way of life.
― dow, Thursday, 25 March 2021 01:21 (three years ago) link
wow @ their last two albums. True False is great, World Will Decide is maybe even greater. not bad from a band I thought was done for!!
― frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link
Agreed! Some of their best work yet!
― nerve_pylon, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link