Morrissey really seriously ill?

As someone who dislikes Strangeways, the vast majority of Morrissey's solo career was already unpalatable to me musically; the indefensible shit he's said on the side is piss icing on the shit cake.

Xp Yeah I know some of his stuff means a lot to some ppl, I wasn't gonna add to x's kool-aid man itt cause it's hardly my concern if ppl are bummed out by a racist singer being unwell be it morrissey or clapton, assertions that he's a misunderstood victim deserve mockery tho

nah he never cops to anything that's the frustrating thing

feel like he was always that way then that dumb lawsuit just made him completely ridiculous about everything and bitter

the indefensible shit he's said

"All The Indefensible Shit You've Said" was a pretty good b-side i thought

“England is a memory now,” the singer remarked, “The gates are flooded and anybody can have access to England and join in.”

just need to get my "titan of intellect" PaulTMA head on to wheedle out the non-racist meaning of a quote like this. Obviously it is very nuanced and all but hidden from the "thick as fuck" types who take this as a typical Mosleyite/UKIP/BNP type statement.

I don't have piss cakes in my bakery but I do have:

http://www.lolhome.com/img_big/shitty-cake.jpg

"All The Indefensible Shit You've Said" was his collaboration wit t.A.T.u IIRC

nah was the killers I'm sure

Was he always racist or was this a mid-life development?

"Bengali In Platforms" goes back to 1988, so

apparently this all started in 1985

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrissey#Accusations_of_racism

He said reggae was vile in the 80's and later tried to dismiss it as a joke as he signed to Attack records, suddenly he was a massive Trojan fan.

thread title makes me picture morrissey in a tracksuit and fat chains on.

all up in kfc trying to order a boca burger.

Morrissey, "My Agitas"

boy racist, boy racist / we're gonna kill this pretty thing

it's really hard for me to gauge how racist the statement "reggae is vile" was coming from Morrissey in 1985, especially considering how easy it is to loathe any popular genre of music, but I feel content labeling Morrissey a racist based on other things he's said & done

Reminds me it's been almost 20 years since the dude made an album I liked

xpost

I don't think he's some far-right crank some seem eager to make him out to be. The "sub-species" comment seems the most indefensible, everything else seems to have been driven by NME which makes things sort of questionable. I understand reading "Bengali in Platforms" as racist but it's open to interpretation imho (is the narrator being patronizing, or admonishing, etc. it isn't really obvious), it's hardly "One in a Million". At any rate vilifying him only feeds into his persecution complex so keep it up guys

Morrissey is on ILX?

:-)

Morrissey is Momus iirc

Isn't there already a Moz Is Racist thread? Can't we keep this to speculation on the severity of his illnesses?

He's Robbie Keane's cousin????

Racism is an illness.

I don't think he's some seriously ill crank some seem eager to make him out to be. The "feeling very sick and ill today" comments seems the most indefensible, everything else seems to have been driven by NME which makes things sort of questionable.

I confess that's not the most well-written post I've ever made

"everything else seems to have been driven by NME which makes things sort of questionable"
What? Really?Serious Bullshit! flag post timey.

Isn't there already a Moz Is Racist thread? Can't we keep this to speculation on the severity of his illnesses?

Fuck off and die you cunt.

it's okay to enjoy some of his music and still accept that he's really really racist, kids

belax, dude

xp

it's okay to enjoy some of his music and still accept that he's really really racist, kids

― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague)

Of course it is, but because he hasn't made a good album since the Clinton administration it's easy not to enjoy it.

haha yeah the cutoff point for me is Vauxhall. although I did enjoy his autobio.

I do like how questioning NME's journalistic integrity is a FPable offense tho

xp

I thought You are the Quarry was pretty good.

Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

you are the quarry brought me back into the Moz fold but it was also one of those albums wherein the unexpected enjoyment I got somehow didn't make me any more interested in the follow ups. it felt like a decent summing up of his typical themes done in a very good, final way for me.

I preferred the 2009 album but boy was his voice starting to go

Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

^^^ shd be like the "Is Abe Vigoda Dead Yet?" of ILX

"STILL RACIST"

Xp re the nme he did say those things tho? I always find "out of context" a weird one unless the context was "i do not believe the following racist shit I'm about to say"

I thought You are the Quarry was pretty good.

― Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:08 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

It was pretty empty for a rock album, tbh; as if everything valuable had been excavated

Xp re the nme he did say those things tho? I always find "out of context" a weird one unless the context was "i do not believe the following racist shit I'm about to say"

― Knob Dicks (wins), Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:12 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark

Yeah it's like arguing the Donald Sterling stuff is 'questionable' because it was reported by TMZ

I hope he recovers from his aidscancerulcerupsetstomachdepression.

yeah i felt like William Shirer had an axe to grind but

i for one would like to hear what gary oldman has to say about morrissey

"First of the Gang to Die" was probably the last Morrissey song I found listenable.

see, how can he be racist when he was so overcome with affection for his latin-american fanbase that he rewrote "jet song" for them

lol

the NME stuff just isn't clear-cut imo, certainly not as clear as Donald Sterling (there's no actual audio available for one thing). the "reggae is vile" comment is not explicitly racist, I don't think, although it's certainly not an opinion I share. The immigrants-are-ruining-English-culture thing seems murky too - there were lawsuits, the writer insisted on removing his name from the story, etc. And the NME's clearly had it in for Morrissey for quite awhile, this is one case where I don't think his persecution complex is entirely unwarranted (tbf if I was the NME it would be hard not to resist winding up Morrissey)

xxxp

Mozz Takes Aging Badly to Next Level

The Death Of A Racist Chancer
Heaven Is Miserable Now
etc

Petty Mozz Makes Grave

He Can Feel The Soil Falling Over His Head.

He wished to be buried at seasick

Mozz Takes Aging Badly to Next Level

― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, February 5, 2016 3:06 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is amazing.

i posted speedway on facebook today because it is a beautiful song but it didn't get any likes. feel worried that my fb friends think i am endorsing racism

like, not that worried, but a little worried

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/6a/73/c7/6a73c73d5db0f35cc5c45b1d3a20335f.jpg

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2019/04/13/morrissey-medical-emergency-accident-canada-concerts-postoned/?fbclid=IwAR0YmKpEcg3maQgXfsIwhAXobuJR7mjYWXY3cz8_SzflhuXKJVRgS8ih0TQ

doing Sieg Heil salutes at his age can really throw your shoulder out

“Due to a medical emergency stemming form an accident incurred while traveling in Europe,

what did Europe do now?

Jean-Claude Juncker glassed Mozzer.

the seem week yakety yak made a pissed up prick out of himself in Prague, hmm.

I think you've cracked it... which is what "Tommy" said to Moz when he slipped on Tommy's puke and fell headfirst into the toilet bowl in that Czech hotel room.