Morrissey really seriously ill?

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"Bengali In Platforms" goes back to 1988, so

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link

apparently this all started in 1985

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrissey#Accusations_of_racism

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

He said reggae was vile in the 80's and later tried to dismiss it as a joke as he signed to Attack records, suddenly he was a massive Trojan fan.

xelab, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link

thread title makes me picture morrissey in a tracksuit and fat chains on.

how's life, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

all up in kfc trying to order a boca burger.

how's life, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link

Morrissey, "My Agitas"

da croupier, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link

boy racist, boy racist / we're gonna kill this pretty thing

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link

it's really hard for me to gauge how racist the statement "reggae is vile" was coming from Morrissey in 1985, especially considering how easy it is to loathe any popular genre of music, but I feel content labeling Morrissey a racist based on other things he's said & done

macklin' rosie (crüt), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link

Reminds me it's been almost 20 years since the dude made an album I liked

xpost

da croupier, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link

I don't think he's some far-right crank some seem eager to make him out to be. The "sub-species" comment seems the most indefensible, everything else seems to have been driven by NME which makes things sort of questionable. I understand reading "Bengali in Platforms" as racist but it's open to interpretation imho (is the narrator being patronizing, or admonishing, etc. it isn't really obvious), it's hardly "One in a Million". At any rate vilifying him only feeds into his persecution complex so keep it up guys

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

Morrissey is on ILX?

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

:-)

Creames Fartpoop, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

Morrissey is Momus iirc

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

Isn't there already a Moz Is Racist thread? Can't we keep this to speculation on the severity of his illnesses?

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link

He's Robbie Keane's cousin????

saer, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link

Racism is an illness.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link

I don't think he's some seriously ill crank some seem eager to make him out to be. The "feeling very sick and ill today" comments seems the most indefensible, everything else seems to have been driven by NME which makes things sort of questionable.

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link

I confess that's not the most well-written post I've ever made

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link

"everything else seems to have been driven by NME which makes things sort of questionable"
What? Really?Serious Bullshit! flag post timey.

xelab, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link

Isn't there already a Moz Is Racist thread? Can't we keep this to speculation on the severity of his illnesses?

Fuck off and die you cunt.

xelab, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link

it's okay to enjoy some of his music and still accept that he's really really racist, kids

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link

belax, dude

xp

macklin' rosie (crüt), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link

it's okay to enjoy some of his music and still accept that he's really really racist, kids

― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague)

Of course it is, but because he hasn't made a good album since the Clinton administration it's easy not to enjoy it.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link

haha yeah the cutoff point for me is Vauxhall. although I did enjoy his autobio.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

I do like how questioning NME's journalistic integrity is a FPable offense tho

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

I thought You are the Quarry was pretty good.

Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link

you are the quarry brought me back into the Moz fold but it was also one of those albums wherein the unexpected enjoyment I got somehow didn't make me any more interested in the follow ups. it felt like a decent summing up of his typical themes done in a very good, final way for me.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link

I preferred the 2009 album but boy was his voice starting to go

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link

Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

^^^ shd be like the "Is Abe Vigoda Dead Yet?" of ILX

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link

"STILL RACIST"

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link

Xp re the nme he did say those things tho? I always find "out of context" a weird one unless the context was "i do not believe the following racist shit I'm about to say"

Knob Dicks (wins), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link

I thought You are the Quarry was pretty good.

― Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:08 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

It was pretty empty for a rock album, tbh; as if everything valuable had been excavated

, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link

Xp re the nme he did say those things tho? I always find "out of context" a weird one unless the context was "i do not believe the following racist shit I'm about to say"

― Knob Dicks (wins), Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:12 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark

Yeah it's like arguing the Donald Sterling stuff is 'questionable' because it was reported by TMZ

, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link

I hope he recovers from his aidscancerulcerupsetstomachdepression.

StanM, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link

yeah i felt like William Shirer had an axe to grind but

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link

i for one would like to hear what gary oldman has to say about morrissey

da croupier, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link

"First of the Gang to Die" was probably the last Morrissey song I found listenable.

macklin' rosie (crüt), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link

see, how can he be racist when he was so overcome with affection for his latin-american fanbase that he rewrote "jet song" for them

da croupier, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

lol

macklin' rosie (crüt), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link

the NME stuff just isn't clear-cut imo, certainly not as clear as Donald Sterling (there's no actual audio available for one thing). the "reggae is vile" comment is not explicitly racist, I don't think, although it's certainly not an opinion I share. The immigrants-are-ruining-English-culture thing seems murky too - there were lawsuits, the writer insisted on removing his name from the story, etc. And the NME's clearly had it in for Morrissey for quite awhile, this is one case where I don't think his persecution complex is entirely unwarranted (tbf if I was the NME it would be hard not to resist winding up Morrissey)

xxxp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link

I think the Was/Is Morrissey Racist? thread was how I discovered ilx. I had that one thread bookmarked for ages before I realised that it was just part of a site that discussed other things too. It's a classic. A lot of big names.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link

you xp's make me sick, all this lolling/apologism - go fuck yourselves and listen to nothing but this shitcunt for the rest of your lives, it is all you fucking deserve arseholes.

xelab, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

idk who that is but ok

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link

shitcunt?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link

is that some kind of British pastry or something?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link

Morrissey is on ILX?

― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, June 24, 2014 4:59 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have a rockabilly haircut

― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, February 7, 2014 11:17 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link

UKIP are a definitely not racist political party that stand on an anti-immigration, anti-EU platform

clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

xelab there's a thread for you btw

leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link

doing Sieg Heil salutes at his age can really throw your shoulder out

Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 April 2019 10:27 (five years ago) link

“Due to a medical emergency stemming form an accident incurred while traveling in Europe,
is some real mealy-mouthed language.

☮ (peace, man), Sunday, 14 April 2019 10:43 (five years ago) link

what did Europe do now?

StanM, Sunday, 14 April 2019 10:53 (five years ago) link

Jean-Claude Juncker glassed Mozzer.

Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 April 2019 10:57 (five years ago) link

the seem week yakety yak made a pissed up prick out of himself in Prague, hmm.

calzino, Sunday, 14 April 2019 11:01 (five years ago) link

I think you've cracked it... which is what "Tommy" said to Moz when he slipped on Tommy's puke and fell headfirst into the toilet bowl in that Czech hotel room.

Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 April 2019 11:04 (five years ago) link


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