Morrissey really seriously ill?

xelab there's a thread for you btw

I don't think he's some far-right crank some seem eager to make him out to be. The "sub-species" comment seems the most indefensible, everything else seems to have been driven by NME which makes things sort of questionable. I understand reading "Bengali in Platforms" as racist but it's open to interpretation imho (is the narrator being patronizing, or admonishing, etc. it isn't really obvious), it's hardly "One in a Million". At any rate vilifying him only feeds into his persecution complex so keep it up guys

i agree w/ this. morrissey is obv a jerk who's said tons of stupid things, which makes it tempting to put the worst possible spin on everything he says, but i don't think most of this evidence adds up to him being mel gibson. that said, no denying he's gotten nastier and more unpleasant with time: he's pretty much a crank with a fixation on an idealized british past which has over time turned into a sort of creepy nationalism.

and obv it ought to go without saying that you can like the smiths and be appalled by morrissey as a person, just like you don't have to throw out your beatles records because john lennon once told brian epstein he ought to call his autobiography 'queer jew.'

Even if the NME stuff was all lies and slander sponsored by the Beef Council, dude is still a jackass who's has shown an unapologetic fascination with racist iconography and a glib-to-toxic disrespect for any ethnic group that makes his radar outside of a meet-and-greet line. Dude's a hall-of-fame lyricist/singer imo (if long past his prime) but i can't fathom why one would need to quibble on just how much of a racist he is, he's close enough to earn a "fuck that guy."

"We Hate It When Our Friends Become Shitcunts"
"You're the One For Me, Shitcunt"

Not really sure what is going on but always happy to see the indiscriminate fling of a 'shitcunt'

but srsly is he on anyone's deathpool

Shitcuntry Gates

Wishing death upon someone is just as shitcuntish as being racist, IMO.

*cough* http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/morrissey-i-nearly-voted-for-ukip-i-like-nigel-farage-a-great-deal-8446651.html *cough*

That interview's the most open he's been about his fucked up politics. Liking Farage is the least of it. Original article:

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but srsly is he on anyone's deathpool

this is what i was wondering yesterday

Wishing death upon someone is just as shitcuntish as being racist, IMO.

would be a good ilx poll

other possible options:

demurring in an RIP thread
not tipping enough
something about privilege
Luis suarez

Wishing death upon someone is just as shitcuntish as being racist, IMO.

OK GUYS, FALSE EQUIVALENCY BINGO STARTS HERE, EYES DOWN LOOKING IN FOR A FULL HOUSE

srsly imma start a thread re false equivelancy complaints

morrissey, 1984: "the sorrow of the IRA brighton bombing is that thatcher escaped unscathed."

well ilx isn't gonna blink at that

i got no ish with wishing harm on actual bad people

"I hope Johnny Rogan dies in a motorway pile-up."

"I don't drive."

"I hope Johnny Rogan dies in a hotel fire."

if you'd wished death on Hitler in 1938 wd that have made you as bad as Hitler? not relevant here, just nailing down the logic

Jesus Christ two Eurovision triumphs and no harm ever done on anyone

XP what value does a death wish have in this logic

i think the rascist thing is a decoy, it's not like everyone on here has never had a rascist thought. it's a little too much to take. he has done other stuff that is equally as bad or worse. why this white liberal differentiation?

xp

i dunno i'm just exploring Turrican's maleficic calculus

I was told at work to stop wishing death on other employees and I asked why, had it started working

maybe if it was like a hearty and cordial wishing it wd be ok

I'm certainly usually visibly cheered by the fuckin prospect

right chuffed are ye

good effort, good effort

i dunno i'm just exploring Turrican's maleficic calculus

Tell it like it is, it is sophomoric peasant stupidity and anything above that is too fucking generous.

oi m8

ask xelab

Too embarrassed to even look, feel like dying.

aw :(

it's all <3 on ILX xcept for the usual todgers

Tell it like it is, it is sophomoric peasant stupidity and anything above that is too fucking generous.

― xelab, Tuesday, June 24, 2014 11:18 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The logic is quite simple:

If you wish death on someone, I'll think you're a cunt.
If you're a racist, I'll think you're a cunt.

Since I've established in my mind that xelab is a cunt, I'll happily settle for being a "stupid, sophomoric peasant" in his. No biggie.

you didn't elucidate the Hitler thing tho

i mean you understand the notion that wishing death on someone implies that they may be considered worthy of moral censure whereas racism is immoral top to bottom, right?

"my agitas" !!!

"rascist" is the most puzzling misspelling

like, one of those things is a largely rhetorical device to express the strongest possible disapproval of a person, possibly on ethical grounds, whereas the other is dimwitted attribution of negative qualities to a vast group of unidentified people based on perceived phenotypes?

if correctly diagnosed

a slightly more complex point but i'm addressing the statements as argued

a fixation on an idealized british past which has over time turned into a sort of creepy nationalism.

this is racism, right? how can it not be racism?

true, XP and non xp

bet he blames his Irish blood for the racism

yeh really he's just pining for the days before dammit i was gonna say Henry II but tbh you had Vikings running amok before we got our oar in

that tricky moment when you try to work out who was the original peoples who sprung fully formed from the soil before all the waves of outcomers fetched up

I need da croupier to return and work up an entire parody of my adidas. or at least a verse.

formorians iirc can't recommend the prehistory legends enough tbh

god, the internet makes people so awful. except for morrissey. he was awful before the internet.

xp

i remember bits of that stuff either from learning to decipher Finnegans Wake or from playing Tir Na Nog on the Spectrum, most likely the latter

something bout y'all being Phoenicians or Spaniards or something too