Tangerine Dream S/D

Now I kind of want to cover silver crosses

Silver cloud/silver crosses medley

i have no idea what you are all on about re silver crosses, as i just hear one long slice of TD perfection.

i.e. logos is properly brilliant.

any love for solo froese? "ages" has never been out of my playlist for very long since i heard it earlier this year.

Yeah, ages is good as is Epsilon in Malaysian Pale - about as close as Froese ever got to making a Klaus Schulze album if memory serves. I don't like Pinnacles that much and tried and failed to find anything of interest he's done in more recent times.

I downloaded the wrong (rerecorded) version of Tangram :(

It's not awful, though.

peter baumann's solo stuff is nice too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBSQ19IeW6I

oops wrong link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQPZHwDs0fo

Ordered the expanded 2011 reissues of Atem, Alpha Centauri and Zeit. Should have 'em next week. Can't wait. Zeit is one of my favorite albums ever.

I've been deeply immersed in TD land for the last week or so. A lot of train rides to boston and back, a lot of delicious sequencers to keep the train going.

Have yet to find a TD record later than Canyon Dreams that I can stomach though. I read about them, I go listen to them, I turn them off. The trite chillout drum programming just kills me.

That's okay though. They've got dozens of records that totally slay.

a couple of tracks on underwater sunlight are worth hearing, but their last start to finish good album imo is Exit.

agreed re underwater sunlight ..

but only just.

optical race is like proto-vaporwave

That section starting 7 minutes into Logos is a real beauty.

Agree underwater sunlight is good stuff. But haslinger = harbinger of lameness for these guys. Or maybe loss of Franke = loss of funk. I need to listen to the album after, canyon dreams, again-- it skirts the edge of my tolerance.

Love all the froese/franke/schmoelling lineup stuff.

One album that gets overlooked is Green Desert- recorded in 73, with some reworking in 84 & released in 86. It's a good classic era TD record.

I was reading that it's basically froese and franke duo bc baumann was off swanning about in Nepal, and it ended up being basically their audition tape for virgin.

peter baumann's solo stuff is nice too

Big fan of his Leda album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skBPkERWSb0

Love the Leda record. Supposedly conceived as a bit of a Donna Summer cash-in to help keep Baumann's studio going at the time and he didn't want to be directly associated with it. It pretty much bombed of course and it's inspired and kind of unique despite all that! I gather there were some earlier sessions with a different vocalist that just may be seeing the light of day some time soon ;)

Recently happened on a copy of the Miracle Mile OST and I'd say for a later TD album it's definitely worth a go if you see it. Looks like it came out on Baumann's label as well, which is nice.

okay, logos is definitely vying for fave TD album atm

Logos is amazing

really wish they had worked with roland drum machines more, omg

and pretty much the best choir patch sound ever

really wish they had worked with roland drum machines more, omg

How worthwhile is the Legend soundtrack? Jon Anderson being on it is an extra incentive for me.

Listened to Rush's Moving Pictures, followed by TD's Force Majeure, tonight. They segued into each other really well.

timeley revival.

after years of being a stan for the 80s virgin albums, i decided it was time to fill the gap.
so yesterday i picked up phaedra, rubycon, and cyclone, along with the edgar froese boxset (similar to the TD ones, in that they pack in all 6 solo albums from the virgin era, plus b-sides/edits etc on 4 cds, and sell it for less than a tenner !)
lots to dive into.
yes, the vocals on side 1 of cyclone are a bit of a 'wtf' moment, but the second side track makes up for it, and, how on earth have i lived this long without having rubycon in my collection.

would love to see a hq full length concert from their mid/late 70s period.
there are various clips on youtube, but no full length concerts, well, not when i last had a dig.

ha i have the two virgin boxes in the mail on the way to me at the moment too, after relying on youtube all this time

looking fwd to having some berlin school to call my own

i paid more for the three individual cds yesterday than had i got both of the boxsets !

however, there would be a lot of duplication as i have the rest and i wanted the albums straight.
also, the boxsets spread albums across cds, and i prefer to listen to my t'dream in straight through album chunks.

that said, i will probably get them both as backups i.e. good for the car, and the edits/b-sides, as they really are excellent value for money.

robert : never heard the legend sound track, so cannot comment. sorry.

