This is the thread where old-timers can ask millenials music-related questions about the recent past

ha ha I can see newjacks not digging Pavement, but didn't think I'd see "How can anyone enjoy these GBV songs with twelve hooks crammed into two minutes?"

― relentlessly pecking at peace (President Keyes), Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:02 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the things you ppl call hooks smh

you ppl

gen y aka millennial = b.1980-2000 imo

― Mordy, Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:30 AM (49 minutes ago)

Yeah, I think this is the generally accepted bracket. But even though I fall into it myself, I kind of see the question being more interesting answered by those born 1990 onwards. Not saying that you and others born in the '80s shouldn't respond if you want to, just where my interest lies. Also, maybe '80s kids fall into a time where things were changing but hadn't yet changed, if that's not too woolly a statement - I'm thinking like, I had the internet as a teenager, but it came at around 15 and was a very different place to today. A large period of my formative years were pre-internet, never mind pre- youtube, spotify, facebook, etc.

Yep. '88 here, and I feel like there's a whole world of difference between people who remember what life/music was like before the internet and people who don't. Where that dividing line is, I don't know. But somewhere in mid to late 80s I'm guessing.

there is a big cultural/technological/social difference between ppl born in 1980 and 1990, ppl born 1985 and 1995 etc

the real secret the feds don't want you to know about is that the concept of cultural generations is 100% bullshit and shouldn't be taken seriously for any reason

1 weird trick the generational bureau doesn't want u to kno

also weird: separating history into decades

Gen y really should be split pre/post high speed internet

We laugh but it already is in a way

this thread maybe deserves a second chance

probably not but still

I keep saying that ppl born b/w maybe like 78 and 85 should be called the "betweenials." Everybody start saying this plz.

Googled "betweenials" and found a lone Twitter mention. Shit; I thought I made it up.

it's too late now, the millennials are now old and jaded like us

did millennials grow up exposed to R&B at all or just hating U2, REM, Pavement, etc?

why does millennials never want to Weezer??

also, I wish the dumbfuck who hates Pavement would say that to my face while the stereo plays "Grounded", so I could tell him that's exactly what he is. Boyz are dyin on these streets!

I keep saying that ppl born b/w maybe like 78 and 85 should be called the "betweenials." Everybody start saying this plz.

and people born in 1976 are "bicentweenials"

Hi millennials. Are you planning a post-ironic discovery of roots rocks and/or Americana any time soon? It's so uncool now which actually makes it cool.

hasn't this already been a thing for a while?

uh oh kornrulez, you're even older and more out of touch than you thought.

has there been a critical reassessment of dave matthews yet? feel like that's coming eventually.

was I the one who hated pavement? you have permission to murder me as long as my grave says "fuck pavement" and nothing else

As someone born in 1985, I consider myself part of "Generation Y", but not really a "Millennial".

I feel like there's been a bit of Phish reassessment in recent years, but not quite Dave Matthews reassessment.

has there been a critical reassessment of dave matthews yet? feel like that's coming eventually.

I'm convinced that his popularity among my generation stems from the fact that nearly half of millennials smoked weed for the first time at a Dave Matthews concert.

I'm pretty sure there's been an Americana revival every decade for the past 10 decade.

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i'm born in 1988, came to music through my brother who is ~10 yrs older than me so operation ivy, early weezer, dillinger four, catchy pop punk stuff i guess. (this means i like pavement). i think the first CD I had was the first Gorillaz album (stole from my bro)? also a lot of distinct memories of downloading like, 'and out come the wolves' track by track on a 56k modem. you could listen to part of the song if you waited 20 minutes! the whole song would take longer. i bet i still have some of the CD-Rs from that

definitely interested in the perspective of people even younger tho, i definitely feel like i saw the internet *become* a 'thing'. would definitely be a sea change for it to already have been a 'thing' by the time you were scoping out things and forging your tastes

Young kids don’t understand the old timers never understanding why the young kids don’t know the old stuff

Yeah old stuff is so much harder to find nowadays

Heh, I can remember old-timers in the 80s not understanding why I didn't know Camel, Deep Purple and Uriah Heep.

I don't know where to put this, but I have noticed that younger millenials and zoomers seem to embrace music from all genres, and artists all along the hipness spectrum, equally and unselfconsciously and unironically with little regard to what's "cool" or not. That is amazing and wonderful. It seemed to take some sort of religious conversion to get a generation (or two or three) of corny indie fuxxors there, and it just comes naturally to today's kids.

it's one of the best upsides of spotify/youtube/celestial jukebox culture as presumed birthright

They're welcome to join the Xenakis listening thread.