Yeah that was meant as morrissey-style hyperbole without the genuine bigotry that makes him so lovable, obv there are worse ppl in the world but I'm still gonna say ugh those guys are the worst
― Knob Dicks (wins), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link
i still like himi dunnobut i get why ppl hate himhis personality has been so terrible for decadesi like the songs though, or the old onesbut yeah a lot of the stuff he's done in recent years is indefensible
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link
As someone who dislikes Strangeways, the vast majority of Morrissey's solo career was already unpalatable to me musically; the indefensible shit he's said on the side is piss icing on the shit cake.
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
Xp Yeah I know some of his stuff means a lot to some ppl, I wasn't gonna add to x's kool-aid man itt cause it's hardly my concern if ppl are bummed out by a racist singer being unwell be it morrissey or clapton, assertions that he's a misunderstood victim deserve mockery tho
― Knob Dicks (wins), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
nah he never cops to anything that's the frustrating thing
feel like he was always that way then that dumb lawsuit just made him completely ridiculous about everything and bitter
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
the indefensible shit he's said
"All The Indefensible Shit You've Said" was a pretty good b-side i thought
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
“England is a memory now,” the singer remarked, “The gates are flooded and anybody can have access to England and join in.”
just need to get my "titan of intellect" PaulTMA head on to wheedle out the non-racist meaning of a quote like this. Obviously it is very nuanced and all but hidden from the "thick as fuck" types who take this as a typical Mosleyite/UKIP/BNP type statement.
― xelab, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link
I don't have piss cakes in my bakery but I do have:
http://www.lolhome.com/img_big/shitty-cake.jpg
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
"All The Indefensible Shit You've Said" was his collaboration wit t.A.T.u IIRC
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link
nah was the killers I'm sure
― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
Was he always racist or was this a mid-life development?
― Treeship, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link
"Bengali In Platforms" goes back to 1988, so
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
apparently this all started in 1985
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrissey#Accusations_of_racism
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link
He said reggae was vile in the 80's and later tried to dismiss it as a joke as he signed to Attack records, suddenly he was a massive Trojan fan.
― xelab, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link
thread title makes me picture morrissey in a tracksuit and fat chains on.
― how's life, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link
all up in kfc trying to order a boca burger.
Morrissey, "My Agitas"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link
boy racist, boy racist / we're gonna kill this pretty thing
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link
it's really hard for me to gauge how racist the statement "reggae is vile" was coming from Morrissey in 1985, especially considering how easy it is to loathe any popular genre of music, but I feel content labeling Morrissey a racist based on other things he's said & done
― macklin' rosie (crüt), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link
Reminds me it's been almost 20 years since the dude made an album I liked
xpost
― da croupier, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
I don't think he's some far-right crank some seem eager to make him out to be. The "sub-species" comment seems the most indefensible, everything else seems to have been driven by NME which makes things sort of questionable. I understand reading "Bengali in Platforms" as racist but it's open to interpretation imho (is the narrator being patronizing, or admonishing, etc. it isn't really obvious), it's hardly "One in a Million". At any rate vilifying him only feeds into his persecution complex so keep it up guys
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
Morrissey is on ILX?
― Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
:-)
― Creames Fartpoop, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link
Morrissey is Momus iirc
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link
Isn't there already a Moz Is Racist thread? Can't we keep this to speculation on the severity of his illnesses?
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link
He's Robbie Keane's cousin????
― saer, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link
Racism is an illness.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link
I don't think he's some seriously ill crank some seem eager to make him out to be. The "feeling very sick and ill today" comments seems the most indefensible, everything else seems to have been driven by NME which makes things sort of questionable.
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
I confess that's not the most well-written post I've ever made
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link
"everything else seems to have been driven by NME which makes things sort of questionable"What? Really?Serious Bullshit! flag post timey.
― xelab, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
Fuck off and die you cunt.
it's okay to enjoy some of his music and still accept that he's really really racist, kids
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:05 (nine years ago) link
belax, dude
xp
― macklin' rosie (crüt), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague)
Of course it is, but because he hasn't made a good album since the Clinton administration it's easy not to enjoy it.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:06 (nine years ago) link
haha yeah the cutoff point for me is Vauxhall. although I did enjoy his autobio.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link
I do like how questioning NME's journalistic integrity is a FPable offense tho
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link
I thought You are the Quarry was pretty good.
― Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link
Was/Is Morrissey Racist?
― Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link
you are the quarry brought me back into the Moz fold but it was also one of those albums wherein the unexpected enjoyment I got somehow didn't make me any more interested in the follow ups. it felt like a decent summing up of his typical themes done in a very good, final way for me.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link
I preferred the 2009 album but boy was his voice starting to go
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link
^^^ shd be like the "Is Abe Vigoda Dead Yet?" of ILX
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
"STILL RACIST"
Xp re the nme he did say those things tho? I always find "out of context" a weird one unless the context was "i do not believe the following racist shit I'm about to say"
― Knob Dicks (wins), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
― Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:08 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
It was pretty empty for a rock album, tbh; as if everything valuable had been excavated
― 龜, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
― Knob Dicks (wins), Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:12 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark
Yeah it's like arguing the Donald Sterling stuff is 'questionable' because it was reported by TMZ
― 龜, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
I hope he recovers from his aidscancerulcerupsetstomachdepression.
― StanM, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link
yeah i felt like William Shirer had an axe to grind but
― clockpuncher (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link
i for one would like to hear what gary oldman has to say about morrissey
― da croupier, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link
"First of the Gang to Die" was probably the last Morrissey song I found listenable.
― macklin' rosie (crüt), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
see, how can he be racist when he was so overcome with affection for his latin-american fanbase that he rewrote "jet song" for them
― da croupier, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link
Meatus Murdered
― napster p2ppies (wins), Friday, 5 February 2016 11:03 (eight years ago) link
World Mourns 'You're The One for Me, Fatty' Hitmaker
― Butt here is always time for the John Mayer Trio or Sting. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 February 2016 11:34 (eight years ago) link
Mozz Takes Aging Badly to Next Level
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 5 February 2016 15:06 (eight years ago) link
The Death Of A Racist ChancerHeaven Is Miserable Now etc
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 5 February 2016 15:16 (eight years ago) link
Petty Mozz Makes Grave
― DavidLeeRoth, Friday, 5 February 2016 15:18 (eight years ago) link
He Can Feel The Soil Falling Over His Head.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 5 February 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link
He wished to be buried at seasick
― Mark G, Friday, 5 February 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link
Mozz Takes Aging Badly to Next Level― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, February 5, 2016 3:06 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, February 5, 2016 3:06 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is amazing.
― pastoral fantasy (jed_), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 00:36 (eight years ago) link
i posted speedway on facebook today because it is a beautiful song but it didn't get any likes. feel worried that my fb friends think i am endorsing racism
― Agent Zero (Treeship), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 01:02 (eight years ago) link
like, not that worried, but a little worried
― Agent Zero (Treeship), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 01:04 (eight years ago) link
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/6a/73/c7/6a73c73d5db0f35cc5c45b1d3a20335f.jpg
― Soon Kenny Loggins will look like this (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 01:08 (eight years ago) link
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2019/04/13/morrissey-medical-emergency-accident-canada-concerts-postoned/?fbclid=IwAR0YmKpEcg3maQgXfsIwhAXobuJR7mjYWXY3cz8_SzflhuXKJVRgS8ih0TQ
― Golden Clouds, Sunday, 14 April 2019 10:25 (four years ago) link
doing Sieg Heil salutes at his age can really throw your shoulder out
― Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 April 2019 10:27 (four years ago) link
“Due to a medical emergency stemming form an accident incurred while traveling in Europe,
― ☮ (peace, man), Sunday, 14 April 2019 10:43 (four years ago) link
what did Europe do now?
― StanM, Sunday, 14 April 2019 10:53 (four years ago) link
Jean-Claude Juncker glassed Mozzer.
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 April 2019 10:57 (four years ago) link
the seem week yakety yak made a pissed up prick out of himself in Prague, hmm.
― calzino, Sunday, 14 April 2019 11:01 (four years ago) link
I think you've cracked it... which is what "Tommy" said to Moz when he slipped on Tommy's puke and fell headfirst into the toilet bowl in that Czech hotel room.
― Do you like 70s hard rock with a guitar hero? (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 April 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link