Yeah I wanted those box sets too but changing cds to hear a whole album is a big no no for me.

totally agree - hence why i went down the more pricey route.
why they chose that style to package the collection, as opposed to the normal route of each album in a cheap and cheerful cardboard sleeve, and then the extras on a seperate disc ..
i guess economics, but i would have thought minimal cardboard sleeves would be cheaper than the doubled up plastic box.
still shouldn't complain as the music is so bloody good :-)

How worthwhile is the Legend soundtrack?
Jon Anderson being on it is an extra incentive for me.

The Legend soundtrack is not their best work.

They were only given three weeks to do it. The original score was done by Jerry Goldsmith. Then at the last minute the producers decided to change it and Tangerine Dream were brought in.

Sonically it is similar to Le Parc, lots of digital sounds. But the tracks are less developed and there are not many layers to the music.

Jon Anderson does vocals on only one track. I think he wrote the lyrics for the track as well. The result sounds similar to the tracks he did with Kitaro on the 1992 Dream album.

Yeah legend is not top tier td film scoring. It plays a little better on the expanded bootleg than on the OST but it's not essential stuff. The goldsmith score, on the other hand, is bold, bizarre and well worth having.

Interesting rerecording of the t dream score was released on BSX a year or two ago. Fella did his own arrangement which blends td-mimicking synths with acoustic instruments, including Classical Chinese instruments.

The recent Tangerine Dream box sets are excellent value for money. But the sad thing about them is that three important tracks were not included: 'Barryl Blue', 'Chimes and Chains' and 'Haunted Heights'. These three tracks were originally released on an LP and cassette compilation called "Tangerine Dream '70 - '80". Each track was a solo composition by each member of the band. You can really hear 'who did what in TD' when you listen to these tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2rVxIGklCM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUlolYWQYGQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-4ukQaTXTI

could really use a cheap klaus schulze box, please music gods let this happen

Sorcerer is a killer soundtrack by these guys. There is some gurgling evil in some of those tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg3L56kOe6s#t=1389

i find it interesting how edgar has never done the 'lets revive the old school' thing.
i mean even jarre did when he redid oxygene live in the studio, he dig out all the original analogue kit, and with a couple of mates, recreated the album live, brilliantly.
but t'dream seem to have burnt their bridge to their past.
or, have they (i say they, but its basically edgar + extras now innit) ?

Edgar and son and co.

oh.
did not know that.
that makes it even weirder then as you would think a younger influence would be all :
'dad, its all about the old analogue groove now, not this preset digital shit ..'

Iirc his son has been in the band almost since they first went in their current ambient-dance direction? So he's probably not the one who's gonna bring that truth bomb

fair enough.
someone needs to have a word with them as the current love for analogue noises and drawn out grooves could easily be a thing for them.
i mean, if only there was a rick rubin of the electronica world.
cos, i genuinely believe that edgar and a revised crew could kill it if they revisited their glory days.

i once posted 'no mans land' on my site with no detail as to who it was.
my inbox was flooded with requests for info.
made in 1983, that track is pure proto-rave.

Their live rerecording of Sorcerer from this year was surprisingly not that bad

Hyperborea is such a great record xp

Well they did new versions of a few of their classic albums so they aren't against revisiting the past.

yeah, but revisions of their classics !!?
behave.
(i only mentioned jarre as an example of someone who is clearly aware that his excesses are no longer in demand .. )
wire up the modulars and tour without the singers.
that said, i would not turn down seeing them live with/without the excess.
however, the band only do one night in london now, and then head home.

and yes, hyperborea is insanely good .. i mean really really good.

i still say that electronica needs a rick rubin.
someone to come along and kick bands of the era up the arse and make them realise the errors of their recent ways.

all that aside .. should i track down the revisions then ?

I'll vouch for sorcerer. Not sure about the other remakes.

ok, the remastered edition of 'exit' arrived yesterday.
this means i now have the complete set of virgin era releases, apart from 'theif'.
as that's a soundtrack release, i never felt the urge to go that deep, am i missing out ?
i used to have 'exit' on cassette, so not heard this in years.
wasn't even aware that there are 2 variations of the cover art until i ripped it into the archive, and it displayed a different cover to the one i have seen for the last 30 odd years.
they did it with tangram as well, 2 different covers.