shitcunt?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link
is that some kind of British pastry or something?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
Morrissey is on ILX?
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, June 24, 2014 4:59 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I have a rockabilly haircut
― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, February 7, 2014 11:17 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link
UKIP are a definitely not racist political party that stand on an anti-immigration, anti-EU platform
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link
xelab there's a thread for you btw
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link
I don't think he's some far-right crank some seem eager to make him out to be. The "sub-species" comment seems the most indefensible, everything else seems to have been driven by NME which makes things sort of questionable. I understand reading "Bengali in Platforms" as racist but it's open to interpretation imho (is the narrator being patronizing, or admonishing, etc. it isn't really obvious), it's hardly "One in a Million". At any rate vilifying him only feeds into his persecution complex so keep it up guys
i agree w/ this. morrissey is obv a jerk who's said tons of stupid things, which makes it tempting to put the worst possible spin on everything he says, but i don't think most of this evidence adds up to him being mel gibson. that said, no denying he's gotten nastier and more unpleasant with time: he's pretty much a crank with a fixation on an idealized british past which has over time turned into a sort of creepy nationalism.
and obv it ought to go without saying that you can like the smiths and be appalled by morrissey as a person, just like you don't have to throw out your beatles records because john lennon once told brian epstein he ought to call his autobiography 'queer jew.'
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link
Even if the NME stuff was all lies and slander sponsored by the Beef Council, dude is still a jackass who's has shown an unapologetic fascination with racist iconography and a glib-to-toxic disrespect for any ethnic group that makes his radar outside of a meet-and-greet line. Dude's a hall-of-fame lyricist/singer imo (if long past his prime) but i can't fathom why one would need to quibble on just how much of a racist he is, he's close enough to earn a "fuck that guy."
― da croupier, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link
"We Hate It When Our Friends Become Shitcunts""You're the One For Me, Shitcunt"
― Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link
Not really sure what is going on but always happy to see the indiscriminate fling of a 'shitcunt'
― 龜, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link
but srsly is he on anyone's deathpool
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link
Shitcuntry Gates
― macklin' rosie (crüt), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link
Wishing death upon someone is just as shitcuntish as being racist, IMO.
― ...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
*cough* http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/morrissey-i-nearly-voted-for-ukip-i-like-nigel-farage-a-great-deal-8446651.html *cough*
That interview's the most open he's been about his fucked up politics. Liking Farage is the least of it. Original article:
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― Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
this is what i was wondering yesterday
― Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
would be a good ilx poll
other possible options:
demurring in an RIP threadnot tipping enoughsomething about privilegeLuis suarez
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link
OK GUYS, FALSE EQUIVALENCY BINGO STARTS HERE, EYES DOWN LOOKING IN FOR A FULL HOUSE
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link
srsly imma start a thread re false equivelancy complaints
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link
morrissey, 1984: "the sorrow of the IRA brighton bombing is that thatcher escaped unscathed."
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link
well ilx isn't gonna blink at that
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link
i got no ish with wishing harm on actual bad people
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link
"I hope Johnny Rogan dies in a motorway pile-up."
"I don't drive."
"I hope Johnny Rogan dies in a hotel fire."
― OutdoorFish, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link
if you'd wished death on Hitler in 1938 wd that have made you as bad as Hitler? not relevant here, just nailing down the logic
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:53 (nine years ago) link
Jesus Christ two Eurovision triumphs and no harm ever done on anyone
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:53 (nine years ago) link
XP what value does a death wish have in this logic
i think the rascist thing is a decoy, it's not like everyone on here has never had a rascist thought. it's a little too much to take. he has done other stuff that is equally as bad or worse. why this white liberal differentiation?
― OutdoorFish, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link
xp
i dunno i'm just exploring Turrican's maleficic calculus
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link
I was told at work to stop wishing death on other employees and I asked why, had it started working
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:56 (nine years ago) link
maybe if it was like a hearty and cordial wishing it wd be ok
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:00 (nine years ago) link
I'm certainly usually visibly cheered by the fuckin prospect
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link
right chuffed are ye
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link
good effort, good effort
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link
Tell it like it is, it is sophomoric peasant stupidity and anything above that is too fucking generous.
― xelab, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link
oi m8
ask xelab
― avicii usque ad arse (imago), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link
Too embarrassed to even look, feel like dying.
― xelab, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:23 (nine years ago) link
aw :(
― avicii usque ad arse (imago), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link
it's all <3 on ILX xcept for the usual todgers
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link
― xelab, Tuesday, June 24, 2014 11:18 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The logic is quite simple:
If you wish death on someone, I'll think you're a cunt.If you're a racist, I'll think you're a cunt.
Since I've established in my mind that xelab is a cunt, I'll happily settle for being a "stupid, sophomoric peasant" in his. No biggie.
― ...and the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, axe and SAW! (Turrican), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link
you didn't elucidate the Hitler thing tho
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link
i mean you understand the notion that wishing death on someone implies that they may be considered worthy of moral censure whereas racism is immoral top to bottom, right?
"my agitas" !!!
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link
"rascist" is the most puzzling misspelling
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link
like, one of those things is a largely rhetorical device to express the strongest possible disapproval of a person, possibly on ethical grounds, whereas the other is dimwitted attribution of negative qualities to a vast group of unidentified people based on perceived phenotypes?
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link
if correctly diagnosed
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link
a slightly more complex point but i'm addressing the statements as argued
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:33 (nine years ago) link
a fixation on an idealized british past which has over time turned into a sort of creepy nationalism.
this is racism, right? how can it not be racism?
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:33 (nine years ago) link
true, XP and non xp
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:34 (nine years ago) link
bet he blames his Irish blood for the racism
yeh really he's just pining for the days before dammit i was gonna say Henry II but tbh you had Vikings running amok before we got our oar in
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:36 (nine years ago) link
that tricky moment when you try to work out who was the original peoples who sprung fully formed from the soil before all the waves of outcomers fetched up
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link
I need da croupier to return and work up an entire parody of my adidas. or at least a verse.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:39 (nine years ago) link